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ACK COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON THIS JANUARY 15TH, 2025.[Board of Supervisors on January 15, 2025.]
AND IF YOU HAVE A CELL PHONE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, PLEASE EITHER TURN IT OFF OR TURN IT TO, UH, SILENT FOR THE DURATION OF THIS, UH, OF THE MEETING, PLEASE.UH, IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU, IF YOU AND YOU'RE ABLE, PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND OUR PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.
DEAR GOD BLESS US MEETING AND ALLOW US TO DO OUR WORK THROUGH YOUR WILL.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE LIE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
WHO DID I SEND THE CALL TO? WE HAVE ONE SUPERVISOR THAT, UH, WILL BE WITH US REMOTELY.
SO, UH, SUPERVISOR TAR NOTIFIED, UH, NOTIFIED ME EARLY, UH, TODAY THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS EVENING'S MEETING REMOTELY BECAUSE HE IS STILL RECOVERING FROM SOME SURGERY.
OUR, OUR ADOPTED REMOTE, UH, PARTICIPATION POLICY REQUIRES THAT ALL REQUESTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS TO REMOTELY PARTICIPATE IN A PUBLIC MEETING MUST BE RECEIVED BY THE CHAIR AND RATING ON OR BEFORE THE DAY OF THE MEETING AND SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY THIS BOARD.
I CAN ATTEST THAT THE REQUEST TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY WAS RECEIVED BY ME IN WRITING ON 1 13 20 25.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, UH, SUPERVISOR TAR IS CURRENTLY CONNECTED VIA ZOOM, UH, TO THIS MEETING.
SUPERVISOR TAR, CAN YOU HEAR ME? E YES, SIR.
WOULD YOU STATE THE REASON YOU WISH TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY AND THE EXACT LOCATION FROM WHICH YOU ARE PARTICIPATING? YES, I AM, UH, AT 7 0 7 9 WAYNE ROAD ON SHIG, VIRGINIA.
AND I AM, UH, RECOVERING FROM SURGERY I HAD A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, SINCE WE HAVE A QUORUM PHYSICALLY ASSEMBLED HERE TONIGHT.
UH, WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ALLOW SUPERVISOR TAR TO REMOTELY PARTICIPATE IN TONIGHT'S MEETING IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR BOARD ADOPTED, UH, REMOTE PAT PARTICIPATION POLICY? I MOVE THAT WE, UH, ALLOW, UH, SUPERVISOR TAR TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS BOARD MEETING.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTIONS, UH, PROPERLY SECONDED EVERYBODY, UH, FAR.
UH, NEXT IS, UH, 1.4 ADOPTION OF OUR AGENDA.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, UH, ALL FAR? AYE.
ALL OPPOSED A PUBLIC COMMENT? AND I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE SOMEONE THAT HAS SIGNED UP.
DO I HAVE THE THING? MS. PROCTOR? THANK YOU.
THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT RULES ARE AS FOLLOWS.
PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE LIMITED TO ITEMS ON THE CURRENT MEETING'S AGENDA, BUT SHALL NOT ADDRESS MATTERS ON THE PUBLIC HEARING CALENDAR FOR THE DAY.
NO INDIVIDUAL SPEAKER SHALL BE PERMITTED TO ADDRESS THE BOARD FOR MORE THAN FOUR MINUTES.
THE CHAIR SHALL ALLOCATE THE TIME AMONG THE SPEAKERS IN AN EQUITABLE MANNER.
INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE PREVIOUSLY SPOKEN ON A SUBJECT AT A PUBLIC HEARING SHALL NOT BE ALLOWED TO READDRESS THE BOARD ON THE SAME SUBJECT DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
SPECIFIC QUESTIONS SHOULD BE RESOLVED PRIOR TO THE MEETING BY CONTACTING A BOARD MEMBER OR THE APPROPRIATE STAFF MEMBER.
ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION FOR A PUBLIC MEETING MUST PRESENT THE PRESENTATION 24 HOURS IN ADVANCE FOR REVIEW BY STAFF FOR APPROPRIATENESS.
QUESTIONS SHALL BE DIRECTED TO THE CHAIR WHO WILL AT HIS DISCRETION SOLICIT THE RESPONSE FROM THE APPROPRIATE PERSON.
PERSONS ADDRESSING THE BOARD SHALL NOT USE INAPPROPRIATE OR THREATENING LANGUAGE OR VERBALLY ATTACK ANY BOARD MEMBER OR ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.
THE CHAIR SHALL DIRECT ANY PERSON WHOSE BEHAVIOR IS VIOLENT OR DISRUPTIVE TO LEAVE THE MEETING ROOM.
THE CHAIR HAS THE RIGHT AND DUTY TO MAINTAIN PROPER ORDER IN ACCORDANCE WITH THESE RULES.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT I'VE DONE WITH IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO IT, SO I APOLOGIZE.
I SURE IN THE HELL DIDN'T PUT IT THERE.
MR. FATE, WOULD YOU, UH, GIVE YOUR FULL NAME AND ADDRESS FOR OUR, FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? GOOD EVENING.
CHAIRMAN PHILLIPS AND ENTIRE BOARD APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
UH, I LIVE AT 15 RICHARDSON AVENUE IN W CREEK.
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AS THE CHIEF OF W CREEK VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY.UM, AND THIS MAY OR MAY NOT FIT IN TONIGHT'S AGENDA, SO STOP ME IF I'M SPEAKING OUT OF THE CORRECT MEETING.
UH, WITH THE UPCOMING BUDGET WORK AHEAD OF YOU ALL.
I WANTED TO SHED A LITTLE LIGHT ON SOME CONCERNS FROM OUR VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY, AND I ASSUME SHARED BY MANY OTHER CON COMPANIES WITHIN THE COUNTY.
ON FEBRUARY 6TH, 2023, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR PRESENTED A BUDGET PROPOSAL THAT HAD THE WORD INCREASE 79 TIMES.
IN THAT PRESENTATION ON FEBRUARY 5TH, 2024, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AGAIN PRESENTED A BUDGET PROPOSAL TO YOU ALL THAT HAD THE SAME WORD INCREASE 139 TIMES IN THAT DOCUMENT.
IN THAT PRESENTATION, UNFORTUNATELY, THE WORDS VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY WERE IN NEITHER DOCUMENT NOT ONCE.
UM, EVERY ONE OF THE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES IN THE COUNTY ARE EXPERIENCING THE SAME, SAME EXACT INCREASES THAT THE COUNTY IS.
HEATING OIL, PROPANE GAS, DIESEL INSURANCE, INSURANCE IS ASTRONOMICAL.
AS YOU KNOW, THE MATERIALS, EQUIPMENT, I CAN GO ON AND ON.
UM, THE COST OF A FIRE TRUCK'S RUNNING BETWEEN 600,000 AND A MILLION DOLLARS RIGHT NOW.
I THINK FATIGUE JUST ORDERED A NEW LADDER TRUCK AT 2 MILLION, I THINK IS WHAT IT WAS.
UM, AMBULANCES ARE RUNNING BETWEEN THREE AND $400,000 AN AIR PACK, $10,000.
THE CLOTHES WE WEAR PANTS AND, AND JACKET ARE 3,500 BUCKS A PAIR ANYWAY.
UM, I'VE HEARD IT SAID RECENTLY THAT THIS BODY WOULD NEED TO SUPPORT OUR LOCAL FIRST RESPONDERS.
AND SADLY, IT SEEMS IT TAKES A NATIONAL TRAGEDY FOR EVERYBODY AND TO, TO RECOGNIZE THAT, OR MOST FOLKS TO AT LEAST NOTICE IT.
I STRONGLY ASK YOU TO CONSIDER HOW IMPORTANT THE VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS ARE TO THIS COUNTY AS MUCH AS YOU DO THE ENDLESS REQUEST FROM DPS FOR FUNDING INCREASES.
I HAVE ANOTHER TOPIC IF I'M ALLOWED TO SPEAK ABOUT IT.
UM, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, THE BOARD OPTED A TAX RELIEF FOR VOLUNTEERS.
VERY MUCH APPRECIATED, EXTREMELY APPRECIATED.
I HAVE 15, I THINK 15 MEMBERS THIS YEAR THAT QUALIFY FOR IT.
IT'S SUBJECTIVE, UNFORTUNATELY.
UM, I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
THE, THE WAY IT'S WORDED IS REGULARLY RESPONDS ON CALLS.
SO WE RAN A HUNDRED CALLS LAST YEAR, WATCH PRETTY GOOD.
IF YOU DIDN'T RUN SPAWN ON 10% OR MORE, YOU DIDN'T QUALIFY.
SO IF THEIR MEMBERS WERE HELD TO THE SAME STANDARD AS MY MEMBERS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO RUN 40 CALLS.
IF YOU SEE MY MATH, I'M THINKING AHEAD OF MYSELF.
SO IT'S, IT'S NOT FAIR TO OTHER COMPANIES UP AND DOWN THE SHORE WHERE IT'S SO SUBJECTIVE.
I DON'T HAVE THE SOLUTION TO IT.
BUT ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS ALSO TAKEN OUT OF THE, UH, STATE CODE, UH, FOR THE ORDINANCE WAS, UM, HOW IT'S WRITTEN.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE A COUPLE MEMBERS THAT DON'T QUALIFY FOR THE TAX RELIEF, EVEN THOUGH THE STATE CODE ALLOWS IT.
UM, IT SAYS A MEMBER OF A VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY WHO REGULARLY RESPONDS ON CALLS OR REGULARLY PERFORMS OTHER DUTIES FOR THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES OR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AND THAT STATEMENT WAS TAKEN OUT OF THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU ALL ADOPTED.
AND I'VE GOT SEVERAL FOLKS THAT DO MORE WORK THAN SOME OF MY RESPONDERS, BUT I CAN'T GIVE THEM THE, THE BENEFIT OF THE TAX RELIEF BECAUSE THAT STATEMENT WAS TAKEN OUTTA THE ORDINANCE.
I'D LIKE THE BOARD TO RECONSIDER THAT SOMEWHERE IN THE FUTURE.
AND LASTLY, I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH A, A THOUGHT TO PONDER THE NEXT TIME YOU WANT TO DAYDREAM.
HAVE YOU EVER WONDERED WHY VOLUNTEERS FUNDRAISE HAVE EVER SAT BACK AND WONDERED WHY FIRE COMPANIES DO FUNDRAISERS? APPRECIATE YOUR TIME,
NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES MOVE.
SECOND, WE HAVE A, A MOTION PROPERLY SECONDED.
UM, AND NEXT WE HAVE SUPERVISOR CROCKETT.
WOULD YOU, UH, UHOH, WOULD YOU FOLLOW ME TO UHOH CENTER STAGE? PLEASE? YOU'RE IN TROUBLE.
SO GOOD TO SEE YOU, SWEETHEART.
SO, ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE BOARD AND MYSELF, OF COURSE, WE'D LIKE TO, UH, GIVE YOU A T OF OUR APPRECIATION FOR YOUR, UH, YOUR, UH, YOUR DEDICATED SERVICE AS OUR, UH, AS OUR CHAIRMAN, 2024.
AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, AS WE'VE TALKED BEFORE,
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UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO APPRECIATE WE APPRECIATED YOUR TIMELY MANNER IN WHICH YOU, UH, IS WHAT YOU RAN MEETINGS.AND I HOPE THAT THE SITTING CHAIR THIS YEAR IS TAKEN SOME GOOD NOTES.
REMIND OKAY ABOUT THAT? ARE YOU SURE? YEAH.
UH, NEXT ITEM IS FIVE ONE APPROVAL OF THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA.
NO, YEAH, YOU DID THE MINUTES.
UH, PROPERLY SECONDED, UM, TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
UH, NEXT WOULD BE WE GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO APPOINTMENTS.
UH, WE DO HAVE, UM, THE FIRST IS A ACK COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, BOB HICKMAN DOES NO, UH, DOES NOT WISH TO BE REA APPOINTED.
UM, THIS IN, UH, UH, LECTURE AND DISTRICT THREE, UH, SUPERVISOR JOHNSON, DO YOU HAVE ANYBODY OR DO YOU WANT TABLE THAT FOR, I'M GONNA TABLE THAT FOR THE NEXT MEETING, PLEASE.
UH, THE NEXT, UH, THERE'S ELECTION DISTANCE FIVE.
UM, PETE ONLY NO LONGER WANTS TO BE, UH, BE ON.
HE WANTS TO BE, DID NOT BE, WANT TO BE REAPPOINTED.
BUT WE DO HAVE A SHEILA M CONNOR, UM, WANTS TO, WOULD LIKE TO BE NOMINATED TO REPLACE, UH, PETE ONLY, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ELECT SHEILA M CONNOR, WHY DON'T YOU REPLACE PETE ONLY SECOND.
WE HAVE A NOMINATION AND A SECOND.
UM, UM, MIKE, UH, THE ONE FOR THE COMMUNITY SERVICE BOARD, IS THAT AT LARGE? UH, JANET TURNER IS IN MY DISTRICT, BUT, UM, IS, IS THAT AT LARGE OR IS THAT A, UH, IS THAT ACTUALLY A DISTRICT? THE EASTERN SHORE COMMUNITY SERVICE BOARD.
SO IF, IF NO ONE HAS A NOMINATION, WE'LL TABLE THAT UNTIL, UH, UNTIL NEXT MONTH AS WELL.
UM, MACK, UH, MACK NORTHAMPTON COMMUNITY, UH, CRIMINAL JUSTICE BOARD.
WHAT DID AMY, SO SAY AGAIN? DO WE DO HER? I DID.
WHAT IS THAT ONE? AMY SHOCKLEY VEST.
SHE'S UNDER THE COMMUNITY SERVICES BOARD.
OH, SHE COMMUNITY SERVICE BOARD.
UM, THE, UH, WE HAVE, UM, AMY SHOCKLY.
NO ONE DOES NOT WANNA BE REAPPOINTED.
WE DO HAVE A, JOEY WALTER WISHES TO BE APPOINTED AS THE ADULT EDUCATOR, UM, ON THE, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, CRIMINAL JUSTICE BOARD.
DO I HAVE ANY NOMINATION? SO MOVED.
SECOND, WE HAVE A NOMINATION FOR JOEY WALTER, UH, TO, UH, REPLACE AMY, UH, SHOCKLEY ON THE, UH, IAC NORTHAMPTON, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, CRIMINAL JUSTICE BOARD.
ALL OPPOSED? AND THAT MOTION CARRIES.
WE DO NOT HAVE, WE'LL GO TO NEW BUSINESS.
UH, 12 ONE, CONSIDER MOU BETWEEN ACK, NORTH HAMPTON COUNTY, RELATING TO THE AKIMA, UH, COUNTY PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, RECRUIT ACADEMY.
MIKE MASON, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
UH, AGENDA ITEM 12.1 IS ABOUT, UH, UH, MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN ACK AND NORTHAMPTON COUNTY RELATING TO THE AKIMA COUNTY PUBLIC SAFETY RECRUITMENT ACADEMY.
UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY RECRUIT ACADEMY HAS HISTORICALLY ALLOWED PERSONNEL FROM NORTHAMPTON COUNTY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE TRAINING, UH, TRAINING CLASSES THAT IT PROVIDES.
BUT THERE'S NO WRITTEN AGREEMENT BETWEEN ACK AND NORTHAMPTON THAT ENSURES AKIMA COUNTY TAXPAYERS ARE NOT SUBSIDIZING THE TRAINING COST OF NORTHAMPTON EMPLOYEES.
SO, AN MOU HAS BEEN DEVELOPED FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION AND WAS ATTACHED TO YOUR AGENDA.
IT PERMITS THE ENROLLMENT NORTH HAMPTON COUNTY PUBLIC SAFETY EMPLOYEES INTO AX EMS TRAINING COURSES IN EXCHANGE FOR TUITION PAID IN ADVANCE, OR AN EQUIVALENT COMPENSATION, UH, TO AKIMA COUNTY.
THE EQUIVALENT COMPENSATION CAN BE IN THE FORM OF IN KIND SERVICES TO BE PROVIDED BY NORTHAMPTON STAFF AS LONG AS THESE SERVICES ARE SUFFICIENT TO COVER THE VALUE OF SERVICES THOSE, UH, EMPLOYEES ARE RECEIVING.
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IN KIND SERVICES THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED IN THE PAST, AND THAT THIS MOU ALLOWS FOR IS A FURNISHING OF QUALIFIED RECRUIT ACADEMY INSTRUCTORS TO SUBSIDIZE THE TRAINING PROVIDED BY MACK STAFF.SO STAFF ASKS, UM, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ON, ON THAT DRAFT, MOU.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A, UH, SECOND TO APPROVE THE, UH, DRAFT MOU AS PRESENTED BY STAFF.
AND THAT, THAT MOTION CARRIES.
12.2, CONSIDER REFUND OF EXCESS PROCEEDS FROM A PUBLIC TAX SALE THAT OCCURRED DECEMBER OF 2019.
SO ATTACHED TO YOUR AGENDA WAS SORT OF A CHRONOLOGY OF EVENTS, UM, THAT OCCURRED SURROUNDING THIS, THIS ITEM.
I, I'VE NEVER HAD A A SITUATION COME UP LIKE THIS IN ALL THE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN, UH, AFFILIATED WITH THE COUNTY, BUT I'M JUST GONNA GO THROUGH THE HIGHLIGHT THAT SORT OF THE KEY DATES IN THIS ONE.
SO ON ON NOVEMBER 20TH, 2019, REAL PROPERTY OWNED BY MR. RANCH WAS SOLD AT A PUBLIC AUCTION DUE TO NON-PAYMENT DELINQUENT OF AKIMA COUNTY REAL ESTATE TAXES FOR 2012 THROUGH 2019.
AND THEN ON DECEMBER 30TH, 2019, THE COURT ORDERED THE SURPLUS OF PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE, UM, BE DEPOSITED WITH THE KIRK CIRCUIT CLERK OF, UH, THE CIRCUIT CLERK, EXCUSE ME, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CODE OF VIRGINIA SECTION 58.1 39 67.
AND SO FROM THAT FUNDS, AN AMOUNT OF $3,137 WERE RECEIVED BY THE CLERK.
VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 58.1 3 9 67 STATES THAT IF NO CLAIM IS MADE ON SURPLUS PROCEEDS FROM A DELINQUENT TAX SALE WITHIN TWO YEARS AFTER THE DATE, A CONFIRMATION OF THE SALE BY THE COURT, THEN SUCH MONEY SHALL BE PAID TO THE CLERK OF THE COURT OF THE COUNTY.
THIS IS GOING FORWARD TWO YEARS ON MAY 10TH, 2022 BECAUSE NO CLAIM WAS MADE FOR THAT SURPLUS BY THE PREVIOUS PROPERTY OWNER.
UH, PURSUANT TO THAT CODE SECTION, UH, AN AMOUNT OF 28,000 OR $2,823 85 CENTS WAS REMITTED TO THE TREASURER OF MACK COUNTY.
ALL SURPLUS FUNDS RECEIVED FROM THE SALE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WERE APPROPRIATE BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN FISCAL YEAR 2023.
ON DECEMBER 17TH, 2024, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR RECEIVED A LETTER FROM MR. RANCH REQUESTING THE MONEY BE RETURNED TO HIM.
AND SO, UH, CODE SECTION, UH, 58.1 3 9 67 SAYS, AND, AND THIS IS VERBATIM UPON REQUEST OF THE FORMER OWNER, HIS HEIRS OR ASSIGNS OR UNKNOWN BENEFICIARY OF ANY REAL ESTATE SOLD UNDER THIS ARTICLE.
AND AFTER A SHOWING OF A PRIOR ENTITLEMENT THERETO, THE GOVERNING BODY OF ANDY COUNTY OR CITY WHICH HAS RECEIVED SUCH SURPLUS FUNDS MAY IN ITS DISCRETION GRANT RELIEF BY ORDINANCE.
SO IF, IF YOU DECIDED YOU WANTED TO DO THIS, WE WOULD HAVE TO COME FORWARD WITH, WITH AN ORDINANCE AND THERE WOULD BE A PUBLIC HEARING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, UM, TO SUCH FORMAL OWNER, OWNER ERROR OR ASSIGN OR UNKNOWN BENEFICIARY AND PAY OVER SUCH AMOUNT AS THE GOVERNING BODY MAY DEEM APPROPRIATE TO SUCH FORMER OWNER HEIR, ASSIGN OR UNKNOWN BENEFICIARY.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDS A BOARD DENY THIS REQUEST.
AND, AND, AND I DON'T WANT ANYONE UP THERE TO, TO THINK THAT I'M NOT SYMPATHETIC TO THIS ISSUE, BUT A, A DECISION BY THE BOARD TO APPROVE THE RETURN OF EXCESS FUNDS AFTER THAT TWO YEAR MANDATORY HOLDING PERIOD HAS EXPIRED, SETS A PRECEDENT FOR ANY FORMER OWNER HEIR OR UNKNOWN BENEFICIARY BENEFICIARY TO COME FORWARD AT ANY TIME AND REQUEST SIMILAR TREATMENT.
AND SO THIS BY DEFAULT CREATES A, A LARGE FINANCIAL LIABILITY FOR THE COUNTY FOR ALL THOSE EXCESS FUNDS IT HAS RECEIVED.
THE COUNTY IS CON CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS, THEIR AGENTS AND THE CIRCUIT COURT HAVE FILED THE REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH IN THE RELEVANT CODE SECTION.
HAD MR. RANCE COME FORWARD DURING THE TWO YEAR HOLDING PERIOD, WHICH EXPIRED IN 2021, EXCESS FUNDS WOULD'VE BEEN RETURNED TO HIM AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.
AND I CER CERTAINLY WISH HE HAD.
UH, IT HAS BEEN FIVE YEARS SINCE THE TAX SALE TOOK PLACE AND THREE YEARS SINCE THE TWO YEAR HOLDING PERIOD EXPIRED.
SO AGAIN, YOU, YOU HAVE A REQUEST IN FRONT OF YOU.
I'VE TRIED TO SORT OF SUMMARIZE SOME OF THE KEY DATES IN THE, IN THE RELEVANT CODE SECTION THAT APPLIES IN THESE CASES.
AND, UH, THE DECISION OF, OF COURSE IS, IS YOURS ANY DISCUSSION, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES.
WAS THERE ANY EX EXPLANATION GIVEN WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN AFTER ALL THAT TIME? BUT DID HE GIVE ANY EXPLANATION? IS IT THE SAME PERSON I I I WHO OWNED THE PROPERTY? YES.
I'M JUST CURIOUS, WAS THERE ANY EXPLANATION GIVEN NO, I
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HAVE NOT TALKED DIRECTLY, BUT MR. RI MEAN, BASICALLY MOST OF THE DISCUSSION WERE EITHER WITH, UM, WITH THE, WITH THE COUNTY TREASURER, THE, THE LETTER IN YOUR BOARD DOCS.YEAH, I KNOW THE LETTER, BUT I'M JUST SAYING ANYBODY VERBALLY TALKED TO ME,
I LOOK AT IT AS WHAT IT, THE RISK IT WOULD POSE TO THE COUNTY AND TO FUTURE BOARDS IF WE DID THIS.
WE CAN'T DO THIS AS A ONE OFF.
IF WE DO IT, IT HAS TO BE OPEN FOR EVERYBODY ELSE, AND WE HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THIS.
AND THIS COULD PUT THE COUNTY AND TREMENDOUS LIABILITY IN THE FUTURE.
SO I MOVE THAT WE DENY THE REQUEST.
COULD I GET WE HAVE A MOTION SECONDED.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION? WELL, I HAD ONE QUESTION.
IS NOTICE GIVEN WHEN THE TAX SALE IS MADE AND THAT THERE'S EXCESS FUNDS OR IS IT JUST UP TO THE OWNER, JAMES, TO TO KNOW? UM, COUNTY, UH, TREASURER WILL FINE CHAIRMAN PHILLIPS MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT MORE, UM, SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THE SALE HAPPENS, RIGHT? MR. ELLIOT, UM, REMIT THAT EXCESS OVER TO THE CLERK, RIGHT? UM, WHERE THEY'RE WORKING FOR US, THERE'S NO OBLIGATION TO REACH OUT AND TELL THEM THAT YOU HAVE SOME EXCESS FUNDS.
I CAN'T SAY, HEY, YOU, YOU OWE, YOU HAVE EXCESS FUNDS.
THAT, THAT WAS MY REAL QUESTION.
THAT'S, THAT'S MR. CHAIRMAN ONE, JUST ONE THING.
DID YOU TALK WITH THIS PERSON? UH, VERBALLY.
SO, SO HE'S ACTUALLY HERE TODAY.
AND, AND, UM, MOTION, THE QUESTION CAME TO ME ABOUT, UH, WAS THERE ANY EXCESS FUNDS? SO HOW THE CONVERSATION STARTED WAS I JUST LOOKED AND SAW THAT IT WAS SOME MONEY, UH, REMITTED BACK FROM THE CLERK OF COURT TO US, WHICH THE, UH, COUNTY WAS BENEFITED OF THAT MONEY.
UM, SO WHEN HE CAME TO ME AND ASKED ME ABOUT IT, I DID SEE THAT.
AND THEN THE REST OF THE INFORMATION, I BELIEVE HE GOT FROM THE CLERK OF THE COURT TO SEE THE, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.
IT WAS THE 3030 100, 3100 THAT YOU SAW THERE.
UM, BUT WHEN IT'S REMITTED BACK TO US, MR. ELLIOT KEEPS A LITTLE PERCENTAGE OF THAT.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT I UNDERSTAND.
LESSER THAN WHAT, WHAT WAS ASKED.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, PROPERLY SECONDED.
AND A MOTION CARRIES, UH, 12 THREE REVIEW OF SELECT, UH, INITIATIVES IN OUR GOVERNOR'S PROPOSED STATE BUDGET FOR 24 26.
MIKE MASON, AGAIN, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
UM, IN YOUR AGENDA, I HIGHLIGHTED SOME SELECT, UH, PROPOSALS THAT WERE PUT FORTH BY THE GOVERNOR, UM, IN DECEMBER REGARDING THE UPCOMING WELL, THE CURRENT YEAR IN THE FUTURE FISCAL YEAR.
I'M NOT GONNA GO BACK ALL THROUGH THOSE.
THEY'RE JUST AN FYII HAVE HAD A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CAR TAX PROPOSAL, SO I SORT OF JUST PREPARED A ONE SLIDE TO DO WITH THAT.
UM, JUST SO THE BOARD UNDERSTANDS THIS, THE PROPOSAL CREATES A REFUNDABLE INCOME TAX CREDIT FOR TAX YEARS BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST, 2025.
UM, FOR VIRGINIA TAXPAYERS SUBJECT TO THE CAR TAX, THE, THE CREDIT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO AN INDIVIDUAL WHO'S FEDERAL ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME DOES NOT EXCEED 50,000 OR MARRIED PERSONS FILING A JOINT RETURN WHOSE FEDERAL ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME DOES NOT EXCEED A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE PROPOSAL.
SO THERE ARE LIMITATIONS ASSOCIATED, UM, WITH THIS, WITH THIS PROPOSAL.
THE CREDIT IS CAPPED AT $150 FOR SINGLE FI FILERS AND $300 FOR MARRIED PERSONS, OR THE AMOUNT ACTUALLY PAID IN PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX ON THE QUALIFYING VEHICLE, WHICHEVER IS LESS.
UM, THERE IS, UM, THIS ONE LAST SECTION.
IF A LOCALITY INCREASES ITS PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RATE ON QUALIFYING VEHICLES BY MORE THAN 2.5% ABOVE THE RATE INPRO IMPOSED A PREVIOUS YEAR, TAXPAYERS IN THAT LOCALITY WOULD NOT QUALIFY FOR THE CREDIT.
AND THAT SHOULD, SHOULD NOT, WELL, AT LEAST HISTORICALLY, HAS NOT BEEN AN ISSUE HERE BECAUSE MACK HAS NOT INCREASED HIS PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RATE IN DECADES.
UM, THIS IS A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO PROVIDING CAR TAX RELIEF, UM, THAT IS A, UM, FRANKLY, A PRETTY HATED TAX.
UM, AND IT IS A DIFFERENT APPROACH THAT I, I ACTUALLY KINDA LIKE, UM, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T REALLY IMPOSE ON YOUR AUTHORITY, UM, FOR TAXATION PURPOSES.
SO AT LEAST THIS KEEPS THAT DISCUSSION AND THAT ISSUE ON THE
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STATE SIDE AND BEING ADDRESSED THROUGH STATE REVENUES AND STATE SURPLUSES, WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT SOME OF THE PAST PROPOSALS HA HA, HAVE BEEN, WHICH, UH, HA HAVE FRANKLY REALLY IMPOSED ON YOUR LOCAL TAXING AUTHORITY.SO THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S, AGAIN, THERE'S, I I THINK I PICKED MAYBE SEVEN OR EIGHT TOPICS THAT ARE JUST WORTHY OF DISCUSSION.
THERE'S A LOT MORE, OBVIOUSLY.
UM, THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE, ARE GONNA SEND, UH, ATTEND THE VACO'S LOCAL GOVERNMENT DAY WILL USUALLY THEY HAVE A, A PRETTY, UM, HEALTHY REVIEW OF ALL THE DIFFERENT INITIATIVES, UM, THAT ARE COMING THROUGH AND, AND THEIR POSITION ON IT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALWAYS A GOOD, UM, MEETING TO, TO GET BRIEFED ON THINGS.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT I REALLY WANTED TO KIND OF CALL OUT JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL, UM, THE BOARD UNDERSTANDS THE COMPOSITION OF THAT PROPOSAL, MR. CHAIR.
UH, MR. MASON, ON ITEM NUMBER SIX FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, THE $5 MILLION, UH, FOR GRANTS SMITH COUNTY TO PURCHASE PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT FOR FIREFIGHTERS, UH, HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION OF THE COUNTY TAKING A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO APPLYING FOR THAT GRANT TO COVER ALL THE VOLUNTEER COMPANIES? MM-HMM
RIGHT NOW, WE HAVEN'T EVEN LOOKED AT THE DETAILS OF IT BECAUSE ONE, IT, IT, IT HASN'T BEEN ADOPTED, BUT I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT THAT LEGISLATION TO SEE WHAT THE QUALIFYING RIGHT COMPONENTS ARE.
I WOULD JUST ADD THAT WE, IN OUR STRATEGIC, UM, PLANNING MEETING THIS YEAR, TALKED ABOUT GETTING, HIRING A GRANTS ADMINISTRATION FUND OR SOME, OR, OR TEAM TO COME IN AND HELP WRITE GRANTS.
I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE I KNOW I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH TWO FIRE CHIEFS LAST NIGHT SINCE I HAVE THREE CHIEFS.
SO I, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO SOME STANDARDIZATION HERE AND PROVIDE SOME RELIEF TO THE, TO THE VOLUNTEER COMPANIES.
UH, 12 FOUR, CONSIDER, UH, INITIATING, UH, RESOLUTION TO AMEND CHAPTER 1 0 6 ZONING, AMEND BULK ON REGULATIONS TO REDUCE CERTAIN MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS IN A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, LEE PBIT, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AND, AND SO, UM, FOR THESE NEXT TWO ITEMS, 12 FOUR AND 12 FIVE, THEY'RE BOTH INITIATING RESOLUTIONS AND THEY'RE DIRECTLY RELATED TO EACH OTHER.
SO I'M GONNA TAKE THEM TOGETHER, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
AND I'VE GOT, UH, A SLIDE DECK HERE FOR YOU.
AND, UM, BASICALLY AGAIN, WE'VE GOT TWO INITIATING RESOLUTIONS.
ONE IS TO, UH, CONSIDER ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS TO REDUCE CERTAIN BULK REGULATIONS IN THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AND, AND ALLOWING TOWNHOUSES IN THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.
THE SECOND, UH, INITIATING RESOLUTION IS TO ADD AN OVERLAY DISTRICT BASED ON THE VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT AREA, WHICH IS A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, ALLOWING AGRICULTURALLY ZONED SITES TO BE SUBJECT TO THOSE SAME REDUCED BULK REGULATIONS THAT WE JUST MENTIONED IN ITEM NUMBER ONE.
SO THE OVERVIEW AGAIN, UM, WE'VE GOT TWO RESOLUTIONS COVERING THREE MAIN ELEMENTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF REDUCING CERTAIN BULK REGULATIONS IN THE R DISTRICT.
THE ULTIMATE, UH, GOAL THERE IS TO, UM, IS TO, UH, ALLOW FOR SMALLER LOT SIZES IN THE R DISTRICT.
SECOND, UH, TO ADD TOWNHOUSES IN THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AS AN ALLOWED USE WITH CERTAIN, UH, PROVISIONS.
THEY'VE GOT TO, UH, COMPLY WITH CERTAIN PROVISIONS.
AND THEN NUMBER THREE, AGAIN, TO ADD THAT OVERLAY BASED ON THE VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT AREA FOR PROPERTY ZONED AG AT THE BOTTOM, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M, I'M CLEAR ON ALL OF THIS, THAT IT'S ALL BASED ON WHETHER OR NOT A SITE IS DESIGNATED VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT AREA IN THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN OR THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
AND THE SITES HAVE AVAILABLE CENTRALIZED WATER AND SEWER SYSTEMS, AND THOSE CENTRALIZED SYSTEMS COULD EITHER BE PUBLIC OR PRIVATE.
THIS NEXT SLIDE RIGHT HERE IS TO, UH, CLARIFY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND A ZONING DISTRICT.
WHEN YOU PUT THESE TWO MAPS SIDE BY SIDE, THEY LOOK VERY SIMILAR, BUT IN FACT THEY'RE VERY DIFFERENT THINGS.
THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION THAT'S FOUND IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, AND AGAIN, WE HAVE THAT FUTURE LAND USE MAP IN THAT, UH, COMP PLAN AND, UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND EVERYTHING INSIDE IT, INCLUDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THESE ARE ADVISORY IN NATURE.
WE DO NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO, UH, FOLLOW THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THOUGH I WOULD SUBMIT THAT IF WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, SPEND ALL THE RESOURCES OF COMING UP WITH THE STRATEGIC DOCUMENT, IT WOULD BEHOOVE US TO ACTUALLY FOLLOW THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND WE REFER TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OFTEN IN THE, UH, COMMUNITY AND, UH,
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ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT REALM.THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS ALSO MANDATED BY STATE LAW.
EVERY LOCALITY, REGARDLESS OF SIZE IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA, IS REQUIRED TO HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE ZONING DISTRICT IS SOMETHING THAT'S DIFFERENT THAT'S FOUND IN THE, UH, THE EXPLANATIONS OF THE ZONING DISTRICTS ARE FOUND IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
AND THERE IS ALSO AN ASSOCIATED, UM, UH, ZONING MAP THAT SHOWS WHICH PROPERTIES ARE ZONED WHAT DISTRICT.
AND, UM, AND THE ZONING MAP IS ACTUALLY A LAYER ON OUR, UH, WEB-BASED GIS.
SO EVERYONE'S GOT ACCESS TO THE ZONING MAP, AND EVERYONE'S GOT ACCESS TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE AS WELL AS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, THE ZONING, UH, DISTRICT, THE ZONING ORDINANCE, AND THE ZONING MAP, UH, ZONING IS A REGULATION THAT INDEED CARRIES THE FORCE OF LAW.
SO THERE ARE, UM, SO WE CAN, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ENFORCE THAT OR ADMINISTER THAT.
UH, AND THERE ARE REPERCUSSIONS FOR, UM, FOR NOT FOLLOWING THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
UH, WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO APPROVE ANYTHING UNLESS IT COMPLIES WITH THE, UH, ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCES.
THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCES AND THE COMP PLAN IS THAT THOSE ARE OUR PRIMARY TOOLS FOR, UH, IMPLEMENTING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE THIRD TOOL WE HAVE IS ALSO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE REALIZE THIS, BUT ZONING IS ACTUALLY OPTIONAL.
YOU, UH, A LOCALITY DOES NOT HAVE TO ADOPT A, UH, A ZONING ORDINANCE.
UH, YEARS AGO THERE WERE TWO LOCALITIES THAT HADN'T DONE SO.
BUT IN, UH, IN, UH, UH, REVIEWING THAT, UH, I BELIEVE THAT ALL, UH, LOCALITIES IN THE COMMONWEALTH NOW HAVE ZONING.
IS THERE ONE, UH, UH, FRANK, YOU TALK ABOUT IT AT VACO, RIGHT? FRANKLIN COUNTY USED TO NOT HAVE ZONING.
RIGHT? SO ANYWAY, THAT'S THE RELATIONSHIP AND THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE FUTURE LAND USE, UH, DESIGNATIONS AND, AND THE ZONING DISTRICTS.
THIS RIGHT HERE IS A COUNTYWIDE MAP THAT SHOWS, UH, THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE, UM, THAT ARE DESIGNATED VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT AREA, BUT HAVE A DIFFERENT, UH, UH, ZONING CLASSIFICATION THAT'S NOT RESIDENTIAL.
SO THESE GREEN AREAS RIGHT HERE ARE THOSE THAT ARE ZONED AGRICULTURE.
BUT ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, DESIGNATED VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT AREA, THE PINK ONES ARE LIKEWISE, UH, ZONE GENERAL BUSINESS, BUT DESIGNATED VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT AREA, VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT AREA IS ESSENTIALLY A HIGHER DENSITY AND MIXED USE DESIGNATION.
WE HAVE A CORRESPONDING, UM, WE HAVE A CORRESPONDING ZONING CLASSIFICATION CALLED VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
IF YOU RECALL FROM OUR DELIBERATIONS LAST YEAR WITH THE COASTAL SQUARE IN RESIDENCES, THAT DEVELOPER HAD COME FORTH TO PUT A SUB, UH, TO PUT AN APPLICATION IN FOR REZONING.
AND A, UH, AND A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THAT, UH, HIGHER DENSITY AND THAT MIXED USE.
WE'VE GOT SOME, UH, UH, SOME, UH, INSET MAPS OR SOME DETAIL MAPS HERE.
UH, THIS IS THE, UH, THESE ARE THE FOUR TOWNS IN, UH, THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY.
UM, UH, MALFA KELLER PAINTER IN BELLHAVEN.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, AGAIN, REFERRING TO THE GREEN OUTLINES AND THE PURPLE OUTLINES, THOSE ARE AREAS THAT, UM, THAT ARE DESIGNATED VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT AREA THAT, UM, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, CENTRAL MACK WITH THE TOWNS OF, UM, ONLY IN C**K.
AND, UH, AND, UH, MACK, SAME THING.
AREAS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN GREEN ARE ZONED AGRICULTURAL, BUT DESIGNATED VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT AREA.
THERE'S ZONED GENERAL BUSINESS, BUT ALSO LIKEWISE DESIGNATED VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT AREA.
AND, UM, WE'VE ALSO GOT THE TOTALS OF THE ACREAGES, IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED.
UH, JUST GOING BACK TO THE, UH, TO THE ORIGINAL, UH, TO THE FIRST SLIDE, UM, UH, A TOTAL OF 5,089 ACRES OF AGRICULTURAL LAND ARE ALSO DESIGNATED VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT AREA, GENERAL BUSINESS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A TOTAL OF 1026 ACRES.
AND I ALSO, UH, WOULD, UH, ASK THE MEMBERS TO KEEP IN MIND THAT IT'S NOT JUST THE DESIGNATION THAT WOULD ENABLE SOMEONE TO GO TO A HIGHER DENSITY, BUT ALSO, UM, UH, UH, AVAILABILITY OF CENTRALIZED WATER AND SEWER.
UH, THIS IS, UM, UH, PAUL WOOD BLOCKS HIM IN PARKLEY.
AND THEN HERE'S THE WATTS SPILL AREA, WHICH IS OF A PARTICULAR INTEREST TO, UH, SEVERAL DEVELOPERS.
AGAIN, THE PURPOSE, UH, IS TO REDUCE CERTAIN BULK REGULATIONS THAT WOULD RESULT IN SMALLER LOT SIZES IN THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
AND WE'RE, AND WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT, UH, DISCUSSING ADDING TOWNHOUSES
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AS AN ALLOWED USE IN THE AG DISTRICT AS LONG AS IT MEETS THOSE TWO CRITERIA.THEY'VE GOTTA BE SERVED BY CENTRALIZED WATER AND SEWER SYSTEMS. YES.
THEY CAN BE PUBLIC OR PRIVATE.
AND THEY'VE GOTTA BE DESIGNATED VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT AREA.
I KNOW IT'S A HIGHLY TECHNICAL SUBJECT.
STOP ME IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS.
I THINK THAT THE, UM, THAT THE, UH, UH, JUSTIFICATIONS WILL BE OF, UM, OF, UH, INTEREST TO FOLKS.
BUT THE JUSTIFICATIONS FOR REDUCING THESE, UH, UH, VARIOUS LOT SIZES IS TO, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, REDUCE VARIOUS BULK REGULATIONS FOR LOTS THAT HAVE THESE, UH, SHARED WATER AND SEWER FACILITIES.
UH, NUMBER ONE, UH, PUBLIC AND CENTRALIZED UTILITIES ENABLE SMALLER LOT SIZES BECAUSE THE SETBACKS AREN'T NEEDED FOR, UH, FOR THOSE SEPARATIONS FROM WELL, SEPTIC TANKS AND DRAIN FIELDS.
WHEN YOU REDUCE LOT SIZES, YOU SHOULD PROPORTIONALLY REDUCE THE SETBACKS.
UM, JUSTIFICATION NUMBER THREE, IF YOU REDUCE THE LOT SIZES, YOU'RE CONCEPTUALLY, YOU'RE, YOU'RE THEORETICALLY MAKING THOSE, UM, THOSE, UH, HOUSING COSTS CHEAPER AS WELL.
'CAUSE, UH, LAND IS A SIGNIFICANT, UM, IS A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THE HOUSING COSTS.
NUMBER FOUR, WITH SMALLER LOT SIZES, YOU CAN ALSO ENABLE, UH, SMALLER ENTRY LEVEL UNITS SUITABLE FOR THE WORKFORCE.
SO IF YOU'VE GOT A, IF YOU'VE GOT A, YOU KNOW, A 1000 OR A 1200 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE, BUT YOU'RE MAKING THEM PUT THAT ON A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT OR A 15 OR A 20,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT, AND THAT'S JUST IN THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE ADDING TO THE COST, OR I SHOULD SAY WE ARE ADDING TO THE COST OF THE, UH, OF HOUSING IN THE OTHER DISTRICTS.
UH, THOSE LOT SIZES GET EVEN LARGER.
SO IF THEY'RE IN THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT, THEN THEY'VE GOTTA HAVE A MINIMUM OF FIVE ACRES, UNLESS IT'S A FAMILY SUBDIVISION, AND THEY CAN GO AS LOW AS THREE ACRES.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE, THE LOT SIZE, UH, EFFECTS LAYOUT, BUT EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO, TO, UH, UH, ACHIEVE HOME OWNERSHIP, UH, UH, THAT COST IS ALSO FACTORED IN THERE.
LASTLY, AS A JUSTIFICATION, UM, AND THIS IS, AND, AND THEN THIS IS EXPLAINED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SEVERAL TIMES, UH, SMALLER LOT SIZES ENABLES MORE EFFICIENT LAND USE THROUGH INCREASED DENSITY, UH, AGAIN, LOCATED NEAR PUBLIC UTILITIES AND AWAY FROM AGRICULTURAL AREAS.
THESE AGRICULTURAL AREAS DO NOT TYPICALLY HAVE SHARED UTILITIES PRESENT.
SO IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AGRICULTURAL AREAS, THEY'RE MOST LIKELY GOING TO HAVE, UH, A WELL, UH, AND SEPTIC TANK AS WELL AS A DRAINAGE, UH, UH, UH, DRAIN FIELD.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT JUSTIFICATION NUMBER FOUR HERE.
UH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE REDUCED LAND COSTS AND, AND ENABLING SMALLER AND ENTRY LEVEL UNITS SUITABLE FOR THE WORKFORCE, UM, WHAT WE CAN DO BETTER IN OUR ORDINANCE IS TO, UH, IS TO ALLOW THESE DIFFERENT, UH, TYPES OF, UH, UH, DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING UNITS THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY, UH, ALLOW VERY WELL.
SO YES, WE DO ALLOW DUPLEXES, WE DO ALLOW, UM, WE DO ALLOW TOWNHOUSES IN THE VILLAGE, VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT, UH, DISTRICT AND VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT AREA.
BUT, UM, JUST ANECDOTALLY, WHEN YOU LOOK AROUND ACK COUNTY, YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF DUPLEXES.
YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF APARTMENTS, YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF TOWNHOUSES.
AND, UH, THOSE ARE THE UNITS THAT ARE TYPICALLY FOUND ON SMALLER LOTS.
SO WHAT WE CAN DO BETTER IS TO ENABLE THAT.
WHAT THE, UM, WHAT PLANNERS CALL THAT MISSING MIDDLE.
SO THE MISSING MIDDLE IS ANYTHING THAT'S BETWEEN A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING AND, AND AN APARTMENT BUILDING.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT EFFICIENT, UH, LAND USE.
UM, THIS IS JUST FOR REFERENCE ONLY.
THIS APPEARED IN THE, IN THE, UH, STAFF REPORT.
BUT THIS IS, UH, THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT, UH, REGULATIONS THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO CHANGE MINIMUM LOT AREA, AGAIN, WITH THE NEXT FOUR COLUMNS, FRONTAGE, UM, FRONT AND, AND, UH, SIDE YARD SETBACKS, REAR YARD SETBACKS, UH, AMENDING ALL OF THOSE IF IT HASN'T BEEN EXPLAINED BEFORE.
WE'LL TALK JUST A REALLY BRIEFLY ABOUT THE DEFINITION OF TOWNHOUSE.
THAT'S A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING THAT IS CONNECTED TO A SIMILAR HOUSE BY A COMMON SIDEWALL.
HAVING INDIVIDUAL OWNERSHIP OF UNIT AND PROPERTY AND HAVING FEE SIMPLE TITLE, THAT PART IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF SOMEONE DOES TOWNHOUSES HERE IN AKIMA COUNTY, THEY WILL SUBSEQUENTLY HAVE TO DO A SUBDIVISION.
SO IT'S NOT JUST A COME IN AND GET
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YOUR PERMIT FOR YOUR TOWNHOUSES.THERE'S STILL SOME PROCESS INVOLVED.
AND THAT PROCESS, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS WOULD MOST LIKELY INCLUDE.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION SUBDIVISION PROCESS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
THE, UH, THE NEXT PART OF THE FIRST, UM, OF THE FIRST, UH, UH, INITIATING RESOLUTION IS, UH, IS TALKING ABOUT TOWNHOUSES IN THE AG DISTRICT.
A LOT OF THOSE SAME JUSTIFICATIONS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, UH, FOR THE, UH, FOR THE BULK REGULATIONS ALSO APPLY HERE.
BUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS THOSE AREAS THAT ARE ZONED AGRICULTURAL, THAT ARE DESIGNATED VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT AREA.
THAT'S ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE.
SO, UM, SO WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE 5,089 ACRES OF AG LAND, THAT'S ALSO ZONED VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT AREA.
KEEP IN MIND THAT THAT'S GOING TO SHRINK EVEN FURTHER WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU APPLY THE OTHER, UH, WHEN YOU APPLY THE OTHER REQUIREMENT, WHICH IS CENTRALIZED WATER AND SEWER.
THERE ARE VERY FEW AREAS IN AKIMA COUNTY THAT HAVE CENTRAL WATER AND SEWER AVAILABLE.
UM, THE JUSTIFICATION ALSO IS THAT IF THE, IF THESE AREAS, IF WE'VE DESIGNATED THESE AREAS OF VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT AREA IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THEN WE HAVE ALREADY SENT THAT SIGNAL THAT WE INTEND FOR HIGHER DENSITY IN THOSE AREAS.
THAT'S WHY IT'S TIED TO VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT AREA.
MR. DEN, SIR? MR. PAM, I HAVE A QUESTION AND, AND IT MAY HELP YOU IN CUTTING YOUR PRESENTATION A LITTLE BIT SHORTER.
GREAT WORK, GREAT PRESENTATION.
AND I HAVE ONE QUESTION THAT I THINK THAT CAN REALLY RESOLVE THIS.
WHAT YOU'VE DONE HERE IS A GREAT JOB.
AND MY QUESTION IS, AND, AND WHAT I FOCUSED IN WITH WHAT YOU'VE SAID SO FAR, THIS WILL HELP US BRING YOU HOUSING THERE.
SO, LEE, DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE REQUESTS FROM ANY OF THE COMMUNITIES YOU LISTED EARLIER FOR THIS ZONING CHANGE? WE'VE HAD, UM, WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH, UM, AT LEAST TWO DEVELOPERS WHO, UM, WHO HAVE ASKED ME ABOUT SMALLER LOT SIZES IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTY.
AND WHEN, AND WE ARE JUST SIMPLY UNABLE TO GO BELOW 10,000 SQUARE FEET UNLESS THEY GO FOR REZONING TO VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT AREA, UH, VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, AND, UM, AND GET A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR, UM, UM, FOR A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
SO IT'S, UM, IT'S A LOT OF PROCESS INVOLVED IN GETTING THOSE SMALLER LOT SIZES.
UH, AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE IS A STREAMLINED METHOD OR A STREAMLINED PATH FOR DEVELOPERS TO DO THAT.
I GUESS PART OF MY QUESTION IS THOUGH, DO WE CONSIDER CHANGING THE ZONING FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY OR DO WE FOCUS ON STREAMLINING THE PROCESS? IS THERE A METHOD TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS BASED ON THE REQUEST FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE? SO IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO FROM A BUREAUCRATIC PERSPECTIVE INSTEAD OF OPENING THE DOOR? 'CAUSE I, I KNOW I'VE, I WAS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, AND THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS.
IF YOU'RE GONNA REDUCE LOT SIZES, IS IT GONNA OPEN, WHAT'S IT GONNA OPEN US UP TO AT SUBCOMMITTEES? SURE.
SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THESE ARE JUST INITIATING, INITIATING RESOLUTIONS TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION LEVEL.
IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WE'RE JUST SENDING IT TO THE PLANNING.
THAT'S EXACTLY, WE'RE NOT, I WAS GONNA SAY THAT THERE, THERE, THERE ARE NO AMENDMENTS BEING PROPOSED TONIGHT.
THE ONLY THING WE'RE DOING IS, UH, WE'RE JUST, UM, WE'RE JUST GETTING PERMISSION TO TALK ABOUT IT OFFICIALLY AND TO, AND FOR THEM TO LOOK AT IT AND TO, AND TO FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION, YES OR NO, OF COURSE, IT'S ULTIMATELY UP TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
UH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU CAN GO A DIFFERENT WAY THAN THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION, BUT THESE INITIATING RESOLUTIONS ARE NOT TO BE SEEN AS DIRECTIVES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION SAYING, YES, YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH A WAY TO DO THIS.
UM, I APPLAUD STAFF IN LOOKING AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS TASK, YOU KNOW, WE, ONCE WE MAKE THE MOTION HAS GOES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
BUT ONE OF OUR, DURING OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING, ONE OF THE INITIATIVES OR ONE OF THE GOALS THAT WE SET FORTH WAS HOUSING.
SO I THINK STAFF HAVE DONE A MAGNIFICENT JOB IN TRYING TO MOVE US IN THAT DIRECTION.
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AND I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PEOPLE, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT,UH, SO, BUT I JUST THINK THIS IS A GOOD MOVE FORWARD.
UM, I JUST THINK IT SHOULD GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THEY'RE MORE THE EXPERT THAN I AM.
UH, THEY STUDY AND I JUST THINK IT, IT BEARS CONVERSATION.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I, I THINK YOU HAVE MADE A MOTION.
I, WELL, YOU SAID YOU WANNA MAKE ONE, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M MAKE A MO MOTION.
WE REFER THIS TO THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION.
WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR TO, UH, MOVE 12 FIVE AND 12 FOUR, UH, TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW AND EVENTUAL RECOMMENDATION.
ALL OPPOSED? THANK YOU, MS. PASSES.
UH, NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, 13, ONE, WE'LL START THERE.
COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS REPORT, HEAR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO CONSIDER AT A FUTURE MEETING, UH, REPEALING AND REACT, UH, REENACTING IOMA COUNTY'S CODE SECTION TWO DASH THREE.
MIKE MASON, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
SO THIS IS VERBATIM SECTION 2.3 OF MACK COUNTY CODE.
AND, AND IT'S, IT'S FAIRLY SHORT, SO I'M GONNA READ IT.
IT SAYS, NONS SALARY CI MEMBERS AS A CONDITION TO ASSUMING OFFICE ON ANY BOARD, COMMISSION AND AUTHORITY SHALL FILE DISCLOSURE FORM IN THE OFFICE OF THE CLERK OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THEIR PERSONAL INTEREST AND OF SUCH INFORMATION AS SPECIFIES ON THE FORM SET FORTH IN THE CO VIRGINIA, YADA YADA.
THIS REQUIREMENT DOES NOT APPLY.
AND THIS, THESE ARE THE ONLY COMMITTEES THAT HAVE BEEN EXEMPTED FROM IT, UM, TO THE QUIMBEE BOAT HARBOR.
GREENBACK BOAT, HARBOR HAMMOCK, WHICH I'M NOT EVEN SURE IS STILL IN EXISTENCE, BUT, AND, AND HARPED IN PUBLIC FACILITIES, UH, COMMITTEE.
SO, UM, I, I'LL BE THE FIRST TO SAY THAT WE ARE, MY OFFICE IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THIS RIGHT NOW.
UM, WE DO NOT REQUIRE EVERYONE, AND THERE'S ESSENTIALLY 211 DIFFERENT APPOINTEES OF THE BOARD OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE CO VIRGINIA REQUIRES TO DO A DISCLOSURE FORM THAT THIS WOULD COVER.
UM, THE PROBLEM WITH THIS, AND, AND I BELIEVE IT'S OVER OVERLY BURDENSOME AND INEFFECTIVE AS WRITTEN BECAUSE IT, IT REQUIRES DISCLOSURE FORMS BE COMPLETE AND SUBMITTED BY NON SALARY SYSTEM MEMBERS OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, INCLUDING ADVISORY BOARDS AS A CONDITION TO ASSUMING OFFICE.
AND WHEN I SAY IT'S A CONDITION TO ASSUMING OFFICE, THAT'S GONNA APPLY WHEN THEY'RE REAPPOINTED AS WELL.
UH, IT REQUIRES COUNTY STAFF TO MANAGE THE DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS OF OVER 200 BOARD OF SUPERVISOR APPOINTMENTS THAT ARE NOT MANDATED TO FILE DISCLOSURE STATEMENT UNDER THE CODE OF VIRGINIA.
AND SO TO GIVE YOU A KIND OF AN EXAMPLE, UM, THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY COMMISSION AND THE FIRE COMMISSION FOR THAT EXAMPLE ARE EXAMPLES.
UM, WHO THESE, THESE AUTHOR, THESE ENTITIES HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO IMPLEMENT POLICY OR BIND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, BUT ARE REQUIRED TO FILE DISCLOSURE FORM NONETHELESS.
UM, AND AGAIN, I THINK IT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT CODE SECTION TWO THREE IS ONE OF THE RARE EXAMPLES WHERE THE COUNTY HAS ADOPTED PROVISIONS THAT ARE MUCH MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN WHAT THE CODE OF VIRGINIA REQUIRES.
AND SO, I'M NOT ASKING, LET ME JUST BACK UP WHAT I SHOULD HAVE SAID RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
I'M NOT ASKING FOR A DECISION TONIGHT AS TO REALLY TO TO CHANGE SOMETHING.
'CAUSE THERE'S A PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
I'M ASKING FOR, FOR PERMISSION, IF YOU WILL, TO PURSUE SUCH A, BUT SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION PROPERLY SECONDED, UH, TO, TO GET, UH, STAFF TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS.
WE DON'T NEED TO BE MORE THAN THE STATE.
THE STATE DOESN'T KNOW THIS PROBABLY.
YEAH, WELL, WHAT I WOULD REC THE, THE STATE RULES GIVE YOU SOME PARAMETERS ON ADDING TO THE LIST AND I WILL PROPOSE THAT YOU DO THAT.
THAT, AND, AND THESE WOULD BE THE ONES THAT I WOULD ADD WETLANDS BOARD.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW THE REQUIREMENT, THE STATE CODE REQUIREMENTS DON'T, DON'T MANDATE A WETLANDS BOARD FILE DISCLOSURE STATEMENT, BUT THAT'S A REGULATORY BODY THAT'S REALLY NO DIFFERENT IN MY MIND CONCEPTUALLY THAN THE BZA.
SO THAT'S THAT, THAT'S KIND OF AN EXAMPLE WHERE I THINK WE SHOULD REQUIRE, AND WE, AND FRANKLY WE HAVE BEEN REQUIRING IN THE PAST, BUT IN ORDER TO, TO REALLY SPELL IT OUT, UM, THE ORDINANCE WOULD BE RE REPEALED AND REENACTED TO, TO HAVE ALL THESE CONCLUSIONS.
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ALRIGHT.DO YOU WANNA CONTINUE? SO JUST, UM, JUST A QUICK NOTE ON UPCOMING MEETINGS.
'CAUSE YOU DO HAVE, UH, TWO MEETINGS THAT'LL HAPPEN PRIOR TO YOUR NEXT REGULAR BOARD MEETING IN FEBRUARY, YOU HAVE THE FEBRUARY 3RD, UH, MEETING DEVOTED TO PRESENTATION OF FY 26 BUDGET AND TAX RATE PROPOSAL FROM MYSELF.
UM, YOU ALSO HAVE, AND I WANT TO JUST CLARIFY A DATE HERE, WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 5TH IS THE DATE THAT WAS, UH, APPROVED AS PART OF THE, UH, DRAFT BUDGET CALENDAR THAT THE BOARD WAS PRESENTED LAST YEAR.
UM, I THINK ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE BROUGHT FORWARD IN FRONT OF THE BOARD AT YOUR ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING HAD THIS FEBRUARY 5TH MEETING IS FEBRUARY 6TH.
BUT, UM, I JUST WANT TO, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST CALL OUT THAT THE PLAN IS FOR FEBRUARY 5TH.
UM, SO THAT'S, AGAIN, IF THERE'S NO PROBLEMS WITH THAT, WE'LL JUST KEEP MOVING ON.
BUT THAT'S THE DATE THAT YOUR, YOUR BOARDS AND YOUR AGENCIES ARE GONNA COME FORWARD AND PRESENT THEIR BUDGET REQUEST.
AND THAT'S ALSO THE FIRST WEDNESDAY, SO THAT WE ALREADY, AND IT ALIGNS WITH IT.
WE ALREADY SET THAT ASIDE AS OUR WORK DAY AND, AND WE HAVE SOME TRAININGS, FRANKLY, SCHEDULED FOR THURSDAY.
I WOULD LIKE NOT TO, UH, HAVE TO RESCHEDULE.
ALL MEETINGS AGAIN ARE AT FIVE O'CLOCK AND THEY'RE IN THIS, IN THIS ROOM.
SO I'LL JUST KEEP ROLLING ALONG.
13 THREE IS, UH, IS A REMINDER TO, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT DISCLOSURE FORMS, BUT UH, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE AT, WE'RE IN THAT TIME OF YEAR.
THOSE ARE REQUIRED TO BE IN, IN MY OFFICE BY FEBRUARY 1ST.
SO IT'S JUST A GENERAL REMINDER JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU GET THOSE IN.
AGAIN, THAT'S A STATE CODE MANDATE AND UM, IT HAS, IT HAS SOME TEETH.
UM, IF THINGS DON'T GO AWAY, WE NEVER HAD THAT PROBLEM WITH THIS BOARD, BUT SOMETIMES WE DO HAVE TO CHASE A FEW PEOPLE DOWN TO GET THEM IN THE END.
SO OTHER, UM, FIVE DIFFERENT JUST QUICK, UH, POINTS I WANNA MAKE, UH, THE BOARD, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN DECEMBER, ASKED, UM, FOR ME TO CONTACT VIRGINIA SPACE AND ARRANGE FOR A PRESENTATION FROM THEM AT A FUTURE BOARD MEETING.
I HAVE DONE THAT AND THEY AGREED TO COME TO YOUR FEBRUARY MEETING.
UM, JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
WE DO HAVE, UH, NONE OF THESE ARE REALLY RELATED TO ONE ANOTHER.
AND NEXT THING, UM, IS, UH, THAT I WANT, NEXT ISSUE I WANNA BRING FORWARD IS WE, WE HAVE HAD THE OPEN PERIOD FOR GRANTS, UM, THE COUNTY'S DERELICT BUILDING REMOVAL GRANT PROGRAM.
UH, WE DID GET TWO APPLICATIONS AND THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN THE REVIEW PROCESS.
UH, WE GOT NOTIFIED A COUPLE DAYS AGO THAT WE RECEIVED A $12,500 GRANT, UM, FROM THE COMMONWEALTH FOR SUSTAINABILITY FUND TO BE USED FOR OUTDOOR RECREATION PURPOSES.
THAT'S A PRETTY SMALL ITEM TO BRING UP.
BUT SINCE SOME ONE OF YOUR STRATEGIC OR ONE OF YOUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES WAS TO, UM, UH, FOR THE STATE TO PUMP MORE MONEY INTO THIS PROGRAM, I JUST THOUGHT I'D, I'D BRING IT FORWARD TO LET YOU KNOW WE ARE GETTING SOME FUNDING, JUST NOT AS MUCH AS I THINK ANYONE WOULD, WOULD LIKE TO HAVE FROM IT.
UH, TWO, TWO FINAL ITEMS HAVE TO DO WITH THE OLD LIBRARY AND THE NEW REGIONAL LIBRARY AND HERITAGE CENTER.
THE FIRST ONE, UM, YOU ALL MAY HAVE NOTICED AS IF YOU'VE BEEN RIDING THROUGH TOWN, THAT EXTERIOR WORK ON THE OLD LIBRARY IS COMMENCED.
UM, THAT'S BASICALLY WINDOWS THE DORMERS, UM, THE FRONT, UM, VESTIBULE AS YOU CAME IN THAT'S BEEN REMOVED.
IT'S JUST REALLY, UM, TIGHTENING UP THE BOX.
UH, WE HAVE NOT, UH, COMMENCED INTERIOR DESIGN OR ANY INTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS, BUT THAT'S COMING.
SO YOU'LL YOU'LL, YOU'LL CONTINUE TO SEE MORE WORK HAPPENING OVER THERE.
UM, MOVING ON TO OUR NEW FACILITY.
UH, THE BULK OF OUTSTANDING ISSUES WITH THE HVAC AT THE REGIONAL LIBRARY AND HERITAGE CENTER HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
WE ARE AWAITING FINAL TESTING AND BOUNCING OF THAT SYSTEM BY AN INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY BEFORE THIS MATTER IS CONSIDERED CLOSED.
YOU ALL WHERE WE CALL, WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THE A-H-V-A-C, THE SUBCONTRACTOR HAS BEEN IN THERE ADDRESSING THIS, THESE ISSUES.
BUT WE DO HAVE A NEUTRAL THIRD PARTY TO COME IN AND TEST AFTER THAT'S COMPLETED.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE WAITING ON THOSE RESULTS.
ASSUMING THE TESTING IS COMPLETED AND SHOWS SATISFACTORY RESULTS, THE BOARD WILL BE ASKED TO AUTHORIZE DISTRIBUTION OF THE UNENDED PROJECT FUNDS IN FEBRUARY TO THOSE ENTITIES WHO FINANCIALLY CONTRIBUTED TO THE PROJECT BASED ON THE TERMS INCLUDED IN THE EXECUTED LEASE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND, AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REMARKS.
UM, SUPERVISOR'S COMMENTS, SUPERVISOR WASHINGTON? NONE.
I HAD ONE COMMENT REGARDING, UH, CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR COMING HERE TONIGHT FROM BURG.
YOU SAID ONE THING THAT'S KIND OF STUCK WITH ME, UHHUH.
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YOU ALRIGHT? YEAH, I'M FINE.I, YOU KNOW, THE CONCERN ABOUT THE, UM, THAT YOU HAVE THE, THE AUTHORITY BASICALLY TO DETERMINE WHAT REGULAR PARTICIPATION IS.
I WOULD ASK YOU TO THINK VERY STRONGLY WHETHER YOU REALLY WANT TO GIVE THAT AUTHORITY TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
'CAUSE NORMALLY IN MY EXPERIENCE, THAT'S THE LIE.
I WANT TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION AT MY LEVEL.
IT'S NOT EQUITABLE THROUGHOUT ALL THE COMPANIES IT'S OWN, BUT SOME ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT.
BUT I, AGAIN, I I, I THROW THAT OUT, BUT I THINK IT'S, WE CAN'T HAVE ENOUGH PARTICIPATION FROM OUR VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES AND GETTING INFORMATION OUT ABOUT WHAT THE GREAT THINGS THEY'RE DOING FOR US.
UH, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I KNOW I THINK WE'RE HAVE 30 SOME RECENTLY GRADUATING OR IN TRAINING PRESENTLY.
AND THOSE ARE GOOD NUMBERS THAT WE NEED TO HEAR MORE OF.
I HAVE NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
UH, JUST ONE COMMENT, MR. CHAIRMAN.
UH, JUST POINT OF CLARIFICATION, UM, UH, IN REFERENCE TO WHAT THE BOARD DOES FOR OUR VOLUNTEER, UH, FIRE COMPANIES AND, AND EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID HERE WAS, WAS CORRECT.
UH, BUT I WANT TO ADD, UH, ONE THING.
THERE'S TWO ENTITIES, ENTITIES WITHIN THE AKIMA COUNTY BUDGET THAT RECEIVES AUTOMATICALLY AN INCREASE IN THEIR ALLOTMENT.
AND, UH, AND THAT AS A SCHOOL BOARD, THEY GET 53% OF ALL NEW CERTAIN, ALL NEW FUNDS.
AND THE VOLUNTEERS GET, AND I'LL GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS, UH, I THINK IT'S LIKE 3 CENTS NOW.
OUR, OUR, UH, REAL ESTATE TAX IS 48.40 CENTS PER $100 VALUE OF REAL ESTATE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.
THE, UM, THE VOLUNTEERS GET LIKE 3 CENTS OF THAT, AND THAT'S AUTOMATIC.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME IN AND REQUEST THAT.
AND ONLY TWO ENTITIES GET THAT SCHOOL BOARD AND THE VOLUNTEERS.
SO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, WE DO, WE DO INCREASE THEIR FUNDING.
AND, UH, THEY'RE THE ONLY TWO ENTITIES THAT GET AN AUTOMATIC INCREASE IF THE, IF, IF OUR REVENUES, IF OUR REVENUES INCREASE, THEIR ALLOTMENTS INCREASE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC WAS AWARE OF THAT.
I JUST WANTED TO, UH, ON MONDAY, UH, WE CELEBRATE, UH, A LOT OF THINGS.
AND ALSO WE HAVE, UH, THAT COMMENCES AT, UH, THE MACEDONIA A M CHURCH, UH, AT, UM, I THINK IT'S AT 10 IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
MARTIN LUTHER KING WAS ABOUT UNITY WASN'T JUST ABOUT ONE RACE OR ONE ETHNIC GROUP.
AND I THINK THAT'S ONE THING I LIKE ABOUT, UH, WON THE NOBEL NOBEL PRIEST, UM, PRIZE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED MORE UNITY.
AND I JUST SAID, UH, ADMONISH ALL BOARD MEMBERS, IF YOU CAN MAKE IT, I, I, MR. POCKET, WE ALREADY SAID THAT YOU COULDN'T COME.
YOU HAVE A PROOF PREVIOUS ENGAGEMENT, HE USUALLY ALWAYS THERE.
BUT I JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, TRY TO STRONGLY ENCOURAGE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS ON THAT SHOW SOME UNITY.
UH, WE ARE LEADERS AND WE NEED TO BE THE FIRST ONE WHO LEAD.
WHEN WE NEED UNITY, LET THIS BOARD SHOW UNITY.
UM, YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST A COUPLE THINGS.
ONE, I ALSO WANNA THANK SEAN FOR COMING.
HE MADE SOME VERY GOOD POINTS.
UM, HE'S A VERY GOOD CHIEF AT BURG AND I WANNA THANK HIM FOR THAT.
I DO, I DO HOPE THAT THE BOARD WILL TAKE UP AND AT LEAST DISCUSS DURING OUR BUDGET TIME THE VOLUNTEERS, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, AKIMA COUNTY, THIS IS STATEWIDE.
IT'S, IT'S DISCUSSED EVERYWHERE AND THERE'S PROBLEMS EVERYWHERE AND THERE'S ISSUES EVERYWHERE.
AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY TOO, YES, IT'S NICE THAT THE GOVERNOR PUT IN HIS BUDGET $5 MILLION AS IN A GRANT TO PROPOSE THAT.
BUT $5 MILLION SPREAD ACROSS THIS STATE IS NOTHING.
UH, ONE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IS CLOSE TO A MILLION.
SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT, THE VOLUNTEERS NEED, UH, STATEWIDE NEED WAY MORE HELP.
AND I THINK THE LOCALS DO TOO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S A VERY MINUTE AMOUNT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT ONE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, AND YOU'RE GONNA SPREAD THAT 5 MILLION OVER HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF FIRE COMPANIES.
SO WE NEED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND TOO.
JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT, UM, SUPERVISOR MAJOR SAID, UH, ABOUT THE MARTIN LUTHER KING.
I WILL BE THE KEYNOTE SPEAKER, SO THAT'LL GIVE YOU ALL REASON.
I WILL BE THE KEYNOTE SPEAKER.
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VERY MUCH.15 ONE, CONSIDER APPROVING, UH, RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE, UH, MOVE IT.
WHAT TIME IS, UH, TO, UH, TO APPROVE, EXCUSE ME.
TO APPROVE, UH, RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE 25 BUDGET.
UM, NEXT THING, CONSIDER PAYABLES.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND, UH, PROPERLY SECONDED TO PAY THE BILLS.
WE HAVE, UH, WE DO HAVE A CLOSED MEETING TONIGHT.
UH, SO WITH THAT, UM, THANK THE LORD, UH, MS. JOHNSONS, UH, SUPERVISOR JOHNSON.
I MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION FOR PURSUIT TO VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 A FIVE FOR DISCUSSION CONCERNING PROSPECTIVE BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY OR THE EXPANSION OF AN EXISTING BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY WHERE NO PREVIOUS ANNOUNCEMENT HAS BEEN MADE OF A BUSINESSES OR INDUSTRIES INTEREST IN LOCATING OR EXPANDING ITS FACILITIES IN THE NORTHERN ACK COUNTY.
SECOND, SIR, WE HAVE A MOTION PROPERLY SECONDED TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION.
AND JUST SO YOU'LL KNOW, THERE IS NO ACTION AFTER THIS CLOSED MEETING.
SO ONLY THING WHEN WE COME BACK WILL BE JUST TO ADJOURNMENT.
MR. JOHNSON, WILL YOU BRING US OUT OF CLOSED SESSION? I CAN MOVE.
THE CLOSED SESSION CERTIFICATION CERTIFIED THAT THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE ONE, ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS, LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS UNDER VIRGINIA LAW.
AND TWO, ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSED SESSION WAS CONVENED, WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED OR CONSIDERED IN THE MEETING.
SECOND, THEY HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.
AND WE ARE BACK IN OPEN SESSION.
UH, I I WILL ENTERTAIN 18 ONE MOVE WE ADJOURN.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND THAT'S NON-NEGOTIABLE.