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OF THE AKIMA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.[Board of Supervisors on June 18, 2025.]
UH, WELCOME AGAIN, EACH, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU IF YOU HAVE A CELL PHONE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, PLEASE, IF YOU PUT IT ON EITHER SILENT OR VIBRATE THROUGHOUT THE MEETING, WE'D CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT.AND IF YOU WILL, AND YOU COULD.
AND, UH, WOULD YOU STAND FOR OUR INVOCATION AND OUR PLEDGE? DO, LET'S PRAY.
ALLOW US TO DO OUR WORK THROUGH YOUR WILL.
A PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
ONE, THREE, ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, PROPERLY SECONDED.
HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? WE'LL GET RIGHT ON BY NOW.
WE HAVE, WE'RE PROBABLY, UH, MOTION TO MOVE THE MINUTES, UH, PROPERLY.
SO WE HAVE SOME RECOGNITIONS TONIGHT.
SO FIRST ONE, I'M GONNA TURN OVER TO, UH, SUPERVISOR CROCKETT.
HE ALREADY HAS DELIVERED HIS, BUT I'M GOING TO JUST FOR RECOGNITION AND FOR RECORD, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO THANK YOU.
UH, LAST FRIDAY I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF TRAVELING TO, UH, TO TANGIER, UH, WITH THE SHERIFF'S BOAT AND, UH, TO ATTEND THE GRADUATION TANGER HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION.
AND THE VALEDICTORIAN FOR THIS YEAR'S CLASS, UH, WAS LUCAS NEIL THOMAS, AND I WAS ABLE TO PRESENT HIM THAT, UH, THAT RECOGNITION, UH, IN PERSON.
AND, UH, HAD A GOOD TRIP OVER A ROUGH TRIP COMING, VERY ROUGH TRIP COMING BACK,
UH, AT THIS TIME I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO SUPERVISOR PARKS FOR RECOGNITION OF ARCADIA HIGH SCHOOL'S.
UH, MS. RODRIGUEZ, WANNA STEP UP?
SO I'M GONNA READ THIS FOR EVERYBODY, BUT IT'S INCREDIBLE HONOR, UM, RESOLUTION TO RECOGNIZE ALICIA RODRIGUEZ, VALEDICTORIAN OF OUR ARCADIA HIGH SCHOOL CLASS OF 2025.
DID SHE JOIN US HERE TODAY? WHEREAS THE AKIMA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WISHES TO RECOGNIZE ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE AND ACHIEVEMENT BY THE COUNTY'S HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.
AND WHEREAS MS. RODRIGUEZ, HAVING WORKED DILIGENTLY TO ACHIEVE A GRADE POINT AVERAGE OF 4.35, HAS BEEN DEEMED VALEDICTORIAN OF THE ARCADIA HIGH SCHOOL CLASS OF 2025.
MS. RODRIGUEZ IS EXEM BY A POSITIVE SOCIAL INTERACTION AND EXEMPLARY CHARACTER THAT SET AN EXAMPLE FOR PEERS AS A STUDENT ATHLETE AND CITIZEN OF AK COUNTY.
WHEREAS MAINTAINING HER EDUCATION, MS. RODRIGUEZ, PARTICIPATING IN CROSS COUNTRY TRACK CAMERA ACROSS COUNTRY.
HI Y SCHOLASTIC BOWL AND GIRLS SOCCER.
MS. RODRIGUEZ IS DESERVING OF RECOGNITION FOR HER ROLE IN THE COMMUNITY AS A MEMBER OF THE EASTERN SHORE COMMUNITY COLLEGE HONOR ROLE, JACK KENT COOK SCHOLARSHIP SEMI-FINALIST AND YOUTH LEADER OF HER CHURCH.
LET IT THEREFORE BE RESOLVED THAT THE AKIMA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS RECOGNIZES MS. PO RODRIGUEZ FOR HER ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT.
AND CONGRATULATIONS TO HER ON HER SELECTION AS VALEDICTORIAN FOR OUR ARCADIA HIGH SCHOOL IN 2025.
UH, AT THIS TIME, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO A SUPERVISOR TAR FOR THE SHTICK HIGH SCHOOL.
I DON'T BELIEVE SHE'S PRESENT TONIGHT.
IS MS. CRAWFORD PRESENT? DON'T BELIEVE SHE IS.
I, I'D LIKE TO READ IT FOR THE RECORD IS A RESOLUTION TO RECOGNIZE MCKAY CROPPER VALEDICTORIAN OF HIGH SCHOOL CLASS OF 2025, WHERE IS THE MIMA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, WHICH IS TO RECOGNIZE ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE AND ACHIEVEMENT BY THE COUNTY'S HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.
AND WHEREAS MS. MAKAY CROPPER HAVING WORKED DILIGENTLY TO ACHIEVE A GRADE FOUR AVERAGE OF 4.26, HAS BEEN NAMED VALEDICTORIAN FOR HINKY DICK HIGH SCHOOL CLASS OF 2025.
AND WHEREAS MS. CROPPER HAS EXEMPLIFIED POSITIVE SOCIAL INTERACTION, AN EXEMPLARY CHARACTER THAT SETS AN EXAMPLE FOR HER PEERS AS A STUDENT AND CITIZEN OF MACK COUNTY.
AND WHEREAS WHILE MAINTAINING HER EDUCATION, MS. CRAWFORD PARTICIPATED IN THE SENIOR BETA AND KEY CLUB.
AND WHEREAS MS. CRAWFORD IS DESERVING OF RECOGNITION FROM HER ROLE IN THE COMMUNITY, COMPLETING VARIOUS COMMUNITY SERVICE ACTIVITIES, WHICH TOTAL 104 HOURS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE, AND NOW LET IT THEREFORE BE RESOLVED.
THE YAKIMA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REC RECOGNIZES MS. CROPPER FOR HER ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT AND CONGRATULATES HER ON HER SELECTION AS VALEDICTORIAN AND HIGH SCHOOL CLASS OF 2025.
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AND NOW BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE YAKIMA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HEREBY RECOMMENDS AN HONORS TO 2025 SIDNEY HIGH SCHOOL, VALEDICTORIAN MCKAY CRAWFORD ON HER IMPRESSIVE ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT AND WISHES HER CONTINUED SUCCESS WITH HER EDUCATION AT VIRGINIA TECH.SIGNED ITS 18TH DAY OF JUNE, 2025 BY THE AKIMA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, BILLY JOE TAR SUPERVISOR, ELECTION DISCIPLINARY
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SUPERVISOR TAR.
UH, AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO VICE CHAIR, UH, MAJOR FOR, UH, NANDU HIGH SCHOOL'S VALEDICTORIAN.
AND I HAD THE PLEASURE OF ATTENDING
I'M GONNA ASK MS. THEMA HOPE FORWARD RESOLUTION TO RECOGNIZE EMMA HOLT BOUNDARY TOWARD THE MAN HIGH SCHOOL CLASS OF 2025.
WHEREAS THE ABA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WISHES TO RECOGNIZE ACADEMIC EFFORTS IN ACHIEVEMENT BY THE COUNTY'S HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.
AND WHEREAS MS. EMMA HOLT HAS WORKED DILIGENTLY TO ACHIEVE A GRADE POINT AVERAGE OF 4.39 HAS BEEN NAMED THE VALEDICTORIAN FOR THE NORTH, I'M SORRY, FOR THE MAN
WHEREAS MS. HOLE HAS EXEMPLIFIED POSITIVE SOCIAL ACTION, EXEMPLARY CHARACTER THAT SETS AN EXAMPLE FOR HER PEERS AS THE STUDENT ATHLETE AND CITIZEN OF FAMA COUNTY.
AND WHEREAS WHILE MAINTAINING HER EDUCATION, MS. HALL PARTICIPATED IN CROSS COUNTRY TRACK SWIMMING AND THE TAG PROGRAM.
AND WHEREAS MS. HOL HOLT WAS ACTIVE IN THE EASTERN SHORE, UH, ARTS BALLET, AND WHEREAS MS. HOL DESERVED A RECOGNITION FOR HER ROLE IN THE COMMUNITY AS A LIFEGUARD AT THE ONLY AND IMPLORED WITH DISGUISE AT THE ISLAND HOUSE.
THE ONLY, REMEMBER THAT I HAVE SO REST MINE.
AND NOW THEY, WE THEREFORE BE RESOLVED.
BUT THE OUN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS RECOGNIZES MS OFF FOR HER ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT IONS ON EDUCATION IN TORIAN OF MANURA HIGH SCHOOL CLASS OF 2025, AND NOW BE FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE AKIMA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HEREBY COMMENCE AND HONORS THE 2025 NUA HIGH SCHOOL, VALE VICTORIA.
EMMA HOLT ON HER IMPRESSIVE ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT AND WISHES HER CONTINUED SUCCESS WITH HER EDUCATION AT THE UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA.
SIGNED THE 18TH DAY OF JUNE, 2025 OF AKIMA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, CASSANDRA RENITA WON'T USE TO SAY THIS.
CASSANDRA RENITA MAJOR, UH, WHO REPRESENTS ELECTION DISTRICT FIVE WITH AKIMA COUNTY BOARD SUPERVISORS AND W JACKIE PHILLIPS, WHO REPRESENTS ELECTION DISTRICT SEVEN ON THE BOARD.
SO, NEXT ON LIST IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT WITH YOUR PLEASURE, MOVE THAT BE APPROVED.
PROBABLY SECONDED TO MOVE THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA.
ALL IN FAVOR? A OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES.
NEXT ON THE LIST WOULD BE THE, UH, REPORT FROM PUBLIC OFFICES.
SO WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS I'M GONNA INTRODUCE, UH, THE, UH, VICE CHAIR OF AIMA COUNTY, UH, SCHOOL BOARD, MR. ED TAYLOR TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW IOMA COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT.
UH, GOOD EVENING, UM, CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS.
UM, I THANK YOU FOR VERY MUCH FOR THE, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY AND PRIVILEGE TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW SUPERINTENDENT.
RIGHT BEFORE, UM, I DO THAT, I'D JUST LIKE TO GIVE YOU A QUICK LITTLE OVERVIEW.
UM, WE ADVERTISED FOR THE POSITION OURSELVES.
INSTEAD OF USING A FIRM, WE HAD 18 APPLICANTS THAT, UM, APPLIED.
AND THROUGH THAT, UM, THAT PROCESS, WE WENT AHEAD AND, UM, ALL NINE MEMBERS OF THE, OF THE SCHOOL BOARD HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO RANK EACH, UM, APPLICANT.
AND THOSE RANKINGS WERE PUT INTO A SPREADSHEET, AND THE TOP SIX WERE, UM, UM, NOMINATED OR PICKED.
AND THEN WE HAD TWO NIGHTS OF ACTUALLY HAVING INTERVIEWS, THREE ONE NIGHT AND THREE ANOTHER NIGHT.
AND AFTER THAT, WE PICKED A TOP FOUR, HAD ANOTHER, UM, COUPLE, FOUR EVENINGS OF INTERVIEWS, ONE-ON-ONE AGAIN TO, UM, DECIDE TO WHICH APPLICANT WAS THE BEST FIT.
AND SO WE OBVIOUSLY CHOSE DR. JENNIFER MILLER.
SHE, UM, HAS AN EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND ON SPECIAL EDUCATION.
SHE HAS BEEN THE BUILDING ADMINISTRATION ON ALL THREE LEVELS OF, AT, UH, ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE, AND HIGH SCHOOL, AND HAS A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE ON THE VIRGINIA CODE AND ALL OUR, OUR POLICIES.
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FOR AND FURTHER ADO, I'D LIKE TO, UM, INVITE DR. JENNIFER MILLER TO, TO THE BOARD, OR TO THE THANK YOU PODIUM.I'M JENNIFER MILLER, AND, UM, JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU AND, UM, THANK YOU FOR WEL WELCOMING ME INTO YOUR BUILDING,
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO A LONG, UM, AND PRODUCTIVE RELATIONSHIP.
AND, UM, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ON THE BUDGET AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE CAN MAKE HAPPEN FOR THE SCHOOLS AND FOR THE COUNTY.
BUT AT THIS TIME, WE'LL RECEIVE AN UPDATE FROM THE EASTERN SHORE RAIL TRAILS, UH, MR. RON WOLF, UH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE EASTERN SHORE RAIL TRAIL FOUNDATION,
I GOTTA GET A WHISTLE TO START.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, FOR THE INTRODUCTION.
UM, IT IS ALWAYS GREAT TO BE HERE IN FRONT OF THE BOARD.
UH, IT'S GREAT TO SEE ALL OF YOU.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE, UH, MY BOARD MEMBERS THAT SERVE EITHER ON THE KENNI BOARD, THE EASTERN SHORE RAIL TRAIL FOUNDATION BOARD ARE THE A-N-T-D-C BOARD.
SO, MR. HART, MS. MAJOR, AND MR. PHILLIPS ARE ALL PART OF THIS BIG ORGANIZATION.
UM, AS I SAID, IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO BE HERE.
IT FEELS LIKE HOME, UM, EXCEPT I WAS USUALLY THERE, NOT HERE,
BUT, UM, THE EASTERN SHORE RAIL TRAIL FOUNDATION, WE HAVE BEEN MAKING GREAT STRIDES.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE CELEBRATED OUR GROUNDBREAKING JUST A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
UM, MAY THE 22ND DOWN IN CAPE CHARLES.
UH, WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE A GREAT WEATHER DAY.
UM, IT WAS PENDING RAIN, BUT UH, THE SUN HELD UP.
WE DID GET A BIT OF WIND LATER IN THE DAY, BUT IT DIDN'T KEEP ANYBODY FROM HAVING A, A GREAT TIME AT OUR GROUNDBREAKING.
UM, THIS PICTURE IS KIND OF WHERE IT ALL GOT STARTED BACK IN 2022 WHEN WE RECEIVED A FEDERAL GRANT THROUGH THE HELP OF THEN CONGRESSWOMAN ELAINE LAURIA FOR, UH, JUST OVER $2.5 MILLION FOR THE FIRST LEG OF THE RAIL TRAIL.
CAPE CHARLES, UH, FROM RAYFIELD PHARMACY ALL THE WAY OUT TO ROUTE 13 AT FOOD LION, AND THEN UP INTO SHERIDAN.
SO THE RAIL TRAIL, WE'VE, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK, UH, TRYING TO GET OUR NAME OUT THERE, WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO CREATE THIS TRAIL, UH, FOR SAFETY, HEALTH, UH, RECREATION FOR THE CITIZENS OF BOTH AKAMAK AND NORTH HAMPTON COUNTY.
SO WE ATTEND MANY EVENTS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
UH, SUMMERTIME IS PRIMETIME FOR US.
SO, UH, UH, WE ARE AT TABLE EVENTS THROUGHOUT BOTH COUNTIES, AND YOU CAN SEE WE, WE TRY TO MAKE IT A GOOD TIME.
WE, WE TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO ENCOURAGE 'EM TO COME UP AND, UH, TRY TO GIVE THEM A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHY, AND HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT NOT ONLY THE WELLBEING OF OUR CITIZENS, BUT THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT THAT IT'S GONNA BRING TO BOTH AKAMAK AND NORTH HAMPTON COUNTIES, PARTICULARLY THE OLD HISTORIC RAILROAD TOWNS, UH, THAT THE TRAIL WILL NOW GO THROUGH SINCE THE RAILROAD HAS STOPPED ITS OPERATION.
SO THE MAP HERE KIND OF DEPICTS, UM, WHERE THE TRAIL IS, AGAIN, IT GOES UP THE 50 MILE CARTER OF THE OLD EXISTING BAY COAST RAILROAD, UM, PRETTY MUCH DOWN THE CENTER OF, OF THE, UH, EASTERN SHORE AND INTO BOTH COUNTIES.
UM, FOR THE MOST PART, WE HAVE THREE QUARTERS OF THE TRAIL FUNDED.
I SAY WE HAVE IT, WE'RE EXPECTING IT.
THE STATE SIDE OF FUNDING IS, IS PRETTY SOLID.
UH, THE FEDERAL FUNDING, OUR LARGEST SECTION, IT'S ABOUT 18 MILES, 23 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
WE HOPED TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT SIGNED
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BY THE END OF MAY.THEY ASKED FOR A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION.
ALL THAT INFORMATION HAS BEEN PROVIDED, SO WE'RE HOPING ANY DAY NOW TO GET A FINAL AGREEMENT SIGNED WITH THE FEDS.
SO, UM, THE UNFUNDED, THE RED AREAS, UH, THE FIRST ONE YOU SEE TO THE SOUTH IN NORTH HAMPTON COUNTY HAS NOW BEEN FUNDED THROUGH A SMART SCALE GRANT THROUGH THE STATE $18 MILLION.
UH, THE GREEN PORTION IS THE FEDERAL PORTION THAT I MENTIONED, 23 AND A HALF MILLION, UH, THE RED PORTION TO THE NORTH, UH, IN MACK COUNTY.
YOU COULD REALLY SLICE THAT RED LINE IN HALF.
UM, THE ONLY TWO PARSLEY PORTION IS GONNA BE ANOTHER SMART SCALE PROJECT, BUT WE CAN'T MAKE THAT APPLICATION UNTIL THE 2026 ROUND OF SMART SCALE APPLICATIONS ARE OPEN.
AND THIS IS WHERE YOU ALL COME IN TO HELP US.
UM, IF YOU REMEMBER BACK, UH, WE APPLIED FOR A COUPLE SMART SCALE APPLICATIONS, ONE IN NORTH HAMPTON, ONE IN MACK.
AND VDOT HAD TOLD US THAT THE A AND TDC COULD MAKE THAT APPLICATION THE LAST DAY.
THEY SAID, OOPS, WE MADE A MISTAKE.
IT CAN ONLY BE THE COUNTIES THAT CAN APPLY.
SO, UH, ANN DOYLE, WHO WORKS FOR THE PDC, WAS IN A PANIC.
I SAID, ANN, RELAX, I'VE GOT IT COVERED.
UH, LET ME MAKE A CALL TO THE TWO COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS, MIKE MASON AND IN NORTH HAMPTON.
I SAID, LOOK, ALL THE LEGWORK IS DONE.
WE JUST, YOU NEED YOUR NAMES ON THE APPLICATION.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS TAKEN CARE OF.
SO IN A, IN AN HOUR, WE HAD THE WHOLE SITUATION SOLVED, MIKE SIGNED, CHARLIE SIGNED, AND THE APPLICATIONS WERE IN, IN THE QUEUE AND READY TO GO.
SO WE'RE GONNA NEED YOUR ASSISTANCE AGAIN ON THIS ONE LAST LEG FROM, WELL, NOT THE SECOND TO THE LAST LEG, UH, ONLY TO PARKS LEE, WHEN THAT ROUND IN 2026, UH, COMES OPEN, BECAUSE WE CAN'T MAKE THE APPLICATION, ONLY THE COUNTIES CAN.
BUT AGAIN, I WILL ASSURE YOU, WE'LL GET ALL THE LEG WORK DONE.
IT'LL JUST BE A MATTER OF A SIGNATURE, UH, TO GET THE APPLICATIONS OFF TO VDOT.
THIS IS, UH, A PICTURE AT RAY FIELDS'S PHARMACY IN CAPE CHARLES FIXED STREET.
THIS IS OUR FIRST SECTION OF THE TRAIL, AS I MENTIONED.
IT GOES FROM RAY FIELDS'S PHARMACY OUT THE RAIL.
CARTER BEHIND STONE ROAD, UH, BEHIND THE BREWERY, GOES ALL THE WAY OUT TO ROUTE 13.
IT MAKES A DOG LEG, UH, RIGHT GOING SOUTH DOWN TO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL IN FRONT OF ATLANTIC UNION BANK ON THE, UM, WEST SIDE AND FOOD LINE ON THE EAST SIDE.
SO AT THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL, THERE'LL BE PEDESTRIAN BUTTON CROSSING SIGNALS ON EITHER SIDE.
SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO PUSH A BUTTON, IT'LL STOP TRAFFIC FROM EITHER SIDE OF THE TRAIL, AND THEN YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SAFELY CROSS ROUTE 13.
UH, WE ALSO ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING A, UH, SAFE STREETS FOR ALL, UM, STUDY FOR THE ENTIRE SHORE, BOTH COUNTIES.
WHAT WHAT IT DOES REALLY IS IT LOOKS AT, UH, AREAS THAT, UH, HIGH CRASH IMPACT, UM, HIGH, UH, TRAFFIC VOLUME AND TRIES TO WORK OUT A WAY TO SOLVE SOME OF THOSE PROBLEMS. SO ROUTE 13, PARTICULARLY AT CAPE CHARLES, IS GONNA BE ONE INTERSECTION THAT WE'RE REALLY GONNA LOOK AT, BECAUSE WE KNOW EVEN WITH THE PUSH BUTTONS, THE SPEED AND TRAFFIC ON ROUTE 13, UM, IT, IT COULD CAUSE SOME PROBLEMS, BUT HOPEFULLY WITH THE HELP OF VDOT, WE'RE GONNA GET ALL THOSE THINGS WORKED OUT TO MAKE IT A VERY SAFE CROSSING, MIKE.
SO, AS I SAID, FROM RAY FIELDS'S PHARMACY, THIS IS LOOKING, UM, EAST GOING TOWARDS THE BREWERY IN ROUTE 13.
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THIS PICTURE, UH, YOU KNOW, BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS, WHEN I WENT DOWN THERE AND SAW WHAT, JUST THE SILT FENCE BEING UP, YOU KNOW, YOU WORK, YOU PLAN AND NOTHING, YOU DON'T SEE ANYTHING, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU SEE IT.I CALLED MY WIFE IN TEARS THAT FINALLY SOMETHING WAS REALLY GONNA HAPPEN.
REALITY SET IN, AND THE PROJECT IS REALLY GONNA HAPPEN, MIKE.
SO AGAIN, ANOTHER VIEW LOOKING, UH, TO THE WEST.
SO THIS AREA HERE IS GONNA BE A PARKING FACILITY ALONG THE TRAIL, RIGHT? RIGHT NOW WE HAVE PLANS AND IT'S FUNDED FOR FOUR TRAIL HEADS.
THIS WILL BE ONE, THERE'LL BE A PARKING FACILITY, THERE'LL BE BATHROOMS, BUT MOST IMPORTANT, THERE'S GONNA BE STAR TRANSIT BUS SHELTERS AT EACH OF THE TRAIL HEADS.
EACH STAR STAR TRANSIT BUS IS EQUIPPED WITH BIKE RACKS.
SO PEOPLE CAN NOW RIDE THE TRAIL TO A TRAIL HEAD, PUT THEIR BIKE ON A STAR TRANSIT BUS, AND THEN CONTINUE THEIR JOURNEY TO WHEREVER IT IS THEY NEED TO GO.
THE STAR TRANSIT BUSES RUN FROM CAPE CHARLES ALL THE WAY UP TO THE MARYLAND LINE.
UH, AND THEN THEY GO OFF OF 13 INTO MANY OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND THE SHORE.
SO PEOPLE WILL BE, WILL BE ABLE, THAT DON'T HAVE VEHICLES, WHICH IS A PRETTY HIGH NUMBER HERE ON THE SHORE, WILL BE ABLE TO RIDE A BIKE TO THE TRAIL, PUT THE BIKE ON A BUS, AND THEN WHEN THEY GET THERE TO THE NEXT STOP, THEY CAN GET TO THEIR FINAL DESTINATION BY BIKE AND THEN JUST REVERSE THE PROCESS TO GET BACK.
SO REALLY IS GONNA BE A FULL AND TOTAL MULTI TRAVEL NETWORK THAT WE'RE CREATING A MULTIMODAL NETWORK OF TRANSPORTATION.
SO AGAIN, ANOTHER LOOK, UH, THE BLUE CAR IS A, IS AN OLD RAIL CAR, BUT IT'S RIGHT BY THE BREWERY.
JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF, UH, WHERE WE ARE ALONG THE TRAIL.
OKAY, MIKE, AND OF COURSE, SHOVELS IN THE GROUND.
I THINK WE HAD AROUND 150 PEOPLE THERE.
UM, SO IT WAS A GREAT TURNOUT AND WE REALLY HAVE HAD A GREAT OUTPOURING FROM THE CITIZENS OF THE EASTERN SHORE.
AND TO GIVE YOU JUST AN IDEA OF HOW RECEPTIVE PEOPLE ARE TO THIS IDEA OF THE TRAIL, INITIALLY WHEN VDOT DID THEIR FIRST, UM, KIND OF STUDY OF THE TRAIL, THEY PUT OUT A QUESTIONNAIRE AND THERE WERE OVER 3,400 RESPONSES.
AND OF THOSE 3,400, ALMOST 99% OF PEOPLE THAT FILLED OUT THE QUESTIONNAIRE SAID THEY WOULD USE THE TRAIL.
AND LIKE I SAY, IN, IN THE TALKS THAT WE GIVE, UM, EVERYBODY IS REALLY, REALLY POSITIVE.
UH, I'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD SEVERAL TIMES, AND NORTH HAMPTON GOTTEN RESOLUTIONS OF SUPPORT FROM BOTH COUNTIES AND FROM ALL THE INCORPORATED TOWNS ALONG THE TRAIL.
THEY REALLY SEE THE BENEFIT, UH, PARTICULARLY OF WHAT IT'S GONNA DO TO TRY TO REVITALIZE THEIR TOWNS ONCE THE TRACKS WERE PULLED UP.
BUT ALSO WHEN RE ROUTE 13 BYPASSED ALL THE TOWNS, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE KIND OF LEFT ON THEIR OWN.
BUT WE SEE THIS AS, AS A MEANS TO REVITALIZE THEM.
ANY QUESTIONS I'D BE GLAD TO TRY TO ANSWER? MR. MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. MR. WOLF? UH, I'VE ASKED THIS QUESTION EVERY TIME YOU'VE BEEN HERE AND, AND THE, I JUST, I'M JUST ASKING AGAIN TO MAKE SURE THE ANSWER IS THE SAME.
SO FAR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OVER A $40 MILLION PROJECT.
IT'LL BE MORE IF, IF YOU END UP IN HARWOOD.
WILL THE COUNTY WILL EITHER COUNTY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE OF THAT HUGE PROJECT? NO.
UM, SO BUILT INTO OUR, OUR PLAN, UH, FOR THE FOUNDATION.
AND, AND WE DID A LOT OF WORK PARTICULARLY ON THIS MAINTENANCE ISSUE, UM, LOOKING AT OTHER TRAILS WITHIN THE COMMONWEALTH AND THROUGHOUT OUR NEIGHBORING STATES, UH, JUST TO GET A REAL GOOD IDEA OF WHAT MAINTENANCE COSTS ARE.
AND WE ANTICIPATE MAINTENANCE ABOUT $150,000 A YEAR.
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NOW, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, FROM THE ONSET IT'S GONNA BE A NEW TRAIL AND HOPEFULLY WE WON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE HIGH DOLLAR TYPE MAINTENANCE ISSUES FOR SOME TIME.UM, WHAT WE FORESEE IS, YOU KNOW, TRASH CLEANUP, SPRAYING, UH, MOWING, THAT TYPE OF THING.
BUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO COME TO THE COUNTIES, WAIT A MINUTE.
I SAID ENSURE WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT.
UM, SO THAT $150,000 THAT WE ANTICIPATE FOR THE NEXT THREE TO FIVE YEARS FROM THE ONSET OF THE TRAIL, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DIP INTO THAT.
SO WE'RE GONNA BUILD UP A CASH RESERVE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO USE WHEN SOMETHING MAJOR DOES HAPPEN, LIKE TREE ROOTS COMING UP THROUGH THE ASPHALT, UM, A MAJOR HURRICANE, GOD FORBID, WHERE, YOU KNOW, TREES COME DOWN AND WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH THAT.
SO WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THAT BUILDUP.
AND, AND I KNOW MR. CROCKETT, YOU'RE THE PENNY PINCHER HERE, SO, UH, WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT COME BACK AND ASK YOU FOR ANYTHING, BUT YOUR ANSWER IS NO, RIGHT?
I'M CURIOUS, WHAT WOULD BE THE TIME THAT THE TRAIL WILL BE OPEN? WOULD IT BE OPENING TIME OR CLOSING TIME FOR THE TRAIL TO BE USED? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
AND WE'VE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, OTHER TRAILS TO SEE WHAT THEY DO.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA REINVENT THE WHEEL HERE.
THERE'S, THERE'S TRAILS EVERYWHERE AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S EXAMPLES OF WHAT THEY DO AND WE LOOK AT 'EM.
UM, I WOULD SAY FOR THE MOST PART, FOR THE VERY BEGINNING, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT DAWN TO DUSK, UM, LIGHTING.
THE ONLY PLACE THAT THERE MIGHT BE LIGHTING WOULD BE IN THE TRAIL HEADS, THE PARKING AREAS, BATHROOM FACILITIES.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE SUMMER MONTHS WHEN THE TRAIL'S GONNA BE USED, THE MOST, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT THE LONGER DAYS.
SO IT MIGHT BE ADEQUATE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT WE ANTICIPATE ON THE TRAIL.
AND WILL THERE BE ANY TYPE OF SECURITY NEEDED? SO FROM THE TRAILS THAT, AGAIN, THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT, THEY DON'T ACTUALLY PROVIDE SECURITY FOR THE TRAIL.
UM, WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FROM THE VERY ONSET OF THIS WHOLE IDEA TO, UH, YOU KNOW, ENSURE THAT THEY WOULD RESPOND IF THERE WAS ANY TYPE OF NEED ALONG THE TRAIL.
AND AS THE FORMER SHERIFF, YOU KNOW, THE TRAIL IS WITHIN BOTH COUNTIES AND THE OBLIGATION OF THE SHERIFF IS TO RESPOND WITHIN THE COUNTY.
SO THE TRAIL REALLY IS, IS NOT GONNA BE ANY DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER STATE ROAD IN THE COUNTY.
SO WE'VE GOT AN ASSURANCE FROM BOTH SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENTS THAT THEY WILL RESPOND.
I GOT A CALL FROM NORTH HAMPTON EMS YESTERDAY, WANTING TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, HOW WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE TRAIL IF AN AMBULANCE WAS NEEDED? UH, WOULD AN AMBULANCE BE TOO TALL IF THERE WERE OVERHANGING TREES ALONG THE TRAIL? SO THESE ARE ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO WORK OUT.
AND IN, IN TALKING WITH NORTH HAMPTON, EMS YESTERDAY, THEY EVEN TALKED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF LOOKING FOR GRANTS THAT WOULD, UM, PROVIDE 'EM WITH LIKE AN A TV THAT COULD, YOU KNOW, RESPOND AS AN AMBULANCE.
THEY'D BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, CART A, A PATIENT OUT IF NEED BE.
SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT A LOT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT.
AND THE IDEA OF MAYBE PARTNERING WITH THE EMS AND, AND I, I SEE THAT MR. PRUITT'S HERE TOO, UM, WHERE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE ARE SOME GRANTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US AS THE FOUNDATION THAT WE COULD USE, UH, YOU KNOW, TOWARDS AN EMS PROJECT.
SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BEGIN TO EXPLORE WHO ACTUALLY OWNS THE TRAIL.
THE TRAIL IS ACTUALLY OWNED BY KENNI, THE RAILROAD COMPANY.
UM, THEY HAVE LEASED THE TRAIL TO THE FOUNDATION.
UM, JUST REAL BRIEFLY, WHEN WE PULLED THE TRACKS UP, WE RAIL BANKED THE ENTIRE CARTER.
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UM, UTILITIES THAT RUN ALONG THE CARTER, THE EASTERN SHORE BROADBAND AUTHORITY.THEIR FIBER OPTIC MAIN TRUNK RUNS DOWN THE CARTER.
AND NOW ALSO, UM, HAMPTON ROAD SANITATION.
UH, THEY HAVE A, UH, A MAIN FORCE LINE THAT RUNS ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
THE ACTUAL TRAIL ITSELF IS GONNA BE A 10 FOOT WIDE PAVED ASPHALT THAT'LL GO THE ENTIRE 50 MILES.
IS THAT COUNTY PROPERTY OR SAFE PROPERTY OR
SO IT IS, IT IS PRIVATELY OWNED.
AND, AND IT'S GOOD THAT YOU ASKED THE QUESTION.
FROM THE VDOT STANDPOINT, IT'S EVEN BETTER FOR US BECAUSE WE OWN IT.
THE STATE DOESN'T HAVE TO BUY ANYTHING, UNLIKE SOME OTHER TRAILS.
UH, ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT COMES TO MIND IS OUT IN THE SHENANDOAH VALLEY, THERE'S A BIG BATTLE GOING ON NOW BETWEEN WHETHER THEY WANT TO HAVE A RAIL TO TRAIL OR A RAIL WITH TRAILS, WHICH RAILS WITH TRAILS MEANS THE TRAIN IS STILL IN OPERATION AND THE TRAIL RUNS ALONGSIDE IT.
SO THERE'S A BIG DEBATE GOING ON.
BUT THE OTHER THING IS VDOT WOULD HAVE TO BUY ALL THE PROPERTY.
AND SO THAT IS ONE PROBLEM THAT WE DON'T HAVE AND VDOT DOESN'T HAVE, OR THE COUNTIES.
MR. UM, TO, TO MY COLLEAGUES' POINTS THOUGH, I THINK WHERE YOU'RE GONNA SEE FROM MY EXPERIENCE BEING ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT TRAILS IN DIFFERENT STATES, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A, A, A MONETARY IMPACT ON THE COUNTY OR THE TOWNS IS YOU'VE MENTIONED ATVS AND OTHER THINGS.
I MEAN, IT'S ALMOST AN UNFUNDED MONDAY MANDATE FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE CALLS AND HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT THERE.
AND YOU'RE, I ASSUME YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BLOCK VEHICLE ACCESS SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE POLICE CRUISER OR REGULAR VEHICLE GOING DOWN THE TRAIL.
UM, SO I MEAN, THEY, ONE SECOND THEY COULD MR. WOLF.
SO, UH, I COULD TELL YOU THAT FOR INSTANCE, IN GEORGIA, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SILVER COMET TRAIL, THEY HAVE BOLLARDS THEY HAD, AND THEY HAD TO PUT THE BOLLARDS 'CAUSE THEY HAD VEHICLE INCIDENTS COMING OUT ON THERE.
AND THAT WAS AN ADDITIONAL COST.
AND THE LOCAL TOWNS ALONG THE TRAIL ENDED UP HAVING TO FUND SECURITY AND EMS SUPPORT, BASICALLY, UH, INCLUDING CUSTOMIZED.
NOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT CUSTOMIZED BY ANY MEANS, BUT IT'S, IT'S A CONSIDERATION THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO WATCH.
AND BALLARDS ARE GONNA BE PART OF THE TRAIL.
UH, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE PUT ON THE TRAIL IS THAT THERE WILL BE NO MOTORIZED VEHICLES, NO MOTORCYCLES, NO FOUR WHEELERS, NO ATVS, NO GOLF CARTS.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE BALLARDS ARE GONNA BE IN PLACE TO WHAT ABOUT E-BIKES? E-BIKES ARE GONNA BE ALLOWED, BUT THERE'S TWO CLASS OF E-BIKES, RIGHT? ONE THAT RUNS LIKE 30 MILES AN HOUR, ONE THAT RUNS, YOU KNOW, FIVE TO 10, MAYBE 15.
SO WE'VE HAD SOME VERY HEALTHY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT E-BIKES AT OUR MEETINGS.
BUT AGAIN, THE BALLARDS, UH, INTERESTING THAT YOU BRING THEM UP.
UM, I KNOW I SHOULDN'T SAY THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, IF THE BALLARDS ARE THERE TO PREVENT, SAY, GOLF CARTS FROM GETTING ONTO THE TRAIL, PARTICULARLY AT CAPE CHARLES WHERE GOLF CARTS ARE EXTREMELY PREVALENT, THEY COULD GO 20 FEET DOWN THE TRAIL AND JUST ACCESS THE TRAIL WITH NO BOLLARDS.
RIGHT? UM, YOU KNOW, MY IDEA WOULD BE WITH ALL THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE HAVE NOW, THAT THEY OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO LAY A STRIP ACROSS THE TRAIL THAT WOULD ZAP THE ENERGY OUT OF THE BATTERIES OF THE GOLF CARTS AND RENDER 'EM USELESS.
NOW, WHETHER SOMEBODY CAN COME WOULD, THAT WOULD BE EXPENSIVE.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE IDEA OF KEEPING MOTORIZED VEHICLES OFF THE TRAIL, IT WOULD DEFEAT THE WHOLE PURPOSE IF WE ALLOWED THEM ON, BECAUSE IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE THAT WE WANT TO AVOID AND WANT TO CREATE THE TRAIL SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO COMPETE WITH THE AUTOMOBILES ON ROUTE 13 OR ROUTE, UH, THREE 16.
SO THAT'S WHY NO MOTORIZED VEHICLES ON THE TRAIL.
THE OTHER THING ABOUT BALLARDS, A LOT, A LOT OF THEM THAT WE'VE SEEN, THEY CAN BE RECESSED, RIGHT? OR HINGED, RIGHT? SO IF YOU DO NEED AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE, THEY, THEY DO HAVE THAT ACCESS, BUT YOU STILL HAVE CORRECT.
AND, AND, AND THEY CAN GET CRAZY EXPENSIVE OR YES, LESS EXPENSIVE, BUT YOU STILL RUN INTO WHO HAS THE KEYS AND WHO HAS ACCESS.
AND THAT WAS MY FOLLOW UP, WAS THAT RIGHT? IS I UNDERSTAND NO MOTORIZED VEHICLES, BUT HOW IS HRSD AND AND EASTER SHORE BROADBAND GONNA ACCESS THEIR UTILITY? SO AGAIN, THE CARTER'S
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66 FEET WIDE, THE TRAIL IS 10 FEET, SO THEY'VE GOT ACCESS ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ACTUAL FEED.SO THAT IS VEHICLE ACCESS ON THE SIDES.
HAVE WE DONE A SAFETY AND SECURITY STUDY? THANK OF THE TRAIL, UM, VDOT IN THEIR INITIAL, UH, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE TRAIL AND, AND HOW IT'S DEVELOPED.
THEY HAVE PROBABLY NOT TO THE EXTENT THAT WOULD SATISFY YOU.
I'M LIKE THAT
AND YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THE CALL FROM EMS YESTERDAY FROM NORTH HAMPTON KIND OF RAISED MY AWARENESS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE A, A DEEPER DIVE INTO HOW THIS IS ALL GONNA WORK.
I, I, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU, I'D BE GLAD TO HELP IN ANY WAY I COULD.
WE MIGHT, WE MIGHT ELICIT YOU.
ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU MR. WOLF.
YOU, AS I SAID, GREAT TO BE HERE.
GLAD YOU BROUGHT, I'M GLAD YOU CAME.
ANY, ANY TIME IF, IF THERE'S A CONCERN OR QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, PLEASE CONTACTED ME.
WE'LL BE GLAD TO WORK OUT WHATEVER ISSUES WE MIGHT HAVE.
WE'RE GONNA START SOME MORE DISCUSSION ON THE STORM DRAINAGE AND DITCH MAINTENANCE POLICY, UH, STATEMENT AND GENERAL OPERATING GUIDELINES, MR. HALL.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
SO BACK TO THE, UH, DITCH MAINTENANCE POLICY AT THE, UH, LAST BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING IN MAY, WE PRESENTED SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON REVISIONS TO THIS POLICY.
AND, UM, WE HAD A CONSIDERABLE DISCUSSION, OR THE, THE BOARD MEMBERS HAD A CONSIDERABLE DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, CERTAIN PIECES OF IT, AND PARTICULARLY THE PROPERTY EASEMENTS, UH, REFERRING TO PERPETUAL VERSUS TEMPORARY EASEMENTS AND WHAT MIGHT BE AN APPROPRIATE, UH, PERIOD OF TIME FOR THOSE TO BE VALID.
UH, THE VERSION OF THE POLICY THAT'S ATTACHED TO THIS AGENDA, WE DID INCORPORATE, UM, EASEMENTS, TEMPORARY EASEMENTS FOR A PERIOD OF FOUR YEARS.
AND WE, UH, TOOK OUT THE EXCEPTION BASIS THERE.
SO THAT I BELIEVE, UM, MR. CROCKETT MENTIONED, UM, IF YOU DO FOR ONE, YOU, YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO DO FOR ALL.
SO, UM, IT JUST, UM, STATES THAT WE WILL NEED A TEMPORARY FOUR YEAR EASEMENT TO DO FUTURE WORK, UH, IN DITCHES AND MOVING ALONG, UM, PUT TOGETHER THIS SLIDE.
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF, A LOT OF THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED, BUT JUST SOME OF THE, THE BIG PROS AND CONS IN MY MIND AS WE TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF EASEMENTS.
UH, SOME OF THE PROS FOR PERPETUAL, UM, EASE AND TIMELINESS OF FUTURE ACCESS TO INSPECTOR.
PERFORM MAINTENANCE, MEANING YOU DON'T NEED TO GO BACK, UM, HAVE DOCUMENTS, UM, PREPARED AND SIGNED AND NOTARIZED AND RECORDED.
UM, IT ALSO PROVIDES PRODUCTIVE USE OF STAFF TIME.
UM, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN PARTICULAR INVEST, UM, A LOT OF TIME IN THE, UH, LANDOWNER RESEARCH AND PREPARING THE DOCUMENTS.
AND ALSO, UM, IT ENSURES OUR, OUR PUBLIC RESOURCE ARE INVEST IN AREAS WHERE THEY CAN HAVE THE LONGEST LASTING EFFECTS.
UM, SO THE, THE UPFRONT WORK WOULD HAVE A LOT OF VALUE, UM, OVER FUTURE YEARS.
AND THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO, TO GO BACK AND DO THOSE PRELIMINARY STEPS BE BEFORE WE COULD INSPECT OR MAINTAIN CONS.
AND THIS IS A BIG ONE, CAME OUT LOUD AND CLEAR IN THE LAST MEETING.
UH, MANY LANDOWNERS ARE RELUCTANT TO SIGN.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, PERPETUAL IS IS PERPETUAL.
AND ALSO IT'S A, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LARGE LEGAL DOCUMENT.
SO, UH, THE THE NEXT BULLET SPEAKS TO THAT.
UH, SOME LANDOWNERS MAY FEEL THE NEED TO ENGAGE AN ATTORNEY TO REVIEW IT ON THEIR BEHALF, UM, WHICH IS ADDITIONAL TIME, TIME AND EXPENSE EXPENSE ON THEIR PART AND TIME FOR BOTH PARTIES BEFORE ACTUAL WORK COULD BE DONE.
AND, UM, THE LAST ONE I HAVE HERE, PERPETUAL EASEMENTS MAY GIVE LANDOWNERS AN EXPECTATION THAT COUNTY STAFF WILL INSPECT AND PERFORM WORK ON A MORE FREQUENT BASIS THAN IS ACHIEVABLE WITH AVAILABLE RESOURCES.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ENTIRETY OF OUR, UH, DITCH MAINTENANCE IS, IS WELL, A PORTION OF JEREMY'S TIME AND, AND ALL OF BILL'S TIME.
SO, YOU KNOW, WITH 450 SQUARE MILES OF MIMA COUNTY, UM, THEY'RE NOT GOING OUT TO EVERY DITCH AFTER EVERY RAIN AND SAID, OH, THERE'S A FEW BRANCHES THERE BY THAT CULVERT.
WE BETTER GET THOSE CLEANED OUT.
SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
AND THAT'S ACTUALLY ALL THE SLIDES I HAD.
UM, IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION, ASK ANY QUESTIONS, BUT THE, THE LATEST REVISION THERE DOES HAVE THE FOUR YEAR TEMPORARY.
I HOPE EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE, UH, THE NEW VERBIAGE THAT THAT WAS ADDED.
UM, SO ANY COMMENTS? YEAH, GOT ONE READY.
I THINK, I THINK THE, THE BIG CHANGE IS THE, IT'S AN END TO THE EASEMENT.
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A LOT MORE SUCCESS IN GETTING PEOPLE TO, UH, ALLOW THE COUNTY TO COME ON THE PROPERTY TO.SO, I, I LIKE THE FOUR YEAR, UH, EASEMENT.
I TALKED TO SEVERAL LARGE LANDOWNERS OF 3000, 5,000 ACRES, AND THEIR POSITION WAS QUITE CLEAR.
WE'LL DO TWO, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO FOUR, AND WE'LL NEVER GIVE A PERMANENT EASEMENT BECAUSE IT, IT HAS TOO MUCH EFFECT ON THEIR LAND VALUE.
SO, AND THOSE GUYS PROBABLY REPRESENT A LOT OF THE LARGE LANDOWNER'S PHILOSOPHY.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S JUST WHAT I WAS TOLD.
RIGHT? YES, MR. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO COME IN, UM, MR. HALL AND THE STAFF FOR, UH, THE UPDATED REVISIONS.
ANYTHING? I WAS GONNA SAY, I THINK, UM, YEAH, I THINK THE FOUR, AGAIN, WE'RE GOING FROM A PERPETUAL EASEMENT TO A FOUR YEAR EASEMENT.
AND, AND, AND EVEN IF SOME PEOPLE THINK, WELL, I DON'T WANNA DO THAT, HERE'S A SERVICE THAT YOU CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF.
AND IT'S A FOUR YEAR EASEMENT, AND FOUR YEARS IS, IS LENGTH OF OUR TERM.
SO I THINK IT'S A HUGE STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
I DO WANT TO ASK THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, DOES THIS IMPACT PEOPLE WHO HAVE PREVIOUSLY SIGNED THE PERPETUAL? NO.
THIS WOULD REMAIN IN EFFECT PERPETUAL FOR THEM.
SO THEY WOULD, THEIR PERPETUAL WOULD REMAIN IN EFFECT.
HOW DIFFICULT WOULD IT BE TO MAKE IT RETROACTIVE? IN OTHER WORDS, CONTACT THEM AND ASK THEM IF THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT TO A, UH, IT, IT, BOTH PARTIES WOULD'VE TO AGREE.
THEY WOULD'VE TO AGREE AND THE COUNTY WOULD'VE TO AGREE.
I I, I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE, UH, RETROACTIVE IF THE LANDOWNER WISHES TO, UH, TO HAVE THAT.
THERE HAVE BEEN DOZENS AND DOZENS OF THESE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT BEFORE I GOT HERE, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY MAKE A LIST AND, AND MAKE AN EFFORT.
I BELIEVE ONE, ONE NUMBER I HEARD WAS AROUND 70.
I WAS GONNA ASK, I WAS GONNA ASK, IS THAT WHAT YEAH.
AROUND 70 PERPETUAL HAVE BEEN RECORDED.
WE REALLY NEED A LOT MORE
SO WOULD THERE BE A WAY TO MAKE IT A BLANKET? COULD THE BOARD TAKE ACTION AND REMOVE THOSE? NO.
YOU, YOU WOULD HAVE TO RECORD IT IN THE COURTHOUSE.
'CAUSE THE EASEMENTS ARE CURRENTLY RECORDED IN THE COURTHOUSE.
SO I THINK PROBABLY THE EASIEST WAY TO DO IT IS IF THE BOARD IS WILLING TO GO THIS ROUTE WOULD BE JUST MAKE IT KNOWN.
THAT IF THE PROPERTY OWNER WISHES TO CHANGE FROM A PERPETUAL, I THINK THAT'S BETTER EASEMENT TO AFFORD YOUR EASEMENT CONTACT THE, UH, CONTACT ACCOUNTING.
WE WOULD NEED TO, WE WOULD NEED TO DRAW THAT PROCESS OUT FOR THEM.
SO WHEN THEY DO COME, HERE'S THE, HERE'S THE STEP YOU'VE GOTTA DO.
WOULD YOU WANT THAT IN TWO MOTIONS? ONE MOTION TO APPROVE THE, THE CHANGES AND THEN ANOTHER MOTION TO, UH, UH, TO ALLOW, UH, PERPETUAL LANDOWNERS TO, TO, IF THEY SO WISH TO COME IN AND, AND, AND CHANGE IT TO A, UH, A FOUR YEAR REASON, THAT WOULD BE PREFERABLE TO HAVE TOO, TOO MOTION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A MOTION.
I MOVE THAT THE, UH, THAT WE APPROVE, UH, THE PRESENTATION, UH, CONCERNING CHANGING IN REFERENCE TO, UH, DITCH MAINTENANCE, UH, THE PERPETUAL EASEMENT TO A FOUR YEAR, UH, EASEMENT.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A SECOND MOTION.
MR. MR. CROCKETT TO, TO ALLOW THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO HAVE SIGNED THE PERPETUAL EASEMENT, THE, UH, THE ABILITY TO CONTACT THE COUNTY TO CHANGE THEIR PERPETUAL, UH, EASEMENT TO A FOUR YEAR EASEMENT.
UM, HOW ARE WE GONNA NOTIFY THE PUBLIC? ARE WE GOING HELP? JUST, JUST BY MEDIA? BY WE DO BY ME.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT WASN'T, I JUST DIDN'T WANT, JUST THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
I MEAN, HOW DIFFICULT WOULD IT BE TO SEND THEM A LETTER? A A DRAFTED LETTER? IT'S GONNA BE A FORM LETTER.
SO, SO WE CAN PULL THE ADDRESS OFF THE TAX MAP, I SUPPOSE.
NEXT THING, UH, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF WATCH BREAK AMBULANCE PURCHASE AGREEMENT.
MIKE MASON, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
I, IF I, IF I CAN, UM, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS SORT OF, UH, 9.2, WHICH IS CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE WATCH PER AMBULANCE PURCHASE AGREEMENT ALONG WITH, UH, 9.3 MM-HMM
WHICH IS CONSIDER APPROVING LEASE, UH, WITH PAINTER VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY TO HOUSE THOSE AMBULANCES.
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YES, SIR.SO THESE, THESE, UH, TWO DOCUMENTS, THE, UH, PURCHASE AGREEMENT AND THE LEASE ARE NECESSARY IF ON JULY 1ST, WHICH IS OUR PLAN, SORT OF IMPLEMENTATION DATE, THE COUNTY IS GOING TO ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY FOR PROVIDING ALL AMBULANCE SERVICES AT THE SOUTHERN END OF THE COUNTY.
AND, AND AGAIN, THIS IS IN RESPONSE, UH, RIGG, UH, VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY AFTER YEARS OF SERVICE IS, UH, NO LONGER GONNA BE RUNNING AMBULANCE SERVICES.
AND WE ARE SORT OF STEPPING IN.
WE, WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDING THE, THE FTES TO DO THAT OVER THE YEARS, BUT WE DID NOT, WE DIDN'T OWN THE AMBULANCES.
NOW WE'RE TAKING THOSE ADDITIONAL STEPS, DEFINING OUR RATES.
UM, SO EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST, THE WAY THESE AGREEMENTS ARE, ARE SET UP, WE WOULD IN EARNEST BEGIN DOING ALL THOSE SERVICES.
SO THAT WOULD MEAN JULY 1ST WE HAVE THE VEHICLES JULY 1ST.
WE HAD THE PROPERTY TO HOUSE THOSE VEHICLES JULY 1ST, OR WHEN OUR, THE RATES THAT THE BOARD APPROVED, UM, AT, UH, UH, A FEW MEETINGS AGO, UH, BECOME EFFECTIVE.
AND JULY 1ST IS ALSO WHEN OUR INSURANCE KICKS IN FOR ALL THESE ADDITIONAL SERVICES THAT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE NOW PROVIDING.
SO, UH, AGAIN, WE'RE ASKING, UH, FOR THE BOARD TO APPROVE BOTH OF THOSE DOCUMENTS.
UH, YOU PREVIOUSLY HAD AUTHORIZED ME TO, UH, PURSUE THEM.
NEGOTIATE, UH, DIRECTOR PRUITT HAS MET WITH ALL THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS, RIGG AND PAINTER.
WE SEEM TO HAVE WORKED THROUGH ALL OF OUR ISSUES.
AND THESE DOCUMENTS ARE READY FOR APPROVAL.
MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PURCHASE THE TWO AMBULANCES FROM WA PR FILE TO FIRE COMPANY.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION PROPERLY SECONDED ON 9.2, WHICH IS APPROVAL OF WATCH PRE AMBULANCE PURCHASE, UH, ON FAVOR.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT YOU, UH, APPROVE THE LEASE SUBPOENA OF VOLUNTEER FILE COMPANY SECOND TO HOUSE OF AMBULANCE.
WE HAVE A MOTION PROPERLY SECONDED ON CONSIDERING APPROVAL OF THE LEASE WITH THE, UM, PAINTER VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY.
UH, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF 1.5% EMPLOYEE BONUS FOR ALL REGULAR SCHEDULED AND HOURS WORK DRIVEN, A BONUS FOR ACTIVE PART-TIME COUNTY EMPLOYEES AS OPPOSED TO JUST FULL-TIME STATE SUPPORTED LOCAL EMPLOYEES EFFECTIVE 7 1 25.
MS. LEWIS, MR. CHAIR? YES, GO AHEAD.
I'M GONNA READ THE DISCLOSURE, PLEASE.
AND BECAUSE I WORK FOR ACK COUNTY, I HAVE A PERSONAL INTEREST IN ANY DECISION RELATING TO EMPLOYEE BONUSES.
I UNDERSTAND THAT I'M ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THESE MATTERS UNDER VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 2.2 DASH THREE 12 B ONE.
BECAUSE I'M A MEMBER OF A PROFESSION, OCCUPATION, OR GROUP OF THREE OR MORE PERSONS AFFECTED BY THESE TRANSACTIONS, I'M ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THESE TRANSACTIONS FAIRLY OBJECTIVELY AND IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST.
CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIR, MEMBER OF THE BOARD.
I'M HERE TONIGHT FOR YOU TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE 1.5% EMPLOYEE BONUS.
UM, BASED ON OUR PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON MAY 21ST, 2025, A 1.5% EMPLOYEE BONUS FOR THE REMAINING REGULARLY SCHEDULED EMPLOYEES WOULD PREVENT EMPLOYEES WITHIN THE SAME OFFICE FROM RECEIVING DIFFERENT TREATMENT.
AS THE STATE RECENTLY REVISED THEIR FY 25 BUDGET TO INCLUDE A 1.5% BONUS TO ALLSTATE EMPLOYEES AND STATE SUPPORTED LOCAL EMPLOYEES, THIS ACTION WOULD ADOPT A 1.5% BONUS FOR THE REMAINING REGULARLY SCHEDULED EMPLOYEES IN AIMA COUNTY ACTIVE AS OF JUNE 18TH, 2025.
AND IN YOUR BOARD PACKET WAS A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF THE BONUS TO THE COUNTY AND STATE SUPPORTED LOCAL POSITIONS AND FY 26 AND ALSO AS A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE ENABLING EMPLOYEE BONUS.
AND THIS WAS ADOPTED DECEMBER 15TH, 2010 ON BEHALF TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS QUESTION, MR. CHAIR? YES.
VICE CHAIR? UH, THE 1.5, UH, EMPLOYEE BONUS IS A CONTINGENT ON THE PERSON'S ANNUAL SALARY.
THE ANNUAL SALARY IS GOING TO CHANGE JULY ONE.
SO WILL THE ANNUAL SALARY INCLUDE THE 3% FOR THE BONUS OR WILL NOT? IT WILL INCLUDE, IT WILL INCLUDE THE FUTURE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I A QUESTION? I HAVE A MOTION.
DO WE APPROVE THE ATTACHED RESOLUTION? AUTHORIZE EMPLOYEE BONUSES FOR FY 26 AND AMEND AND APPROPRIATING THE FY 26 COUNTY BUDGET TO PAY FOR THE COST OF THIS ACTION.
SO NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS APPOINTMENTS.
WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD LIST OF OF APPOINTMENTS TODAY, SO WE'RE GONNA GO OVER THESE.
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JUST READ 'EM OFF AS AS I GO, AS I GO DOWN THE LIST HERE.THE FIRST ONE, UH, ACTUALLY THE FIRST SECTION IS THE, UH, PARKS AND RECREATE RECREATION ADVISOR COMMISSION.
UM, WE STILL HAVE AN OPENING FROM DISTRICT FOUR, UH, FOR KAY LEWIS, WHICH IS RESIGNED, RIGHT? IT'S GONNA DEFER AGAIN.
UH, ON, UH, ON DISTRICT SEVEN, I AM FINALLY GLAD TO SAY I HAVE AN, UH, A CANDIDATE I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE BARBARA ANN MILES TO THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY COMMISSION.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND PROPERLY SECONDED, UH, TO, UH, ADD BARBARA R. MILES TO THE, UH, PARKS AND REC ADVISORY COMMISSION.
ALSO, WE HAVE SOME REAPPOINTMENTS.
I'M GONNA READ ALL THREE OF THESE.
UH, THESE ARE FOR THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY COMMISSION.
THEY'LL BE HAROLD WHITE, DISTRICT THREE.
GARY, UH, GARY MILLER, DISTRICT TWO, AND GERALD PITT FROM DISTRICT EIGHT.
WE'LL DO ALL IF WE HAVE A, IF I HAVE A I'LL A MOTION TO DO ALL THREE.
UH, WE DO HAVE THREE, UH, OPENINGS AND THE BOARD CAN, UH, START BRAINSTORMING ON THAT FOR THE BOARD OF, UH, THE, UH, SOCIAL SERVICE BOARD.
WE HAD THE NEW POSITIONS THAT WE, UH, WE ADDED ACTUALLY LAST MONTH.
UH, ONE, ONE IS A CITIZENS MEMBER, WHICH IS AT LARGE.
YEAH, IT IS ACTUALLY THROUGH THE TWO, UH, VICE, UH, IT'S TWO.
BUT I KNOW IT'S SAYING THREE HERE, BUT I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY TWO.
THE, UH, I COME BACK COUNTY WETLANDS BOARD, UH, UH, REAPPOINTMENT OF GEORGE, UH, WARD JUNIOR.
MOTION CARRIES NORTHAMPTON PLANNING DISTRICT COMMISSION.
UH, A REAPPOINTMENT OF, UH, GWENDOLYN, UH, TURNER.
A MOTION CARRIES ALSO ON THE NORTHAMPTON, UH, PLANNING DISTRICT COMMISSION.
WE HAVE A MOTION PROPERLY SECONDED TO REAPPOINT DONNA SMITH.
ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED? WE HAVE A, EXCUSE ME.
A, UH, AREA AGENCY, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, ACTION, UH, AGENCY.
UH, TO BE REAPPOINTED, I'M GOING TO REAPPOINT HER.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION, PROBABLY SECOND TO, UH, REAPPOINT NA UH, INE GREENLEY, UH, EASTERN SHORE COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD.
WE HAVE, UH, WE DO HAVE A, I'M SORRY.
UH, COMMUNITY, UH, COMMUNITY COLLEGE ADVISORY BOARD.
WE DO HAVE A, UH, WE DO HAVE A, UH, OPENING THERE.
SO ANYONE, ANYBODY HAS A RECOMMENDATION? WE ALSO HAVE TWO, I THINK TWO, THREE.
I, I MOVE THAT WE REAPPOINT, UH, BRITTANY RUSSELL.
TAYLOR, DIANE KING, AND NICK SHA.
VIRGINIA GROUNDWATER COMMITTEE, UH, REPORT.
I GOT A QUESTION ABOUT THIS NEXT ONE.
I, I DON'T, NEXT TO NEXT AIN'T DONE NOTHING.
BEFORE YOU REGIONAL, UH, NAVIGABLE WATERWAYS COMMITTEE.
I, I MOVE WE REAPPOINT MR. DONALD HART.
SECOND WILLIAM TARR AND BEVERLY DAVIS.
AND WE DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
SO, UH, MOTION PROPERLY SECONDED, UH, TO REAPPOINT DONALD HART JR.
AND WILLIAM BILLY JOE TAR TO THE, UH, NAVIGABLE WATERWAYS COMMITTEE.
AND THE LAST ONE WOULD BE WORK FACE WORKFORCE INVESTMENT BOARD.
I BEVERLY DAVIS TO THE, UH, WORKFORCE INVESTMENT BOARD.
UH, BACK TO THE SOCIAL SERVICES BOARD.
I THINK THERE'S SOME MIX UP THERE BECAUSE DISTRICT EIGHT AND NINE DO NOT HAVE AN APPOINTEE.
MS. MAJOR IS THE BOARD APPOINTEE.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, IF I REMEMBER, THAT'S WHAT I, I THINK I MADE THE MOTION.
IT WAS ONE FROM EVERY MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT.
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AT LARGE.ISN'T THAT WHAT I DID? THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I DID.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, FROM DISTRICT 89 AND HERE IT DOESN'T HAVE US LISTED.
BUT YOU ARE, I WAS TOLD YOU ARE GONNA BE DISTRICT, YOU'RE GONNA BE LEAD DISTRICT REP.
WELL, I'M THERE ON NOW I'M ON IT DOWN.
HE'S THE, HE'S THE LEAD DISTRICT REP.
AND IS THERE ANYBODY ON THERE FROM ATLANTIC MAT TOMKIN? YEP.
ATLANTIC IS, UM, MR. UM, BUD MARTIN.
UH, THEN IT'S, UH, THE SECOND DISTRICT IS, UH, MR. NO TONKIN WOULD BE KIN TONKIN.
THAT WAS THE LADY THAT WE MS. WHITE.
MS. WHITE TOKIN WOULD COMPLIES OF UH RIGHT.
WE COMPRISED OF MR. PARKS AND WHO, SO THAT'S MANY WHITE, WHITE.
BUT THEY HAD, I THINK WHAT THE CONFUSION IS, SHE MAY HAVE A PAINTER ADDRESS.
SO SHE, SHE IS TONKA, RIGHT? SHE LIVES PHYSICALLY IN TONKA DISTRICT.
SHE MAY GET HER MALE IN PAINTER BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SHE'S LIVED THERE FOR ALL HER LIFE.
SO SHE BASED, YOU KNOW, BUT SHE ACTUALLY LIVED WITH HER HUSBAND IN OMA DISTRICT.
SO WHY DON'T WE RESERVE ONE OF THESE TWO? AND SHE WAS APPOINTED BY MS. MARSHALL.
SO I'M SAYING IT NEEDS TO COME FROM THE LEAD DISTRICT DISTRICT.
WELL, WHY YOU AND AT LARGE WE NEED ONE AT LARGE.
WE PUNT, WE'LL RESERVE ONE AT LARGE AND RESERVE THE OTHER FOR PUNTE DISTRICT.
SO IS THERE A, A TOMPKIN A REQUIREMENT FOR SOMEBODY FROM A TOMPKIN OR NOT? I THINK ONE WE HAD, WE WERE LISTING THE VACANCY ON THERE.
SO I, I HAD SOMEBODY ELSE I WAS BRINGING IN, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO BUT YOU COULD BE AT LARGE.
YOU HAVE 'EM ALREADY? YOU HAVE ALREADY? UH, NO.
I, MS. TINA, YOU HAVE THAT DIANE, YOU HAVE THAT I HAVE TO CHANGE MS. WHITE'S ADDRESS.
SOCIAL SERVICES BOARD HAS HER PAPER.
WELL, SHE COULD, SHE COULD GET HER MAIL.
SHE HER MAIL AND YEAH, THAT'S, THAT WAS THE CONFUSION.
BUT SHE WAS APPOINTED BY MR. WASHINGTON.
SHE WAS BY WHY DOES SHE LIVE? NOT MR. WASHINGTON.
SHE STAYS OVER IN THE SEASIDE AREA.
SHE, I KNOW SHE LIVES WITH HER.
SHE RIGHT CROSS FROM THE, UH, MANOR.
BUT SHE MIGHT STILL GET HER MAILING PAYMENT.
SHE MAKES PEOPLE SOMETIMES DON'T CHANGE THEIR MAILING ADDRESS.
I THINK THAT'S WHY THE CONFUSION LIES.
WE GOOD? ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ALONG.
UH, LET'S, UH, 12 ONE, CONSIDER REQUEST TO HRSD TO EXPAND THE SEWING SERVICE AREA.
UH, I'M ASSUMING THAT MR. HALL, WE DON'T HAVE NO PUBLIC HEARING.
HEY, I LIKE THE TWO MINUTE, UH, DRILL.
I'M ACTUALLY GONNA BE TEAMING UP WITH MR. PBIT ON THIS ONE.
I'LL START BY COVERING, UH, SOME OF THE TECHNICAL BACKGROUND IN REGARDS TO THE, UH, PERMANENT CAPACITY FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN IN C**K.
AND ALSO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, HRCS, UH, LOGIC AND, AND, UM, SEWER ALLOCATIONS.
AND THEN MR. PBIT WILL, WILL DIVE INTO MAPS OF PROPOSED, UH, EXPANSION OF THE SEWER AREA AND ALSO SOME PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS THAT HE SEES ON THE HORIZON.
SO THE, THE REASON WE'RE BRINGING THIS TO YOU, AND IN RECENT MEETINGS WITH HRSD ON, ON THE THINGS WE HAVE GOING ON IN THE COUNTY, UH, THEY'VE STRESSED THAT THE C**K WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT HAS A FINITE CAPACITY.
UM, OF COURSE THERE'S, THERE'S WASTEWATER COMING FROM NAS ALL THE WAY UP THE SPINE UP UP TO THE PLANT NOW.
AND, UM, IT'S CURRENTLY PERMITTED THROUGH DEQ TO TREAT 750,000 GALLONS PER DAY OF WASTEWATER.
HRRC BELIEVES THAT THE PERMITTED CAPACITY CANNOT BE INCREASED DUE TO POTENTIAL FOR SHELLFISH IMPACTS.
AND THAT'S COME THROUGH THEIR VERBAL DISCUSSIONS WITH DEQ, WHO'S THE PERMITTING AUTHORITY THERE.
AND HRSD HAS UPDATED THEIR WASTEWATER FLOW ALLOCATIONS BASED ON EXISTING FLOWS AND PROJECTIONS OUT TO THE YEAR 2050 FOR PLANNING PURPOSES.
UH, THE NEW ALLOCATIONS ARE BASED ON 95% OF TREATMENT PLANT CAPACITY, OR 712,500 GALLONS PER DAY.
THE NEW ALLOCATIONS INCLUDE FLOWS, UH, FROM MACK COUNTY, THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS, AND ALSO TOWN OF WATCHER PRAIRIE, WHO WASN'T ON THE ORIGINAL ALLOCATION FROM MANY YEARS BACK WHEN THE PROJECT FIRST STARTED.
AND HRSD EXPECTS TO PERIODICALLY UPDATE THIS, AND WE'RE KIND OF CALLING IT A SEWER BUDGET OVER TIME TO REPRESENT CURRENT CONDITIONS AND FUTURE ESTIMATES.
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NEW CONNECTIONS COME ONLINE, THEY'LL BE GETTING DATA THROUGH THE MONTHLY BILLINGS AND THAT TYPE OF THING.AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, IT'S ACTUALLY NOT, UM, NOT, NOT AS MUCH FLOW NEEDS TO BE ALLOCATED TO A PARTICULAR AREA 'CAUSE WE HAVE ACTUALS AND WE CAN GAUGE WHAT IT, WHAT IT IS GONNA BE.
SO TH THIS IS THE REAL IMPORTANT SLIDE HERE, THE TABLE.
UM, SO THIS IS WHAT HRC PUT TOGETHER.
IT'S BASED ON MAXIMUM MONTH, AVERAGE DAILY FLOW.
SO YOU'LL SEE THE DIFFERENT LOCALITIES LISTED THERE.
UM, MIMA COUNTY, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, OUR PEAK MONTH, WHICH IS USUALLY AROUND AUGUST OF EVERY YEAR, WE'RE AT, AT AROUND 46,000 GALLONS PER DAY.
AND THAT INCLUDES THE HOSPITAL, ALL THE, UM, CONNECTIONS THAT WE'VE HAD FOR MANY YEARS WITH THE FAST FOOD, RESTAURANTS, HOTELS, AND THE ONLY AREA AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
SO, UM, CURRENT RIGHT NOW ABOUT 46,000.
THE ALLOCATION FOR, FOR AKIMA COUNTY A HUNDRED EIGHTY SEVEN, SEVEN HUNDRED TWENTY, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE A BIG NUMBER, BUT WHEN WE START TO GET INTO SOME THINGS THAT ARE ON THE HORIZON, IT, IT'S, IT'S NOT A HUGE NUMBER.
SO, UH, THERE JUST A FEW MORE THINGS THAT TIE IN WITH THIS.
UM, THERE'S, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE KEEP HEARING EVERY SINGLE TIME WE TALK WITH THE HRC STAFF.
ONE OF THOSE, IT CONSIDERS ITSELF DEVELOPMENT AGNOSTIC.
IT'S NEITHER PRO-DEVELOPMENT NOR ANTI-DEVELOPMENT.
AND IT LOOKS TO THE LOCALITIES TO DETERMINE THE AREAS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE HRC TO SERVE.
OF COURSE, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE WHOLE PLANNING PROCESS AND THE COMP PLAN AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
UH, THE OTHER THING WE HEAR THEM SAY ALL THE TIME IS DEVELOPMENT PAYS FOR DEVELOPMENT.
THEY HARP ON THAT ALL THE TIME.
UH, SO CONTINUING ON PER THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT, IT'S, I THINK IT'S A FEW YEARS OLD NOW, UM, A COUPLE YEARS OLD.
UM, HRD MAY EXPAND THE HRC SEWER SERVICE AREAS TO BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE COUNTY'S DESIGNATED OR EXPANDED SEWER SERVICE AREAS IF REQUESTED BY THE COUNTY.
AND THE PROVISION OF CONVEYANCE AND TREATMENT ARE VIABLE AND ACCEPTABLE, AS DETERMINED BY HRC.
SO BASICALLY THEY LOOK AT THEIR CURRENT ACCESS AND STAFFING AND SO FORTH AND SAY, WE CAN HANDLE THIS MUCH FLOW.
OUR PERMITS ALLOW US TO HANDLE THIS MUCH FLOW.
IF THE, UH, COUNTY THROUGH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ASKED TO EXPAND AND, AND ENCOMPASS ANOTHER AREA, UH, THEY WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE SITUATION, SEE IF IT'S, IF IT'S FEASIBLE AND VIABLE, UH, BEFORE COMMITTING AND, AND ACCEPTING IT INTO THE AREA.
AND, AND ANOTHER THING TO BEAR IN MIND, WE, UM, WE'VE HAD, WE HAVE SOME, UM, UH, WATER AND SEWER SERVICE AREAS IN THE COUNTY THAT WERE ESTABLISHED SOME YEARS AGO.
SO WITH THIS, THE HRSD AREA IS A PORTION OF THAT LARGE AREA, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO YOU MAY HAVE YOU KNOW, ANOTHER UTILITY, A A, UH, PRIVATE WATER AND SEWER PROVIDER, THAT TYPE OF THING YOU MAY WANNA PARTNER WITH IN THE FUTURE.
YOU COULD GIVE THEM A, A PORTION OF THE, OF THE PIE, IF YOU WILL.
SO THE HRSD, UM, THE IDEA IS THAT IT WILL BE A, A SUBSET OF THE LARGER COUNTY SERVICE AREA.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, I MENTIONED THIS EARLIER, OUR, OUR CURRENT FLOW IS ABOUT 46,000 GALLONS PER DAY, INCLUDES WALMART HOSPITAL, THE, THE FAST SPEED AREAS, THE, UH, INDUSTRIAL PARK AT MALFA, THE AIRPORT, COUNTY GARAGE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
HAVE YOU, HAVE WE DONE ANY ESTIMATES ON WHAT THE FLOW WILL BE IF THAT AREA BE BETWEEN ONLY AND AN KOT WERE BUILT OUT? WHAT'S THAT? THAT'S GONNA, WHAT'S THAT GONNA DO? THIS FAR? YEAH.
WHEN WE GET TO THE MAPS, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT LOOK TO BE, UM, I GUESS, OH, ARE YOU GONNA DO THAT TONIGHT? WELL, YEAH, MR. PAM IS GONNA GET IN THERE ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT HE THINKS ARE GONNA HAPPEN.
I'LL WAIT IF YOU'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IT.
AND YOU, AND YOU'LL SEE OUR, UM, OUR EXISTING, UH, COUNTY SERVICE AREA DOES ENCOMPASS ALL OF THAT, UM, ALREADY.
SO IT DOESN'T MEAN THERE'S NECESSARILY FLOW TO COVER EVERY POTENTIAL HOUSE IN, IN SHED IN THAT AREA, BUT, UM, IT IS INCLUDED IN THE SERVICE AREA.
AND ALONG WITH THAT COMMENT CAPACITY SHOULD BE CONSIDERED RESERVE CAPACITY FOR CHESAPEAKE SQUARE SHOPPING MALL.
WE HAVE THE NEW PUMP STATION THERE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONNECTIONS THERE, BUT SOME OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT, LIKE THE TOWNHOUSES BEHIND THERE, THEY'RE ALREADY APPROVED FOR CONNECTION.
I THINK THE PIPE'S ALREADY CONNECTED THERE, AND IT WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME IN THE FUTURE IF SOME OF THOSE, UM, BUSINESSES THERE IN THE MALL DO WANT TO CONNECT AND, AND RECALL THAT, UM, UH, WHEELER ASSOCIATES, WHICH, WHICH, WHICH RUNS THAT AREA THERE, THEY, UM, UH, GRANTED US THE, UM, UM, THE EASEMENT TO INSTALL THAT PUMP STATION THERE TO CARVE OUT THAT LAND.
AND WE'RE ACTUALLY STILL, UH, WORKING WITH THEM TO TRY TO GET FEE, SIMPLE OWNERSHIP OF THE PUMP STATION SO IT CAN THEN BE TRANSFERRED TO HRSD.
SO THERE'S BEEN SOME SKIN IN THE GAME BY, UH, CHESAPEAKE SQUARE SHOPPING MALL.
AND THE OTHER THINGS I HAVE NOTED UP HERE, UM, REMAINING LOTS IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK, YOU KNOW, AS BUSINESSES COME IN THERE, YOU'LL, UM, YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT CAPACITY FOR THEM AND ALSO THE PROPERTY THAT THE COUNTY OWNS AT THE, THE OLD WHISPERING PINES LOCATION, WHICH
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IS, WHICH IS PRIME FOR SOMETHING TO GO INTO THERE, AND IT'S RIGHT, YOU KNOW, NEXT TO THE LINE.UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALL THE BACKGROUND PORTION THAT I HAD.
AND I GUESS IF THERE'S NO PUBLIC HEARING, UM, MR. HAMID COULD CONTINUE ON.
LEE HAMID, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AND I'M JUST GOING TO GO QUICKLY THROUGH A COUPLE OF MAPS NOW.
UM, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR HALL HAD INDICATED, UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS.
NUMBER ONE, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT ON THIS FIRST MAP HERE THAT THE BLUE AREA IS THE COUNTY ADOPTED, UM, CENTRAL MACK UTILITY SERVICE AREA, WHICH IN AND OF ITSELF DOESN'T HAVE ANY CAPACITY ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
BUT THESE, UM, THESE RED AREAS ARE THE HRSD AREAS.
SO, UH, YOU COULD SEE THAT A LOT OF THOSE, UH, AREAS THAT HRSD CURRENTLY HAS, AGAIN, THEY, THEY DOVETAIL WITH OUR ADOPTED AREA, BUT, UH, TOWN OF ONANCOCK IS HERE.
UH, THESE, THIS BLANK AREA HERE IS THE TOWN OF ONLY, AND HERE IS THE TOWN OF MACK.
UH, WE ARE PRIMARILY GOING TO CONCENTRATE ON THIS AREA UP HERE AMONG THE THREE TOWNS.
THAT IS WHERE OUR PROPOSED, UH, UH, EXPANSION AREAS ARE.
SO, UM, THIS ONE RIGHT HERE IS A, IS AN INSET OF THAT OTHER MAP.
AND THIS IS ESSENTIALLY THE TOWN OF MACK.
AND, UM, UH, WE DO CAPTURE THE, UH, THE EXTENSION OFFICE IN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HERE.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THIS PURPLE LINE RIGHT HERE IS THE FORCE MAIN, AND IT RUNS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE EXTENSION OFFICE IN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
AND THAT, UM, AND THAT THE PUMP STATION IS RIGHT HERE.
AND OF COURSE, THERE IS A SERVICE LINE, A GRAVITY LINE THAT COMES FROM, UH, FROM WHAT I'LL CALL THE, UH, THE ACK COUNTY GOVERNMENT CAMPUS TO THAT FORCE MAIN, UH, THAT'S NEXT TO THE OLD VAX BUILDING.
THIS GREEN, UH, SHAPE RIGHT HERE IS THE WHISPERING PINES, UH, IS THE WHISPERING PINE SITE.
AND ALTHOUGH WE DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, DEVELOPMENT, UH, APPLICATIONS FOR THAT SITE, WE DO WANT TO RESERVE SOME, UH, UH, SOME CAPACITY FOR THAT.
SHOULD A, UH, SUITABLE DEVELOPER OR A WILLING DEVELOPER, ONE THAT'S CAPABLE OF DEVELOPING THAT SITE COME IN.
AND WE, WE WANT THEM TO BE ON PUBLIC SEWER, BECAUSE PUBLIC SEWER IS WHAT ENABLES HIGHER DENSITY, AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAX OUT THAT DENSITY ON THAT SITE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, IT IS VERY CLOSE TO ROUTE 13.
IT'S IN THAT CENTRAL AKAMAK AREA BETWEEN THE THREE TOWNS, AND IT'S ALSO ACROSS FROM THE FIRE STATION.
IT LIKEWISE IS, UM, UH, IT FRONTS ON THAT, UH, ON THAT FORCE MAIN.
SO IT IS WELL POSITIONED FOR SERVICE.
HOWEVER, ONE THING THAT WILL BE NEEDED IS A PUMP STATION OR SOME SORT OF, UH, OR, OR, OR SOME SORT OF FACILITY TO TAP IN, BECAUSE YOU OBVIOUSLY CAN'T TAP DIRECTLY INTO THE, UH, INTO THAT FORCE MAIN.
THIS IS A WIDER VIEW OF THIS CENTRAL AKAMAK AREA.
AGAIN, TOWN OF AKIMA TO THE EAST TOWN OF ONLY, AND THE TOWN OF, UM, OF AN C**K.
NOW THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, UH, WE, WE TOUCHED ON THIS AREA LAST YEAR WITH THE REZONING AND THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR COASTAL SQUARE AND RESIDENCES.
AND, AND THAT PROMISES TO BE A HEAVY USER SHOULD THAT ENTIRE, UH, DEVELOPMENT BE BUILT OUT TO THE TUNE OF 464 UNITS.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE APPROVED FOR.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN HERE.
UM, THE, THE CHESAPEAKE SQUARE SHOPPING CENTER IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS, UH, IN, UH, IN THIS REQUEST, EVEN THOUGH IT IS SHADED GREEN, UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE HRSD SERVICE AREA.
THERE ARE THREE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, BETWEEN THE TOWN OF ONLY AND ONANCOCK, UH, TWO OF THEM.
UH, WE'VE HAD ACTIONS ON THE, UH, THE, UH, JOHN TI DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THE, THE GROVE AT ONLY TOWN CENTER IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW.
UH, THEY ARE APPROVED FOR 32 SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS.
AND, UH, UH, UH, THE OTHER ONE IS GOING TO BE, AGAIN, THAT COASTAL SQUARE IN RESIDENCES, WHICH GOES ALL THE WAY FROM FAIRGROUNDS ROAD.
AND THEN IT FRONTS ON, UH, ON ROUTE 13.
AND, UH, AND, UH, THEIR ACCESS ON ROUTE 13 WOULD BE, UH, JUST BEFORE THE SHOPPING CENTER.
AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE SOME ACCESS, UH, PROGRAMMED THROUGH THE SHOPPING CENTER.
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THE BLUE IS THE COUNTY, UH, IS THE COUNTY DESIGNATED AREA.THE ONE THAT WE'RE PRIMARILY CONCERNED WITH IS THE RED DESIGNATED AREA, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THREE AT, AT THREE SPOTS.
UH, UH, THIS LARGE ACREAGE HERE, WHISPERING PINES AND, UM, AND THE, AND THE TWO BUILDINGS CLOSER INTO THE TOWN OF MACK.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, THIS ENTIRE AREA HERE IS DESIGNATED FOR, UH, FOR HIGHER DENSITY, MORE INTENSE DEVELOPMENT, EITHER AS A, AS A GENERAL COMMERCIAL AREA, BUT MORE SPECIFICALLY AS A VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT AREA, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR THOSE HIGHER RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S ALREADY IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR, FOR HIGHER DENSITY.
IT IS, IT IS ONE OF OUR RESPONSIBILITIES AS A, AS, UH, AS A REQUESTER OF HAVING THE SERVICE AREA, UH, EXPANDED TO PROVE THAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR ALL OF THIS.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS ALL IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND HERE IS A MAP OF THE FUTURE LAND USE, UH, FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.
UH, THE ORANGE AND THE YELLOW ARE YOUR VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT AREAS.
UH, THIS GRAY RIGHT HERE IS, UH, GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
AND OF COURSE AROUND THE TOWN OF MACK IS ALSO, UH, IS, IS ALSO, UH, VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT.
I CAN, UH, FIELD ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THESE AT THIS TIME.
IS THERE ANY, UM, PLANS OR IS THERE ANYBODY THAT, IS THERE ANY FOR RESERVING ANY, UH, CAPACITY IN CASE JUST ASK IN CASE, UH, PAINTER KELLER MALFA OR ONLY WOULD WANT TO DO ANYTHING AND ATTACH, OR WHERE, WHERE THAT GOES RIGHT THROUGH THEIR TOWNS? BECAUSE NAS AND EXOR ARE ALREADY ATTACHED MM-HMM
SO I'M JUST WONDERING, THOSE FOUR TOWNS, IS THERE ANY CAPACITY, IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION IF SOMETHING WOULD HAPPEN AND THEY, THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO CONNECT PART OF THE TOWN WITH THEIR BUSINESS DISTRICTS AS, AS AS, YEAH.
AND AS SUCH, WITH, WITH THE AREAS THAT WE'RE PROGRAMMING OR THAT WE'RE REQUESTING TO BE INCLUDED IN THE HRSD AREA, YOU KNOW, UM, ONE THAT I DIDN'T MENTION WAS DUNCAN MANOR.
UH, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY APPLICATIONS ON THAT, BUT WE HAVE BEEN AUTHORIZED BY THE DEVELOPER TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT OUT THERE.
AND I WOULD SUBMIT THAT, UH, THAT HE'S, HE'S READY TO COME IN WITH, UH, WITH AN APPLICATION FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR REZONINGS AND THAT KIND OF THING.
BUT TO GET BACK TO YOUR QUESTION, WITH THOSE OTHER TOWNS WHO DID NOT OPT IN AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS, UH, THERE IS NO RESERVE CAPACITY FOR THEM.
SO IF, IF DEVELOPMENT WERE TO OCCUR IN THAT AREA, AN ONSITE SOLUTION FOR WHATEVER DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY, UH, THAT THEY ADOPT, UH, WITHIN THEIR BORDERS, OR THAT THEY APPROVE WITHIN THEIR BORDERS, UH, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
AND, AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE ON SITE.
SO WE'RE BASICALLY TALKING ABOUT A, UM, UH, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, A, UH, A MASS SEPTIC AND AND DRAIN FIELD TYPE SITUATION.
WOULD THAT BE LIKE, UH, NOT LIKE WATCH FOR, BUT IF THEY DID SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO APPROACH HRSD AND THEN THAT WOULD HAVE TO INCREASE THE, HOW WOULD THAT WORK IF THOSE TOWNS, THE REASON I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE THREE OF THOSE TOWNS ARE IN MS. MAJORS IN MY DISTRICT MM-HMM
AND IT JUST, THE PIPE GOES THROUGH 'EM.
SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IN THE FUTURE IF DEVELOPMENT COMES OR DOES SOMETHING, THE, THE ONLY WAY TO, THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING.
THE ONLY WAY TO ACCOMMODATE THEM.
AND, AND I, YOU KNOW, I, UH, IF IF THERE'S ANY, UH, UH, COMMENT FROM, UH, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR HALL, BUT THE ONLY WAY TO ACCOMMODATE THEM WOULD BE TO EXPAND THE CAPACITY OF THE PLANT.
WHICH CANNOT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WOULD BE AN UPHILL BATTLE FOR HRSD.
GIVEN THE LIMITATIONS ON DISCHARGE INTO SURFACE WATER.
SO THEY'RE DISCHARGING INTO, UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'RE DISCHARGING INTO AN C**K CREEK.
AND YOU KNOW THAT, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
IT'S RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM IT.
SO IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT I JUST MENTION, JUST FOR PERSPECTIVE? UM, YOU KNOW, HDS RE UH, WORLD REALLY CENTERS ON, UH, LARGE TREATMENT PLANTS, LARGE DIAMETER FORCE MAINS, YOU KNOW, TRANSPORTING NOT, NOT THE SMALLER SYSTEMS. AND MR. MASON AND I HAVE BEEN HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH 'EM, PARTICULARLY AS WE START TO TALK ABOUT NORTHERN AKAMAK AND WHAT'S NEEDED UP THERE.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY INTEREST IN SMALL PLANTS, SMALL COMMUNITY TYPE SYSTEMS, THAT KIND OF THING.
THAT'S WHY I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP OUR OPTIONS OPEN AS WE START TO LOOK AT SOLUTIONS FOR THE FUTURE.
THEY MAY BE SMALLER, DECENTRALIZED TYPES OF THINGS, AND THEY MAY BE WITH PARTNERS OTHER THAN HRSD.
UM, SO I THINK WE KEEP ALL THE, ALL THE OPTIONS OPEN.
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JUST SAYING, YOU DON'T EVER KNOW WHAT'S GONNA COME IN THE FUTURE.AND UNFORTUNATELY, THAT THAT PLANT COME IN THAT SECTION OF THE, THE COUNTY.
AND THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS TOUGH CONVERSATION IS THAT UNFORTUNATELY, THAT PLANT CANNOT COVER EVERYTHING FROM THE STATE LINE TO KI TOPE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IF THIS, IF THAT KEEPS BUILDING OUT, LIKE THAT'S DOING, YOU'RE ONLY GONNA HAVE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TWO OR THREE BOARD MEMBERS RIGHT.
THE OTHER SIX WILL BE FROM ALL THE REST OF THE COUNTY.
YOU'RE GONNA, I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA, THAT'S GONNA BE A BIG CONCENTRATION.
I MEAN, MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY YEAH.
TOTALLY SUPPORT THIS, THIS, THIS IDEA THAT HRSD IS DEVELOPMENT AGNOSTIC IS REALLY A VERY SIMPLE APPROACH BECAUSE BY PROVIDING SERVICES TO AN AREA, THEY'RE FUNNELING DEVELOPMENT INTO CERTAIN AREAS AND TAKING IT AWAY FROM OTHER AREAS.
AND MY COMMUNITY'S JUST LIKE YOURS.
UM, AND, AND SO I THINK WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS.
AND ANOTHER PROVIDER MIGHT BE ABLE TO COME INTO MR. HART'S AREA OR MY AREA.
AND I, I'VE GOT SOME IDEAS THERE, BUT, BUT I JUST COULDN'T LET THAT STATEMENT GO.
AND I WAS IN A MEETING WHERE THEY SAID IT IRK, IT IRKS ME A LITTLE BIT TOO.
UM, BECAUSE THE PIPE IS RUNNING RIGHT THROUGH THOSE TOWNS.
WE UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT THAT WAS THE CIRCUMSTANCE AT THE TIME.
I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION THOUGH, WAS, UH, IT WASN'T CLEAR TO ME, LEE, IS THE GROVE CURRENTLY ON SERVICE, OR WILL THEY NOT GET SERVICE UNLESS THIS IS PASSED? THEY'RE, UH, INCREDIBLY CLOSE TO ONE OF THE PUMP STATIONS.
SO THE EXPECTATION IS THAT THEY WOULD CONNECT THEIR CONSTRUCTION PLANS, SHOWED CONNECTIONS, UM, THEIR CONSTRUCTION PLANS SHOWED ONSITE WELL, BUT IN TERMS OF SEWER, NO INDIVIDUAL SEPTIC TANKS AND DRAIN FIELDS FOR EACH OF THE, UH, 32, UH, UH, SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING.
I HAVE A MOTION IF YOUR READY.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I APPROVE, UH, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION TO REQUEST THE HAMPTON ROAD SANITATION DISTRICT TO EXPAND A SERVICE AREA TO INCLUDE CERTAIN DESIGNATED AREAS DESCRIBED HEREIN AND SHOWN ON THE ATTACHED EXHIBIT.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE MOTION PROPERLY SECONDED.
ALL IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE MOTION CARRIES.
RIGHT? 12 TWO, CONSIDER A 2026.
1 75 SHATI ROAD, VO SMART SCALE APPLICATION.
BILLY JOE, WE'RE COMING TO GET YOU
PAM, THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THE COUNTY STAFF REQUESTS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DIRECTION REGARDING THE SUBMISSION OF ANOTHER VDOT SMART SCALE APPLICATION FOR THE PROPOSED ROUTE 1 75 IMPROVEMENTS IN THE SPRING OF 2026.
TO DATE, THE COUNTY HAS PREVIOUSLY APPLIED FOR FUNDING ON, ON THIS ROADWAY IN 20 20, 20 22, AND 2024.
SHOULD THE BOARD CONSENT TO ANOTHER APPLICATION, THE STAFF WILL DISCUSS THE SCOPE AND NEXT STEPS WITH THE CONSULTING ENGINEER AND VDOT STAFF IN THE JULY, AUGUST 20, 25 TIMEFRAME.
AND THEIR RESOLUTION IS NOT NEEDED AT THIS TIME.
SHOULD THE BOARD DECLINE, THE STAFF WILL CLOSE OUT THIS ACTIVITY.
IN TERMS OF EVALUATION CRITERIA FOR REFERENCE, SMART SCALE ELIGIBLE PROJECTS ARE EVALUATED ON THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA AND GIVEN A SCORE BASED ON ANTICIPATED BENEFITS AND PROJECT COST.
UH, AND, AND, AND THOSE EVALUATION CRITERIA INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING, CONGESTION, MITIGATION, SAFETY, ACCESSIBILITY, AND THAT REALLY ENTAILS THE ACCESSIBILITY OF, UM, OF JOBS.
JOBS FOR DISADVANTAGED POPULATIONS AND MULTIMODAL TRAVEL CHOICES.
OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT AND LAND USE.
THE SCORE OF THIS APPLICATION IS THEN COMPARED AGAINST OTHER PROJECT APPLICATIONS ACROSS THE DISTRICT AND OR THE COMMONWEALTH.
AND WE'RE IN THE HAMPTON ROADS DISTRICT.
UM, GONNA REVIEW THE 2024 APPLICATION NOW, UH, COUNTY STAFF, ALONG WITH THE CONSULTING ENGINEERS AT KIMLEY HORN, THEY SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION, UM, UH, OR THEY CAME UP WITH THE APPLICATION ON OUR BEHALF.
THEY EVALUATED OR WE EVALUATED THE MERITS AND CHALLENGES OF THE MOST RECENT $103 MILLION VDOT SMART SCALE APPLICATION.
THE PROJECT AIMED TO BUILD AN UNDIVIDED THREE LANE THOROUGHFARE WITH WIDENED EIGHT FOOT SHOULDERS ALONG A THREE MILE SEGMENT OF SHIITE ROAD THAT STAY ROUTE 1 75, UH, BETWEEN T'S CORNER AND ATLANTIC ROAD.
IF COST HAD NOT BEEN A PROHIBITING SCORING FACTOR ON PREVIOUS SMART SCALE APPLICATIONS, THE SCOPE OF THE COUNTY SUBMISSION WOULD HAVE BEEN, UM, WOULD HAVE BEEN GREATER ENCOMPASSING, UH, WIDENING ROUTE 1 75 IN ITS ENTIRETY.
IN THE 2024 APPLICATION DEBRIEF, UH, VDOT, UM, UH, INDICATED THAT THE PROJECT COST SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTED THE PROJECT'S OVERALL SCORE AND RANKING.
WE RANKED 24 OUTTA 31 DISTRICT WIDE WITH A SCORE OF 1.1.
AND FOR COMPARISON, THE LOWEST PRO OF THE LOWEST SCORE PROJECT SELECTED FOR FUNDING HAD A SCORE OF 4.45.
SO WE WERE DEFICIENT THERE TO IMPROVE OUR APPLICATION
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SCORE.REDUCING THE PROJECT COST IS ESSENTIAL.
THE 2024 APPLICATION SCORED HIGHLY IN SAFETY, THE HIGHEST CONTRIBUTING FACTOR IN A TYPOLOGY TYPE D AREA, WHICH MACK COUNTY QUALIFIES AS.
AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WAS THE SECOND HIGHEST CONTRIBUTING FACTOR.
THE APPLICATION ALSO FEATURED MULTIPLE LETTERS OF SUPPORT, INCLUDING STATE LEGISLATORS, DELEGATE BLOCKS, HIM AND SENATOR DEEF, NASA VIRGINIA SPACE, THE TOWN OF SHIITE AND A-N-P-D-C ALL SUPPORTED THE APPLICATION.
IN TERMS OF ADJUSTMENTS TO BE COMPETITIVE, THE PROJECT SCOPE MUST BE REDUCED POTENTIALLY BY 75%.
THE REVISED SCOPE MAY INVOLVE THE FOLLOWING STRATEGIES.
NUMBER ONE, PHYSICALLY REDUCING THE ROADWAY WIDTH.
SECONDLY, FOCUSING ON SPECIFIC SAFETY AND HIGH CRASH LOCATIONS ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
THIRDLY, INCORPORATING SPECIFIC DEDICATED TURN LANES WHERE NEEDED.
AND FINALLY, LESSENING IMPACTS TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES LIMITING RIGHT OF WAY NEEDS AND SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCING THE COST.
BUT WE'LL SAY THAT, UH, THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION WOULD'VE BEEN ONE OF THE MAJOR COSTS OF THIS.
AND IF WE CAN REDUCE THE WIDTH, THEN THAT WOULD REDUCE THE COST.
ADDITIONALLY, THE EMPHASIS ON OVERSIZED LOADS FOR WALLOPS ISLAND NECESSITATING A 53 FOOT PAVEMENT WIDTH MAY BE RECONSIDERED WITH POTENTIALLY DIRECTING THOSE LOADS THROUGH THE PROPOSED SLOOP GUT MARINE ACCESS.
SO THAT'S A DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCE THAT WAS NOT AVAILABLE TO KIND OF LEAN ON IN PAST APPLICATIONS.
SO THEREFORE, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS SUBMITTING ANOTHER APPLICATION WITH A REVISED SCOPE, UH, FOCUSING ON REDUCING OVERALL PROJECT COSTS FOR THE NEXT SMART SCALE ROUND IN THE SPRING OF 2026.
THIS CONCLUDES MY, UH, REMARKS AND I CAN FIELD ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
ANY QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION? I, I, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO HEAR FROM BILLY.
UM, SO THE ORIGINAL SMART SCALE WENT FROM T'S CORNER TO ATLANTIC ROAD.
THAT WAS, IT STOPPED AT ROYAL FARMS, IT DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO THE CAUSEWAY.
ARE WE NOW ASKING FOR WIDENING THE CAUSEWAY OR MAKING SOME TURN OFF LANES OR SOMETHING? WE ARE STILL FOCUSED ON THAT, UH, ON THAT SEGMENT BETWEEN T'S CORNER AND, UH, AND, UH, UH, ATLANTIC ROAD MAKING THAT THREE LANES, WELL, WE APPLIED FOR THREE LANES, BUT, UM, THAT HAS REALLY INCREASED THE COST.
SO WHAT WE WANT TO TRY TO DO IS WHERE THERE ARE HIGH CRASH AREAS, THEY'RE TAKING A LOOK AT LEFT TURNS.
AND, AND THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE, UH, HAVING DEDICATED LEFT TURN LANES OR WIDENING.
AT THAT POINT, I WOULD SUSPECT THAT WE WOULD STILL WANT A LITTLE BIT OF SHOULDER WIDENING, BUT NOT EIGHT FEET ON BOTH SIDES, PLUS THE, YOU KNOW, PLUS THAT CENTER TURN LANE.
BUT, UH, BUT THE, UH, INCREASED PAVEMENT WIDTH IS WHAT'S REALLY DRIVING THAT COST, ESPECIALLY ALL THE WAY, YOU KNOW, THAT THREE MILES ALL THE WAY FROM T'S CORNER, TWO ATLANTIC ROAD, A TURN LANE AT THE MOBILE HOME PARK THERE, AS SOON AS YOU COME FROM T'S CORNER WOULD BE GREAT AND, AND RAISE SHANNON, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
ALL YOUR CRASHES TAKE PLACE, RIGHT? UM, WALLACE HAS GOT A LIGHT AND YOU GOT NOTHING ON THE CAUSEWAY.
YOU'RE 18 INCHES APART WHEN YOU PASS, IF YOU'RE SOBER, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PUT IT IN ALL YOU WANT IF YOU, I MEAN, IT'S NOT MY AREA.
IT'S, IT'S YOURS A RESORT THEN? NO.
I GOT SOME PEOPLE THERE ON WALLACE, BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT ROAD.
MY ROAD IS SOMETHING, WELL, CERTAINLY FOR IT, WE'RE NOT GONNA GO AGAINST IT, BUT, UM, I MEAN, IT'S NOT HELPING THAT CAUSEWAY MM-HMM.
THAT, YOU KNOW, TWO LANE STRIP WITH NO TURNOFFS CRAZY.
AND THE EXCUSE I GOT FIVE, HOW MANY YEARS HAS THIS BEEN, MIKE? YOU PUT IT IN, WAS THAT, UH, VDOT WON'T LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE THE ROAD IS STILL SETTLING AND, YOU KNOW, EVERY FIVE YEARS THEY HAVE TO GO DO THE RAMPS ON SOME OF THE BRIDGES'.
SO IT'S GONNA BE SETTLING UNTIL WE'RE ALL DEAD.
WHAT'S THAT GOTTA DO WITH IT? YEAH.
JUST MANY BOARD
IT'LL STILL BE SETTLING AFTER WE'RE ALL DEAD.
WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT GOTTA DO WITH IT? I'M JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THAT MAKES NO SENSE HOW MUCH MONEY THAT FALLS AWAY AND HOW MUCH MONEY IS FROM ATLANTIC TO T CORNER.
UM, MATT, MS. CHAIR, MAY I ASK YOUR QUESTION? ABSOLUTELY.
UM, I'M JUST GOING, WELL, DO, DO THEY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC? ABSOLUTELY.
PUT THEIR BUTT ON SH FATIGUE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PONY PIN AND TELL 'EM TO GET OFF, TAKE 'EM THERE AND DROP 'EM OFF AND SAY, YOU GET BACK EITHER WAY YOURSELF, BUT THIS SEASONAL NATURE WORKS AGAINST US.
IF IT WAS THAT WAY FULL, IF IT WAS THAT WAY YEAR ROUND, IT'S AVERAGE, WE GONNA TAKE AVERAGE.
SO YOU GET PUNISHED BECAUSE OF THAT.
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THE, AND THEY NEVER CONSIDERED THE CAUSEWAY FROM ATLANTIC IN, EVEN THOUGH THAT, AND PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THIS, BUT EVEN THOUGH THAT CAUSEWAY ALL THE WAY TO SH TO THAT BRIDGE IS IN THE COUNTY THAT IS NOT IN THE TOWN MM-HMMRIGHT? BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN THEY DID THEIR ANNEXATION, RIGHT? AND THAT IS ALL, THAT IS ALL IN THE COUNTY.
AND IT WAS, HUH? IT WAS IN THE TWENTIES.
BUT THAT IS ALL WITHIN THE COUNTY, WHICH I, WE THOUGHT AT THE TIME WHEN IT WAS DONE, I THINK SHTICK THOUGHT TOO THAT IT WOULD HELP BY LEAVING 1 75 IN THE COUNTY.
AND IT'S 1 75 IS IN THE COUNTY ALL THE WAY.
SO, AND THAT DOESN'T HELP EITHER.
COST IS, COST IS GONNA BE THE LIMITING FACTOR THERE, BECAUSE IF, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS FROM THE CORNER, SO THEY ONCE, BECAUSE IT'S ALL THE WAY INTO, UM, YOU KNOW, RIGHT THERE TO RIGHT BEFORE THE TENNIS AND FATIGUE, UH, THAT WOULD, WELL, THE TOWN OF SHTE STARTS AT QUEEN SOUND UNDERSTOOD.
BUT THAT'S, BUT THE ROAD ITSELF, THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THE ROAD ARE IN ACK COUNTY ALL THE WAY TILL YOU GET TO THE DRAWBRIDGE.
WE, WE ESSENTIALLY, OR PUT IN A POSITION WHERE WE'D HAVE TO PICK AND CHOOSE THE PROJECT WITH THE, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER DOABLE, DOABLE, AND WOULD HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT, RIGHT? THE TWO, THE, THE TWO CRITERIA THAT THEY REALLY FOCUS ON MENTIONED, UH, SIX OF 'EM.
BUT TWO OF THEM, UH, THE, THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES ARE GONNA BE DECONGESTION OR CONGESTION, OR WE'RE TRYING TO DECONGEST AN AREA AND SAFETY.
SO THEY DO TAKE A LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF CRASHES ALONG A, A, A, A SPECIFIC ROUTE.
AND, UM, AND, UH, WHETHER THOSE CRASHES ENTAIL, UH, UH, VEHICULAR COLLISION, WHETHER THERE'S SOME SORT OF, UH, UM, UH, BODILY HARM OR EVEN DEATH.
SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT, UH, THERE ARE DIFFERENT, UM, UH, CLASSIFICATIONS OF ACCIDENTS.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT SEGMENT BETWEEN, UH, BETWEEN THE ROYAL FARMS AND TEE'S CORNER, UH, THERE, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.
UH, WE'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS ALL OF THAT, UH, ALL OF ROUTE 1 75.
I THINK THAT WE COULD ALL AGREE ON THAT, BUT WE HAVE TO BE STRATEGIC AND, UH, AND DELIBERATE ABOUT THE, THE AREAS THAT WE TRY TO APPLY FOR.
MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK, IF WE TRY TO APPLY FOR THE WHOLE THING, IT WOULD BE JUST TOO EXPENSIVE.
YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS, I THINK, UH, SUPERVISOR TAR HIT IT HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
THIS IS ALL, THIS IS ALL WE CAN DO.
THE REASON THAT THE INITIAL PROJECT WAS NOT APPROVED IS BECAUSE OF THE MONEY.
AND YOU'VE REDUCED IT, HOPING THAT THE MONEY WILL LOOK BETTER OR THE COST WILL LOOK BETTER.
AND THE POSSIBILITY OF GETTING THIS, UH, DISAPPROVED RIGHT.
AND, AND MR. TARS RATE THE CAUSEWAY, UH, IS NOT SAFE.
BUT THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO IT TO DO TO ADDRESS THAT.
NOW, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE.
AND AGAIN, THE, THE ORIGINAL REASON FOR THAT WIDENED 53 FOOT, YOU KNOW, EDGE OF PAVEMENT.
EDGE OF PAVEMENT, WAS TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE OVERSIZED LOADS.
AND IF WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP A MARINE ACCESS, THEN I THINK THAT THEY WOULD PREFER TO, TO, UH, TO, UH, TRANSPORT THEIR LOADS BY, BY, UH, UH, BY WATER AS OPPOSED TO OVER THE ROAD.
SO THAT IS A NEW CONSIDERATION THAT WE CAN THROW INTO THE, UH, INTO THE EQUATION FOR OUR NEXT APPLICATION.
SHOULD YOU PROVIDE US THAT DIRECTION.
ANY MORE DISCUSSIONS? THE MOTION WE LET 'EM GO WITH THE APPLICATION? I'LL SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION? PROPERLY SECOND.
THANK YOU, MR. SO, UH, 12 THREE RECEIVE OVER, UH, OVERVIEW OF CHILDCARE ROUND TABLE MEETING, UH, ON, UH, JUNE 5TH, MR. MASON FROM 35 YEARS TO GET YOUR CEMETERY WRITTEN.
CHAIRMAN PHILLIPS, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
MIKE MASON, MASON COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
UH, ITEMS 12.3 AND 12.4 ARE CLOSER, CLOSELY RELATED.
UH, 12.3 IS REALLY JUST TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE CHILDCARE ROUND TABLE MEETING THAT WAS HELD ON JUNE 5TH AT, UH, CHIN BAY FIELD STATION.
UM, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UH, PARTICIPATED, SUPERVISOR DE GEORGE'S WAS THERE.
SO JUST, UM, TO KIND OF RESET WHAT THIS MEETING WAS ALL ABOUT, THE PURPOSE WAS TO PROVIDE AN OPEN FORUM FOR EMPLOYERS IN THE NORTHERN PORTION OF MACK TO DISCUSS THEIR WORKFORCE'S, CHILDCARE NEEDS WITH COUNTY REPS, UH, LOCAL CHILDCARE PROVIDERS, LEGISLATORS, AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS, WITH REALLY A GOAL OF IDENTIFYING SOLUTIONS FOR IMPROVING CHILDCARE AVAILABILITY IN THAT AREA.
UH, THE COUNTY, UM, PART OF OUR SLIDES, WE ANNOUNCED
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THAT WE INTENDED, UH, UH, AT LEAST ON USING THE INFORMATION GLEANED FROM THIS MEETING TO HELP SCOPE THE NEXT ROUND OF CHILDCARE EXPANSION GRANTS THAT THE COUNTY, UH, IS PLANNING TO OFFER.UH, AND, AND WHEN WE GET INTO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, UH, WE WILL TALK ABOUT HOW WE TOOK SOME OF THAT INFORMATION TO HEART AND, AND, AND DEVELOPED IT INTO, UH, WHAT WE INTEND ON INCLUDING IN THAT PROGRAM.
SO, JUST TO RECAP, WHO WAS THERE.
UH, WE INVITED 30 ENTITIES, UM, TO PARTICIPATE.
WE WERE FOCUSED ON LARGE, UH, PROVI OR LARGE EMPLOYERS IN THE AREA.
WE HAD, UH, FOUR OUT OF FIVE LICENSED PROVIDERS.
WE HAD, UH, THE YMCAS WERE REPRESENTED.
WE HAD, UH, REPS FROM THE AEROSPACE INDUSTRY, NASA, UH, COMMUNITY NONPROFITS.
WE HAD, UH, LOCAL AND FEDERAL LEGISLATORS AT THE TABLE.
WE HAD THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM, AND WE HAD THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
UH, IN TOTAL, WE HAD, UH, 28 ATTENDEES WHO, WHO CAME TO THE MEETING.
UH, JUST TO KIND OF SUMMARIZE THE TAKEAWAYS FROM WHICH, WHAT TURNED INTO ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF, ALMOST TWO HOUR DISCUSSION WAS, UH, WHILE THERE IS A GENERAL LACK OF AVAILABILITY OF SERVICES IN THE NORTHERN END OF ACK, THERE IS EVEN A GREATER NEED FOR INFANT CARE AND SERVICES THAT DON'T FOLLOW A TRADITIONAL NINE TO FIVE SCHEDULE.
AND, AND THAT WAS EMPHASIZED NUMEROUS TIMES.
UH, AS YOU ALL MAY VERY WELL KNOW, NASA HAS, UH, PUT ITS OWN CHILDCARE FACILITY BEHIND THE FENCE AND IS ACTIVELY TRYING TO GROW THAT, THAT, UH, THAT FACILITY.
UH, THEY DO NOT PROVIDE INFANT CARE.
UH, THAT'S ONE AREA THAT, UH, UH, THEY DON'T PROVIDE.
AND TO MY UNDERSTANDING, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY DO ANYTHING OUTSIDE, UH, WHAT, WHAT I WOULD REFER TO AS A TRADITIONAL SCHEDULE.
SO EVEN AS NEW PROVIDERS ARE COMING INTO THE AREA, THIS NEED FOR THESE, UH, TARGETED SERVICE AREAS STILL, UH, IT, THERE'S A GREAT NEED THERE.
UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE THROWN OUT DURING THE DISCUSSION WERE FOR THE COUNTY AND SCHOOLS TO CONSIDER LEVERAGING SOME OF ITS PROPERTY.
'CAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP WAS COST, RIGHT? IT'S EXPENSIVE TO OPERATE A FACILITY.
IT'S EXPENSIVE TO BUILD A FACILITY.
SO WHAT CAN THE COUNTIES, WHAT CAN ANY GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY WHO'S, WHOSE OPERATION IS BASICALLY AT RISK BECAUSE OF CHILDCARE AVAILABILITY NEEDS, WHAT CAN THEY DO TO HELP INCENTIVIZE IT? SO THAT, THAT WAS TOSSED AROUND, UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT LICENSURE REQUIREMENTS.
AND AGAIN, YOU'RE NOT THE LICENSING ENTITY, THAT'S THE STATE.
UH, BUT THERE WERE CERTAINLY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT SOME OF THOSE LICENSURE REQUIREMENTS BEING VERY BURDENSOME, AND ALSO THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT TAKES TO GET THROUGH THE LICENSURE PROCESS AND, UM, INCLUDING THE INSPECTION PROCESS.
AND I THINK, UH, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WHEN THE BOARD PUTS TOGETHER ITS NEXT LEGISLATIVE AGENDA THAT YOU MAY WANT TO LOOK AT A FEW, AND I HAVE A FEW REGULATIONS THAT I THINK, UH, WE, MAYBE, MAYBE THE BOARD, ONCE I EXPOSE YOU TO THEM, MAY WANT TO THINK ABOUT ASKING YOUR, YOUR STATE LEGISLATORS TO CHAMPION AT LEAST A REVIEW OF THEM, BECAUSE THEY ARE, THEY ARE INHIBITING SERVICES.
UM, AND THEY ARE PARTICULARLY ON A SMALL PROVIDER.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING THAT SOME EMPLOYERS ARE WILLING TO RESERVE PAY FOR SLOTS IN ADVANCE SO THEIR EMPLOYEES HAVE ACCESS WHEN NEEDED.
SO THEY'RE NOT EVEN, THEY'RE IN SUCH, UM, A BAD POSITION, REALLY, THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO PURCHASE SLOTS THAT MAY NOT EVEN BE USED JUST TO HAVE THEM SO THAT THEIR EMPLOYEES HAVE A PLACE THAT THEY CAN TAKE THEIR CHILDREN WHEN NEEDED.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I, I, I TYPICALLY SEE, BUT CERTAINLY THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA FOR WHAT THE NEED IS, UM, PARTICULARLY AT THE NORTHERN END, UH, STAFF REPORT.
SO SUMMARY FROM THAT AG FROM THAT MEETING OVERALL AGREEMENT WAS EVIDENT.
THERE WAS A NEED FOR, UH, ADDITIONAL SERVICES.
NOBLE INFANT CARE AND, AND AFTERSCHOOL CARE, UH, DISCUSSION AT THE MEETING WAS VERY INTERACTIVE.
UM, EACH CONCERN OBSTACLE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS DISCUSSED ACCORDINGLY.
AND, AND SOLUTIONS WERE BATTED AROUND.
UM, BETWEEN THE, THE PARTICIPANTS, THERE WAS CONS, CONSENSUS ON LICENSING DIFFICULTIES.
UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S ONLY ONE STATE EMPLOYEE ASSIGNED TO THE SHORE WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR INITIAL LICENSES, LICENSING INSPECTIONS, AND, AND THERE'S A, A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL BACKLOG, UM, WHICH SLOWS THE PROCESS DOWN.
AND THEN A NUMBER OF THE PROVIDERS POINTED OUT JUST THE COST INVOLVED FOR JUST APPLYING FOR LICENSE IS SIGNIFICANT WITH NO GUARANTEE
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OF BEING APPROVED.UH, SO THOSE WERE SOME THINGS, UM, THAT, UH, CAME OUT AS A SUMMARY, AND WE TRIED TO TAKE THOSE.
AND, AND IF, IF I MAY, CHAIRMAN, UH, I'LL JUST ROLL INTO 12 FOUR, PLEASE.
WE, WE TOOK SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THIS GROUP, AND WE HAVE, UH, LAYERED THEM INTO, UH, AGENDA ITEM 12.4, WHICH IS CONSIDER ADOPTING A CHILDCARE, UH, CHILD DAYCARE INCENTIVE PROGRAM, UH, TERMS AND CONDITIONS, AND INCREASING THE CURRENT APPROPRIATION FOR THE PROGRAM THAT, UH, YOU ALREADY APPROVED IN TERMS OF BUDGET BY $75,000.
AND, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND.
SO, THE CHILD DAYCARE INCENTIVE GRANT PROGRAM BEFORE THE BOARD, UM, IT, IT SEEKS TO PROVIDE INCENTIVE GRANTS FOR THE CREATION OF NEW CHILDCARE SLOTS IN ACK COUNTY.
AND SO IT CAPITALIZES ON THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE GAINED WHEN WE DID THIS, UH, A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO.
BUT WHEN, WHEN, WHEN THE COUNTY STOOD UP ITS LAST PROGRAM, IT WAS UNDER THE AUSPICES OF ARPA, AND THE FEDERAL REGULATIONS GAVE US SOME AUTHORITY THAT WE DON'T TYPICALLY HAVE.
UM, NOW THAT ARPA IS GONE, WE'RE BACK TO WHERE WE TRADITIONALLY ARE.
AND IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THESE TYPE OF GRANTS, WE NEED A PARTNER WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ISSUE THEM.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE EDA COMES IN, INTO PLAY.
THIS, UH, PROPOSED PROGRAM IS REALLY A COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE EDA.
IT COMBINES THE ADA'S AUTHORITY TO PROVIDE GRANTS TO ORGANIZATIONS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES WITH THE COUNTY'S ABILITY TO MANAGE THAT PROGRAM AND TO FUND IT.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE MARRIAGE BETWEEN THE TWO ENTITIES COMES IN PLAY, AND THAT'S REFLECTED IN THE TERMS OF AND CONDITIONS THAT YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE TONIGHT.
UH, THE PROPOSED ELIGI ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA FOR THIS PROGRAM ARE LISTED IN, IN THAT LONG-TERM AND CONDITIONS DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAD ATTACHED TO YOUR AGENDA.
BUT I, I PICKED OUT THE, THE FOUR MOST SIGNIFICANT ONES.
UH, AGAIN, KNOWING THAT THERE ARE MORE, I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THESE FOR YOU.
UH, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING WITH THIS GRANT PROGRAM IS, UH, YOU, IN ORDER TO BE ELIGIBLE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO AT LEAST CREATE 15 NEW SLOTS, OKAY? THIS IS NOT ABOUT SUBSIDIZING EXISTING SLOTS.
THIS IS ABOUT CREATION OF ADDITIONAL SLOTS.
UM, THOSE NEW SLOTS WOULD'VE TO BE ESTABLISHED AND AVAILABLE TO PARENTS AND GUARDIANS NO LATER THAN ONE YEAR AFTER THE AWARD.
UH, CRITERIA NUMBER TWO, UH, QUALIFYING CENTER SHALL HAVE TO PUT FORTH PLANS WHERE, UH, THEY'RE MAINTAINING THOSE SLOTS FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE LICENSED, YOU WOULD'VE TO BECOME LICENSED, OR YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE, YOU'D HAVE TO FOLLOW THE REGULATIONS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH EXEMPTION.
AND THERE'S, THAT'S A VERY TIGHT WINDOW.
UM, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, UM, MOST PROVIDERS ARE, ARE GONNA HAVE TO BECOME LICENSED ACCORDING TO THE COMMONWEALTH REGS, UM, CRITERIA FOR, UH, THE, UH, CHILD DATA CENTER SHALL ADOPT AND IMPLEMENT A POLICY THAT ENSURES EQUAL ACCESS.
SO, UM, IF, IF A PRIVATE EMPLOYER WAS TO STEP FORWARD AND APPLY FOR, UH, FOR A GRANT TO PROVIDE CHILDCARE JUST TO ITS EMPLOYERS, IT'S NOT GONNA SATISFY THAT REQUIREMENT.
IT'S GOTTA BE OPEN TO EVERYONE EQUAL ACCESS.
THAT'S WHY EVEN LET, LET'S JUST FIRST FOR A MINUTE, ASSUME THAT THE NASA FACILITY, THE NASA CHILDCARE FACILITY WASN'T THERE.
NASA CAME FORWARD AND ASKED FOR A GRANT.
AGAIN, ACCESS IS RESTRICTED TO THEIRS.
THEY, THEY HAVE A PRIORITIZATION'S BEHIND THE FENCE, WOULDN'T MEET THIS EQUAL ACCESS, UM, CRITERIA.
UH, SO IF, IF APPLICATIONS CAME FORWARD AND THEY, UH, MET ALL THOSE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS, WE WOULD APPLY A REVIEW PROCESS, AND THAT REVIEW PROCESS WOULD INVOLVE A LATEST SCORING SYSTEM.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE FOCUSED ON IS A LOCATION, THE EXPERIENCE OF THE APPLICANT, THEIR ABILITY AND DI THEIR DEMONSTRATE ABILITY BECOME LICENSED.
THERE'S OTHER ONES THAT WOULD BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.
THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE NEW FACILITY IS IMPORTANT.
WHILE THIS PROGRAM DOES NOT, IF YOU LOOK AT TERMS AND KIT CONDITIONS, IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT NORTHERN MACK.
BUT THAT IS WHERE WITH THIS NEXT ROUND WE'RE REALLY TARGETING.
BECAUSE DURING YOUR FIRST ROUND OF GRANTS, YOU DID CREATE SLOTS, BUT THOSE SLOTS WERE PRETTY CENTRAL TO AKIMA COUNTY.
WE STILL HAD THIS CHILDCARE DESERT AT THE NORTHERN END, WHICH IS WHY WE CHOSE TO HAVE THE, UH, CHILDCARE ROUND ROUNDTABLE UP AT THAT END.
AND THAT'S WHY, UM, PROPOSED LOCATION IS, IS GOING TO, UM, BE, UH, EVALUATED TO MAKE SURE IT'S, IT'S GOING IN THE AREA WHERE THE GREATEST NEEDS ARE.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE APPLICATIONS, UH, THE EDA
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HAS BEEN BRIEFED ON THIS PROGRAM.UM, THEY HAVE NOT VOTED ON IT YET.
UH, THEY ARE GOING TO, AT AT LEAST WHERE WE LEFT IT AT THEIR LAST MEETING, THIS WILL BE ON THEIR NEXT AGENDA, UH, FOR THE REGULAR MEETING, WHICH WILL BE IN JULY.
AND THE EDA IS GONNA CONSIDER THESE SAME TERMS AND CONDITIONS.
SO AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S A, A, IT'S A PROGRAM WHERE WE HAVE THE EDA AND THE COUNTY CORROBOR OR COLLABORATING, AND IT'S A, A PROGRAM WHERE BOTH ENTITIES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO APPRO OFFICIALLY APPROVE THE PROGRAM IF IT'S TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO THAT KIND OF SUMMARIZES THE PROGRAM, PER SE.
ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT CAME UP DURING THE MEETING, UH, UP AT THE NORTHERN END WAS THAT THE, WHEN WE LAST DID A GRANT PROGRAM, WE HAD MAXIMUM GRANTS OF $150,000, UH, FOR A, UH, FOR A POTENTIAL PROVIDER.
UH, THE OVERWHELMING STATEMENT AT, AT THE LAST MEETING WAS, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH CONSIDERING PRICE ESCALATION CONSIDERING, UM, THE COST OF FACILITIES, PARTICULARLY AT THE NORTHERN END, UH, MOST OF THE PROVIDERS THERE, UH, INDICATED SOMEWHAT, UM, COVERTLY
SO, TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT AND LOOKING AT, AT OUR BUDGET, WHAT I'M RECOMMEND THAT THE BOARD CONSIDER DOING, YOU'RE, YOU ALREADY HAVE APPROPRIATE $150,000 FOR THIS PROGRAM.
I, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER INCREASING IT TO 225,000 TO, AGAIN, TAKE IN, TAKE INTO ACCOUNT CHILD DELIVERY COST AND, AND THE FEEDBACK THAT CAME OUT OF THAT MEETING.
UM, AND IF YOU DO THAT, THIS AMOUNT WILL SERVE AS A MAXIMUM GRANT AMOUNT AVAILABLE TO ANY, ANY APPLICANT.
SO A AGAIN, WITH, WITH THIS AGENDA ITEM, I WAS LOOKING FOR TWO THINGS TO HAPPEN, AT LEAST PROPOSING.
ONE IS FOR THE BOARD TO PRO, UH, APPROVE THE PROGRAM'S TERMS AND CONDITIONS.
UM, AND THE, THE SECOND THING WAS TO APPROPRIATE ADDITIONAL 75,000 FOR THE PROGRAM, UM, BRINGING THE MAXIMUM GRANT TO 225,000.
AND THE SOURCE IN YOUR, IN YOUR AGENDA WAS, UM, EXCESS INVESTMENT EARNINGS TO, TO FUND THIS.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE EXTENT OF MY COMMENTS ON, UH, 12.3 AND 12.4.
WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE, MR. CHAIR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE STAFF, UH, INCLUDING THE, UM, INCREASED GRANT AMOUNT TO $225,000.
I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT.
UM, I JUST THINK, UH, THAT'S WHAT ONE OF THE THINGS I DO IS DO CHILDCARE.
THAT'S WHEN THE PROGRAM BY ADMINISTER IN NORTHAMPTON COUNTY.
BUT I JUST, UH, WANT TO AFFORD, UH, ACK COUNTY FOR BEING A TRENDSETTER.
UH, I KNOW SOME OTHER ENTITIES OR SOME OTHER AREAS THAT MAY BE MORE ECONOMICALLY ADVANTAGE, I GUESS I SHOULD SAY, HAVE TAKEN SOME STEPS.
UH, AS FAR AS CHILDCARE, CHILDCARE IS BECOMING BIG BUSINESS.
AND ALSO CHILDCARE IS ONE OF THOSE, UH, THINGS THAT HE ON THE SHORE, OR ESPECIALLY HERE IN AKIMA COUNTY THAT I'M FOCUSING ON RIGHT NOW.
AKIBA COUNTY IS CONSIDERED A DESERT.
THAT'S NOT ADEQUATE FOR ANY TYPE OF CHILDCARE OR ANYTHING.
MOST OF THE STUFF IN ABA COUNTY ARE CENTERED IN THE MIDDLE, OR EITHER THE LOWER PA PART OF AKIMA COUNTY.
AND, UH, I JUST THINK WE ARE BEING VERY PROACTIVE, UH, WHEN WE HAVE PUT THIS AS PART OF OUR, UH, IN OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR.
I JUST THINK IT'S EXCELLENT BECAUSE, UH, NOT JUST 'CAUSE I DO CHILDCARE, BECAUSE IT IS NEEDED.
UM, THEY HOLLER ABOUT PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANNA WORK.
GOD HAS SOMEBODY TAKE CARE OF THE CHILDREN
SO, YOU KNOW, UH, I JUST THINK WE'RE BEING, UH, AND I WANT TO COMMEND OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, UH, IN GETTING THOSE PERSONS TO THE TABLE AND, AND SEEKING AND, UH, BEING, UH, FORTHRIGHT IN, IN DOING THIS.
UM, DISTRICT TWO HAS ALWAYS FELT AS IF WE WERE SORT OF THE LOST CHILD.
MY PEOPLE WILL BE SO HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THIS BOARD IS PUTTING FORTH AN EFFORT WHERE THEY CAN SIT BACK AND GO, HEY, LOOK, THEY DO THINK ABOUT US.
THIS IS A SERVICE THEY TRULY, TRULY NEED.
AND THEY WILL APPRECIATE WHAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE FOR 'EM.
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THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.ARE YOU GONNA NOT DO 12 FIVE? 12 FIVE IS MS. PROCTOR? OH, THAT'S MS. PROCTOR.
CONSIDER SENDING PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTER 82 OF THE AIMA COUNTY CODE TO INCORPORATE CHANGES IN THE STATE LAW RELATED TO COLLECTION, UH, REMINI OF TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAXES.
MR. PRO, WELL ASSUMING, OH, YES.
THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
THE AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU INCORPORATE CHANGES MADE IN 2023 AND 2025, UM, TO THE STATE LAW, WHICH GOVERNS TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAXES.
BASICALLY WHAT THE 2025 BILL DID WAS, OR IS GOING TO DO EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST IS ALLOW ACCOMMODATIONS PROVIDERS, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO OWN OR, OR PROVIDE THE, THE HOUSING, THE SHORT TERM DWELLING UNITS ALLOW THEM TO BE EXEMPTED FROM HAVING TO FILE ANY TYPE OF REPORT ON THEIR GROSS RECEIPTS EARNED FROM LEASING OUT THEIR PROPERTY.
IF THEY FILE AN ANNUAL, UH, AFFIDAVIT STATING THAT ALL OF THEIR RENTALS ARE FACILITATED BY WHAT'S CALLED AN ACCOMMODATIONS INTERMEDIARY, AND THAT WOULD BE YOUR AIRBNB AND SO FORTH.
AND SO RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE REPORTING THE GROSS RECEIPTS, BUT THE LAW DOESN'T ACTUALLY SAY UP UNTIL JULY 1ST THAT THE OWNERS, THE PROVIDERS DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE A REPORT.
SO THIS WILL ALLOW THEM NOT TO FILE REPORTS AS THEY ARE NOT DOING.
THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGES IN THERE.
MOST OF THEM ARE FROM 2023, AND THAT'S WHERE THEY ADDED ALL THE DEFINITIONS ABOUT ACCOMMODATIONS IN INTERMEDIARIES AND ACCOMMODATIONS PROVIDERS.
SO YOU NEED A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS? NO, BECAUSE THERE'S NO INCREASE IN THE TAX.
DAN, HERE RECOMMENDATION IS SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING.
WELL, WE CAN HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
OUR KIND ADMINISTRATOR KIND OF STEPPED OUTTA LANE.
NO, HE, HE WAS ACTUALLY, WE BOTH THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER THERE, THAT THERE SHOULD BE A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT LEGALLY THERE IT'S NOT REQUIRED.
UH, ALL IN FAVOR? A ALL OPPOSED, MOTION CARRIED.
CAN ADMINISTRATOR REPORT MR. MASON? MOST OF THESE ARE INFORMATIONAL ITEMS UNTIL YOU GET TO THE LAST TWO.
UM, SO, UH, STARTING OFF, UH, JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON OUR PROGRESSIONALLY DIRECTED SPENDING AND COMMUNITY PROJECT FUNDING APPLICATIONS.
THESE ARE, I, I STILL REFER TO THEM AS A FEDERAL EARMARK PROGRAM, BUT WE DID, AS THE BOARD KNOWS, SUBMIT, UH, PROPOSED APPLICATIONS FOR, UH, BRINGING, WELL, FIRST THERE WAS THE, UM, ACCESS ROAD INTO THE WILDS RESEARCH PARK.
THAT WAS ONE OF OUR PROPOSED PROJECTS TO ACCESS THE REAR OF, OF THE PARK, WHICH CURRENTLY DOESN'T HAVE AN ACCESS ROAD.
UH, THE SECOND PROJECT WAS TO BRING, UH, NATURAL GAS FROM MARYLAND INTO VIRGINIA THAT YOU ALL WILL RECALL THAT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY IS APPROPRIATED PRETTY LARGE, UH, SUM, BUT IT WASN'T THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT, UH, DELEGATE BLOCKS SOME WHO WAS ADVOCATING FOR THIS ASKED FOR.
SO WE TRIED TO, TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO FILL THAT GAP BETWEEN THE AMOUNT THAT WE ACTUALLY ARE SLATED TO RECEIVE AND, AND WHAT THE REQUEST WAS.
WE HAVE, UH, BEEN NOTIFIED THAT, UH, WARNER AND KANE HAD A JOINT SUBMISSION SITE.
THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO ADVANCE THE ACCESS ROAD TO THE NEXT ROUND.
DOESN'T ENSURE IT'S GONNA BE FUNDED, BUT YOU HAVE TO GET THROUGH THE FIRST CUT, IF YOU WILL.
UM, WE DO NOT KNOW THE OUTCOME OF, OF OUR APPLICATION WITH, UM, CONGRESSWOMAN KEEGANS, WHO WE ALSO SUBMITTED APPLICATIONS THROUGH, BUT AT LEAST AT THIS POINT WE DO.
WE DO KNOW THAT ONE OF THE APPLICATIONS HAS, HAS BEEN SELECTED TO CONTINUE FURTHER INTO THE PROCESS, WHICH IS, WHICH IS GOOD NEWS.
UH, ANOTHER INFORMATIONAL ITEM.
THE CENTER FOR RURAL VIRGINIA WILL HOLD ITS BOARD MEETING HERE ON THE EASTERN SHORE ON AUGUST EIGHT AT THE VIRGINIA SPACE OFFICE.
MARS COMP, UH, VIRGINIA'S LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR IS EXPECTED TO ATTEND.
UH, WE, THE COUNTY HAS BEEN ASKED TO PROVIDE
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A PRESENTATION.WE WILL, WE WILL NOT BE THE ONLY ONES PRESENTING THERE.
IT LOOKS LIKE A FAIRLY LONG DAY.
UM, BUT WE, WE WILL BE REPRESENTED AND, UM, CERTAINLY WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
AND IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO PARTIC THAT, PARTICIPATE IN THAT MEETING, CERTAINLY, UM, COMMUNICATE WITH TINA AND WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN MAKE THE ARRANGEMENTS.
UH, 13 THREE IS WHAT THE PICTURE'S ALL ABOUT.
UH, OUR SAWMILL PARK HAS A, HAS A RESURFACE PICKLEBALL COURT.
UM, IT ALSO HAS A, A NEW OVERLAY UNDERNEATH THE PAVILION.
THIS WAS THE, THE NEW PICKLEBALL COURTS.
UM, BUT THERE'S ALSO A NEW OVERLAY UNDERNEATH THE, THE ENTIRE AREA WHERE THE CONCRETE SLAB WAS, HAS BEEN OVERLAID.
AND THE PROJECT ON THAT SIDE IS NOT COMPLETELY DONE YET.
THERE'S GONNA BE, UM, A SURFACE TREATMENT TO REDUCE THE HEAT FROM ASPHALT BECAUSE IT'S, THERE'S NO SHADE OUT THERE, AND THAT ASPHALT JUST REALLY HEATS UP.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE A TREATMENT TO, TO DO THAT.
BUT THAT, UH, IF, IF, IF YOU GET A CHANCE, GO OUT THERE AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT REALLY LOOKS GOOD.
AND IT'S GETTING A LOT OF PO POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM FOLKS.
UH, SO THESE ARE, THESE ARE TWO, UM, ITEMS FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER.
AND, AND I'LL, I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON BOTH AS WE GET THROUGH.
UH, THE FIRST ONE WAS CONSIDERED DIRECTING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO DRAFT A LETTER TO OUR FEDERAL LEGISLATORS REQUESTING THEY MAKE EVERY ATTEMPT NECESSARY TO RESTORE THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE LIFEGUARD, UM, SERVICES ON AZTEC AND IF NECESSARY FOR THE COUNTY, CONSIDER O OTHER OPTIONS FOR PROVIDING THESE SERVICES FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE SEASON.
SO E EVEN IF THE BOARD VOTES TO MY, TO, TO ASK, TO DIRECT ME TO, TO SEND A LETTER, I CAN TELL YOU I'VE ALREADY COMMUNICATED THIS ISSUE TO SOME OF OUR FEDERAL LEGISLATORS.
FOR INSTANCE, I'VE BEEN, UM, I'VE HAD AN EMAIL EXCHANGE WITH CENTRAL WARNER'S OFFICE REGARDING, UM, THE LACK OF LIFEGUARD SERVICES ON ACETIC.
UH, I'VE ALSO BEEN IN, IN CONVERSATION WITH THE TOWN MANAGER, TOWN MANAGER FOR THE TOWN OF HIN DIG, WHO'S REALLY TAKEN THE LEAD ON ALL THIS.
UM, WE HAD BEEN EXPLORING, UM, WITH HIM BEING THE POINT PERSON OPTIONS, UH, IN CASE THERE'S JUST NOT GONNA BE A FEDERAL SOLUTION ON THIS SIDE AND, AND WHAT THAT MAY LOOK LIKE.
I CAN TELL YOU A COUPLE OF OPTIONS THAT WE'VE EXPLORED.
UM, ONE OPTION, AND, AND, AND BY THE WAY, ALL THESE OPTIONS WERE, WERE PUT FORTH WITH THE CAVEAT THAT IT TAKES ABOARD ACTION TO, TO MAKE THEM HAPPEN.
BUT ONE OF THE FIRST OPTIONS, WE SAID, OKAY, WHAT IF THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY PARTNERED, UM, FINANCIALLY TO FUND THE SERVICES FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR? UM, AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IS SOME, SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY, A TRIPARTY AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY, THE TOWN AND NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, UH, WHERE THE COUNTY AND THE TOWN WOULD PAY FOR SOME, IF NOT ALL THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH PROVIDING SERVICES THAT RAN INTO ROADBLOCKS RIGHT AWAY.
THERE'S A FEDERAL HIRING FREEZE.
UH, NATIONAL PARK SERVICE ALSO SAYS THEY'VE LOST SOME KEY STAFF THAT MANAGE THE PROGRAM.
IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S GOT A PATH FORWARD RIGHT THERE.
UH, THE OTHER OPTION THAT, UH, THAT HAS BEEN PUT FORTH AND STILL BE VETTED IS A COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE THREE PARTIES WHERE, UH, THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE WOULDN'T BE PROVIDING FTES.
WHAT THEY'D BE DOING IS ALLOWING US AND, AND THE TOWN TO PROCURE THOSE FTES.
THEY WOULD BE ALLOWING ACCESS AND FOR US TO USE SOME OF THEIR EQUIPMENT.
UH, THAT SEEMS TO HAVE, UH, MORE CHANCE OF, OF MOVING FORWARD.
THE, THE PROBLEM WITH ANY OF THESE SOLUTIONS IS YOU GOTTA FIND THE RESOURCES MIDWAY THROUGH THE SEASON.
AND, AND, AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HIRING OUR OWN PERSONALITIES AT THIS POINT.
WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIND DIFFERENT COMPANIES AND THERE ARE, THERE ARE SOME OUT THERE THAT PROVIDE LIFEGUARD SERVICES AND PROCURE THEM, UM, TO PROVIDE, UH, THE SERVICES ON ACETIC.
SO THAT'S WHAT'S BEING LOOKED AT RIGHT NOW.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE CONTINUED TO EXPLORE ANY AND ALL OPTIONS THAT WE CAN TO, TO GET THE SERVICES BACK THERE, BUT, UM, THAT, THAT LADDER OPTION THAT I MENTIONED SEEMS TO BE THE ONE WITH THE MOST LEGS AT THE MOMENT.
MR. MASON, HAS ANYBODY EVER COME UP WITH A, WITH A DOLLAR FIGURE OR A EMPLOYEE, YOU KNOW, FULL-TIME.
WE, WE KNOW WHAT THE LIFEGUARDS WERE MAKING WHEN NATIONAL PARK SERVICE WAS EMPLOYING THEM, BUT WE'RE, YOU GOTTA FACTOR IN LIABILITY AND ALL THESE OTHER COSTS.
SO THROUGH SOLICITING PROPOSALS FROM QUALIFYING COMPANIES, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GONNA GET THE NUMBERS AND THEN I'LL BE ABLE TO BRING THAT BACK FORWARD, UH, BACK BEFORE THE BOARD SO THAT YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION.
YES, MR. MASON, YOU'VE MENTIONED THE FEDERAL HIRING FREEZE.
UH, JUST POINT OUT, SO IT'S ON THE RECORD THAT THE, WHEN, UH, CONGRESSWOMAN HIGGINS PUT THE QUESTION TO THE
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SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR LAST WEEK, HIS RESPONSE WAS THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR WAS ALLOWING FOR SEASONAL HIRES AND WE SHOULD FALL UNDER THAT.SO THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO HIRE.
SO YOU MAY NEED TO REMIND OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS OF THAT, THAT THEIR BOSS THINKS THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO HIRE
UH, 13 FIVE IS CONSIDERED DIRECTING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO DRAFT A LETTER TO OUR FEDERAL LEGISLATORS REQUESTING THEY OPPOSE FEDERAL BUDGET CUTS NEGATIVELY IMPACTING THE NA NASA WHILE'S FLIGHT FACILITY.
AND BY DEFAULT, THE OVERALL AKIMA COUNTY ECONOMY AND WELLBEING OF ITS CITIZENS.
WE ALL KNOW HOW IMPORTANT, UH, NASA, ALL, ALL THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING ON, ON THE BASE AND ON WILD ARE TO AKIMA COUNTY FROM JUST SO MANY DIFFERENT ANGLES.
UH, WE'VE ALL SEEN THE, THE PRESS RELEASES, WE'VE SEEN THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN REAL, UH, PUT FORTH AS FAR AS REDUCTIONS AND, AND, AND REDUCTIONS AND OUTRIGHT ELIMINATIONS, SOME SERVICES.
UH, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF TIME LEFT AND A LOT OF DISCUSSION THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL BEFORE WE REALLY KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME IS.
BUT IT MAY BE A GOOD TIME FOR, FOR THE BOARD TO GO ON RECORD, UM, WITH THE FEDERAL LEGISLATORS.
UH, JUST TO STATE YOUR POSITION ON THIS, UH, AGAIN, IT, UH, WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY MULTIPLE SOURCES IS THERE'S TIME FOR THIS TO PLAY OUT, BUT AGAIN, I DON'T THINK YOU WANNA WAIT IN TOWARDS THE END UNTIL YOU MAKE YOUR, YOUR POSITION KNOWN ON THE MATTER.
ANY COMMENTS? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TODAY WE LET HIM DO THAT.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT BOTH 13 FOUR AND 13 FIVE? ABSOLUTELY.
IS THAT, IS THAT THAT WHITE? ABSOLUTELY.
I HAVE ONE, ONE QUESTION CONCERNING 13.4, MIKE.
THE, UH, THE LIFEGUARDS, WE WON'T, WE DON'T MEET UNTIL THE MIDDLE OF JULY.
IF YOU CAN WORK THIS OUT BEFORE THEN ABSOLUTELY.
CALL A SPECIAL, UH, SPECIAL SESSION, UM, SPECIAL MEETING FOR THE BOARD TO COME IN TO APPROVE IT.
SOMETHING WE HAVE TO, SOMETHING WE HAVE TO ACT ON.
13 SIX IS MY, MY CATCHALL AGENDA ITEM.
I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS JUST AGAIN, UH, THINGS TO PUT FORTH.
UM, JUST LAST WEEK WE WERE NOTIFIED THAT, UH, WE'VE BEEN AWARDED A $50,000 PLANNING GRANT FOR THE WISHERS POINT COMMUNITY.
I THINK THAT CAME IN FOR, I, UH, AND, AND THE PURPOSE OF THAT PLANNING GRANT IS TO DETERMINE AND DOCUMENT THE CONTINUING HOUSING NEEDS FOR THE COMMUNITY AT WISHERS POINT IN AKIMA COUNTY TO DEVELOP A PLAN FOR ADDRESSING THOSE NEEDS.
AND WE WOULD RELY HEAVILY ON OUR, OUR PARTNERSHIP, OUR TRADITIONAL PARTNERSHIP WITH A-M-P-D-C.
UH, I PLAN ON PUTTING THAT AGREEMENT ON YOUR NEXT AGENDA FOR, FOR APPROVAL BY THE BOARD.
BUT AGAIN, I JUST, IT JUST CAME IN THE OTHER DAY AND, AND, AND JAN JUST FINISHED HER LEGAL REVIEW OF IT, SO IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T READY, UH, FOR IN TIME TO, TO GET IT ON THIS AGENDA.
UH, AND, AND JUST A, JUST A QUICK NOTE ON THE OLD LIBRARY AND OUR PLAN TO, TO UTILIZE THAT, THAT BUILDING FOR THE, THE, FOR THE FUTURE HOME OF THE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UH, WE, YOU ALL THE, THE PRESS PICKED UP THE IMPROVEMENTS AND, AND DID AN ARTICLE ON IT.
UM, THAT I, I THINK OF THOSE, WHAT'S BEEN DONE SO FAR AS SORT OF THE SHELL OF THE BUILDING.
UM, WE HAVE ENGAGED AN ARCHITECT TO HELP US PLAN OUT THE INTERIOR AND, UH, WE GOT OUR FIRST DRAFT, UM, I THINK IT WAS LAST WEEK.
BUT IN ANY CASE, WE, WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF COMMENTS AND WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, WORK SOME OF THE, THE ISSUES OUT THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED.
BUT MY PLAN IS ONCE WE GET IT PAST JUST THE INITIAL DRAFT STAGE, WE'RE GONNA BRING IT BACK FOR YOU FOR, FOR COMMENTS.
SO, UH, JUST KNOW THAT IT'S STILL BEING DEVELOPED AND WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT OPTIONS.
I, I WILL SAY THAT THE BUILDING DOES SEEM TO HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM AND WILL GIVE, GIVE US ACCESS UNLESS SOMETHING REALLY CHANGES TO SOME MEETING SPACE THAT WE, WE REALLY NEED FOR OTHER FACILITIES.
I MEAN, THIS, THIS IS THE LARGEST ROOM WE HAVE TO DO ANYTHING IN.
UM, AND SO, UH, WE HOPE THAT LEVERAGING THE SPACE THAT USED TO BE THE CHILDREN'S ROOM AND THE OLD LIBRARY, WE, WE ARE EXPLORING OPTIONS FOR USING THAT FOR, FOR SPACE THAT CAN HAVE SEPARATE LOCKOUT, UH, ABILITY.
SO WE COULD HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AT NIGHT WITHOUT EXPOSING ACCESS CONCERNS TO THE REST OF THE BUILDING.
SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT ARE BEING LOOKED AT.
AGAIN, ONCE WE GET IT A LITTLE FURTHER ALONG, THEN WHAT IT IS WE NOW WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU FOR, FOR COMMENT.
AND, AND THAT IS, UH, THE EXTENT OF MY REMARKS TONIGHT.
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ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.UH, SUPERVISOR COMMENT, WE'LL START ALL THE WAY TO THE LEFT.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT US SAY HALF OF JUNETEENTH, WHICH WILL BE ON TOMORROW, UH, TO ALL OF YOU.
ALSO, I WENT TO, I DID ATTEND, UH, THEN DO A HIGH SCHOOL'S, UH, GRADUATION.
AND I JUST TRIED TO, UH, WELL, I KNOW, UH, SUPERVISOR CROCKETT WENT TO
SOMETIMES OUR PRESENCE NEED TO BE AT, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.
I JUST, I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION.
UM, AND ALSO I ALSO, I'VE REPRESENTED, UM, THE COUNTY AS FAR AS ON SH T WHEN, UM, SENATOR WARNER WAS HERE.
UH, I, I WENT AND IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE AND, AND THE YOUNG GENTLEMAN WHO, UH, JOB WAS BEING CUT OR, UM, HE WAS THERE AND HE SPOKE VERY PASSIONATELY ABOUT HIS JOB AND HOW EFFECTIVE HE HAD BEEN, UH, IN DOING THAT JOB.
AND HE, YOU KNOW, WENT ON TO ASK SENATOR WARN OR ONE OR TWO, YOU KNOW, DO ALL THAT HE COULD DO.
AND, UH, I'M JUST GLAD TO SEE THAT WE AS A BOARD ARE DOING SOMETHING, UH, FOR THOSE LIFEGUARDS.
I JUST THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S TOO DANGEROUS.
HAVE SOMETHING AND NOT HAVE LIFEGUARDS OUT THERE.
SO I JUST WANT TO THANK THE COUNTY, WHATEVER, TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
AND THEY GOT YOUR GOOD SIDE ON THAT PHOTO THAT CAME OUT WITH YOU,
I DIDN'T EXPECT THAT PHOTO SHOOT, BUT I, YOU KNOW, POLITICALLY I THINK THAT WAS VITAL TARGET
JUST ONE COMMENT, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I WANNA THANK STAFF AGAIN IF WE THANK THEM BEFORE IN THE PAST FOR THE WORK THEY DO, WE HEAR COMMENTS ALL THE TIME ABOUT HOW SMOOTH OUR MEETINGS ARE.
THEY'RE SMOOTH BECAUSE OF STAFF.
THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WORK YOU DO.
AND, AND TONIGHT, TODAY'S MEETING IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE.
SO, SO STAFF, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DO.
THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENT, JUDGE.
WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MS. ROCK.
UH, YOU SENT ME AN INTERESTING EMAIL ABOUT HOUSE BILL 2128, SENATE BILL 1476, DEALING WITH DERELICT AND BLIGHTED PROPERTIES.
I THOUGHT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IT, BUT I, I GUESS THE QUESTION COMES DOWN TO IS THERE ANY REAL ADVANTAGE FOR US TO PRO TO GO AFTER AND EXPLORE IF THIS WOULD BE A GREAT HELP TO THE COUNTY TO GET RID OF DERELICT AND BLIGHTED BUILDINGS? HOW DO I ASK, DO YOU PROCEED TELLING US OR WHAT'S THE PROCESS? I, SO I KNOW THESE ARE MAJOR ISSUES THAT COMPLAIN.
WE CAN, WE CAN DEVELOP A PROGRAM.
I BELIEVE I COPIED THE EMAIL TO ALL OF YOU.
THERE ARE A LOT OF PROCEDURAL STEPS THAT HAVE TO BE TAKEN.
THEY HAVE, OF COURSE, IT HAS TO BE VACANT FOR FIVE YEARS, SO WE WOULD NEED SOME WAY OF VERIFYING THAT.
UM, TAXES, OF COURSE WE WOULD GET FROM THE TREASURER, BUT WE DO HAVE TO GO TO COURT AND GET A COURT ORDER, WHICH IS, IS FINE BY ME.
AND THAT WOULD FALL ON OUR OFFICE AND WE, WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
SO WE CAN START TO DEVELOP DEVELOPER PROGRAM FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
AND, AND OF COURSE, THE BOARD WOULD DECIDE WHETHER TO PURSUE IT.
I MEAN, I THINK INTERESTING IS TO LOOK INTO IT WAS NOT FEASIBLE.
IT A PRACTICAL, PRACTICAL IS IS UP TO YOU,
SO WE CAN BASICALLY IDENTIFY WHATEVER BUILDINGS WE WANT AND KEY IN ON 'EM.
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSE TOO.
WISH I WAS SMART ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND IT.
ONE, I WANT TO, WE KIND OF GLOSSED OVER IT, BUT THE, THE NEW OPPORTUNITY FOR A HISTORICAL MARKER FOR THE WHITESVILLE SCHOOL, I THINK IS A REALLY GREAT, UH, UH, GREAT THING TO HAPPEN TO THE COMMUNITY THERE TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, THAT SCHOOL WHICH HAD SUCH A RICH HISTORY THAT HONESTLY I DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL I READ IT.
SO THAT WAS THE GOOD NEWS FOR THE PARSLEY AREA AND, AND THE COUNTY.
UM, SECONDLY, REGARDING THE FEDERAL BUDGET CUTS, AS SOMEONE WHO'S A FISCAL CONSERVATIVE AND IS ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT OUR NATIONAL DEBT, WHO ALSO HAS WORKED FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR MANY YEARS, $150 MILLION ISN'T EVEN AN ERROR FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
BUT TO AKIMA COUNTY GETS HUGE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK I COULD GIVE 'EM A LOT OF OTHER PLACES TO FIND $150 MILLION THAT WOULDN'T IMPACT OUR NASA AND OPS OPERATION.
SO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO REACH OUT TO,
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UH, ANYONE THAT'LL LISTEN, ESPECIALLY OUR FEDERAL REPRESENTATIVES, TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THE, THE IMPACT HERE IS WORSE.YOU KNOW, IT'S LITERALLY THE, THE, THE CURE.
IT'S WHAT IS IT? THE, UH, MEDICINE IS WORSE THAN THE CURE.
UM, THE OTHER ITEM I'D ADD REAL QUICK IS REGARDING LIFEGUARDS.
UM, DON'T FORGET THAT AS A CITIZEN, YOU CAN REACH OUT TO THE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR.
YOU CAN FIND THAT NUMBER ONLINE.
AND THIS IS, IF IT'S A PUBLIC, IF YOU DEEM IT TO BE A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE, WHICH I PERSONALLY DO, SINCE IT'S A NOTIF, IT'S A RESERVED SWIMMING BEACH THAT'S STILL ALLOWING SWIMMING.
AND THEY'VE PULLED THE LIFEGUARDS AND, AND HONESTLY, IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE ERROR.
NOBODY IN LEADERSHIP KNEW THEY DID THAT OR ASSESSED THE IMPACT, AND IT'S JUST NOT WORKED.
SO APPRECIATE THE COUNTY'S WORK ON THAT AND AMAZING WORK ON THE CHILDCARE FORUM.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO RECOMMEND, UM, COME TO STAFF JUST THANKING THEM FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THEY DO DO AND ON TO MARCH, CELEBRATING JUNETEENTH AS WELL AS ATTENDING THEIR ARCADIA HIGH SCHOOL, UH, CLASS, UH, RE ARCADIA HIGH SCHOOL'S GRADUATION ON LAST WEEK.
IT WAS, WE HAVE SOME VERY BRIGHT, UM, BRIGHT STUDENTS IN AKIMA COUNTY AND THEY ARE TO BE COMMENDED.
IT WAS, UM, VERY, I WAS VERY WELL, UH, GLAD I ATTENDED.
UH, HOW ABOUT CONSIDER, UM, A AMENDING, UH, 25 26 BUDGET MOVE.
OPPOSED? UH, 16 ONE CONSIDER PAYABLES.
CAN WE PAY OUR BILLS, MR. MASON? AYE.
SO WE DO HAVE A CLOSED SESSION.
IT SHOULD BE VERY, VERY, VERY QUICK, BUT WE DO HAVE A CLOSED SESSION.
SO IF YOU WOULD, MS. JUSTICE? YES.
I MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION.
PURSUIT TO VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 0.8 0.1.
DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF PERSONAL PERSONNEL MATTERS PERTAINING TO THE PERFORMANCE AND COMPENSATION OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND COUNTY ATTORNEY.
DO HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION PROPERLY.
ALL RIGHT, MEMBERS, UH, LET'S GO BACK INTO, UH, I DUNNO HOW YOU DO IT.
I'M CERTIFIED TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS.
LAWFULLY ACCEPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS FROM VIRGINIA LAW AND ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS.
WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSED SESSION WAS CONVENED, WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED IN THE MEETING.
WE ARE NOW BACK IN OPEN SESSION.
I KNEW THAT WE, UH, ALSO GIVE THE 3%, UH, UM, INCREASE AS WELL AS THE 1.5, UH, BONUS TO OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AS WELL AS OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO ADJOURN.
ALL OPPOSED, SURELY THERE NONE.