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SEPTEMBER 17TH MEETING OF THE AIMA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.[Board of Supervisors on September 17, 2025.]
YOU WOULD PLEASE, IF YOU DO HAVE A CELL PHONE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, IF YOU EITHER PLACE IT ON SILENT OR TURN IT OFF AT THE DURATION OF THE MEETING.AND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, UH, STAND AND JOIN US FOR OUR INVOCATION AND OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
DEAR GOD BLESS THIS MEETING AND ALLOW US TO DO OUR WORK FOR YOUR WILL.
TO THE FLAG, THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
I AIN'T, UH, ONE FOUR ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA.
BEFORE WE MOVE THAT IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.
CHAIRMAN PHILLIPS, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS A COUPLE CHANGES TO THE, UH, PUBLISHED AGENDA.
UH, THE FIRST CHANGE IS REMOVAL OF ITEM 5.6.
THERE'S SOME PROCEDURAL ISSUES WITH THAT, UH, THAT NEED TO BE, UH, UH, TAKEN CARE OF BEFORE IT'S UP FOR VOTE IN FRONT OF THE BOARD.
SO WE WOULD, UH, ASK THAT YOU REMOVE THAT FROM THE AGENDA.
AND ALSO JUST A NOTE THAT UNDER ITEM 5.3, WHICH IS A, UH, REZONING REFERRAL TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, WE DID AFTER THE FACT INCREASE THE AMOUNT THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE REZONING IN THE INITIATING REFERRING RESOLUTION FROM 167 ACRES TO APPROXIMATELY 369 ACRES.
SO JUST THE AGREEMENT STAY THE SAME, ROUGHLY.
IT'S JUST THE ACREAGE CHANGED AND THAT'S ALL WE WANTED TO POINT OUT ON THAT ONE.
THANK YOU MR. WITH A MOTION CHAIRMAN, MOVE THE AGENDA WITH THOSE CHANGES.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION PROPERLY SECONDED TO, UH, ADOPT THE AGENDA.
MOTION CARRIES PUBLIC COMMENTS.
ONE CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES.
SECOND, UH, TO CONSIDER ME, UH, MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 20TH, UH, MEETING OF ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
WE DO TONIGHT HAVE A STAFF REC, UH, RECOGNITION
DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
AS YOU MAY RECALL, YOUR ACTIONS LAST MONTH AUTHORIZED THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO COLLABORATE WITH THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE TO ENSURE THAT ASITE NATIONAL PARK AND SEASHORE WOULD BE READY FOR THE LABOR DAY WEEKEND.
IN THE AFTERMATH OF HURRICANE AARON, CLEANING UP AND RESTORING PARKING AREAS WAS CRITICAL TO MAKE SURE VISITORS COULD ENJOY THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND.
AT THE TIME OF YOUR MEETING ON AUGUST 20TH, THE PARKS, THE PARK AND BEACHES WERE STILL CLOSED.
AND LABOR DAY WEEKEND WAS NINE DAYS AWAY ON TUESDAY, AUGUST 26TH, THE COUNTY PROVIDED BOTH A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AND A HEAVY EQUIPMENT OPERATOR TO ASSIST NP S'S STAFF.
WE CONTINUED THE SUPPORT THROUGH FRIDAY, AUGUST 29TH, ENSURING THAT THE PARK REOPENED AT 2:00 PM ON LABOR DAY WEEKENDS.
WHILE WE DIDN'T EXPECT YOU TO MEET THE BULLDOZER, WE CERTAINLY WANTED YOU TO MEET THE COUNTY EMPLOYEE WHO PROVIDED THE INVALUABLE ASSISTANCE OVER THOSE FOUR DAYS, AND WHOSE RETURN WAS REQUESTED BY NPS FOR ONE ADDITIONAL DAY OF WORK ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 2ND.
THAT EMPLOYEE IS JASON BLESSING.
JASON RECENTLY CELEBRATED 22 YEARS OF SERVICE WITH THE COUNTY, MAKING THAT MILESTONE THIS PAST JULY, HE HAS BEEN A DEDICATED MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM WITH A FOCUS ON LANDFILL AND TRANSFER STATION OPERATIONS.
SINCE HIS HIRE, JASON'S EXPERTISE AND SKILLFUL OPERATION OF COUNTY EQUIPMENT WERE KEY IN CREATING AN ADDITIONAL 150 PARKING SPOTS FOR VISITORS DURING THAT HOLIDAY WEEKEND.
WE OFTEN DISCUSS COLLABORATION, INTERAGENCY AGREEMENTS AND TEAMWORK DURING YOUR MEETINGS AND AGENDAS.
BUT I KNOW YOU AND THAT AS BOARD MEMBERS, YOU VALUE PUTTING A NAME OF FAITH AND A WEALTH OF EXPERIENCE TO THOSE EFFORTS.
JASON'S CONTRIBUTIONS ARE A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF SUCH COLLABORATION.
JUST LIKE THE MANY FIRST RESPONDERS AND DEPUTIES WHO ENSURE SAFETY DURING ROCKET LAUNCHES, OR THE LANDSCAPING TEAM WHO DELIVERS VOTING EQUIPMENT TO PRECINCTS AHEAD OF ELECTION DAY.
THOSE BEHIND THE SCENES EFFORTS HAPPEN DAILY FROM ONE CORNER OF THE COUNTY TO ANOTHER.
SO THE NEXT TIME YOU FIND YOURSELF NAVIGATING
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A PARKING LOT WITH MOUNDS OF PLOWED SNOW OR NEWLY FORMED SAND DUNE, I'D LIKE YOU TO PICTURE JASON IN THE OPERATOR'S SEAT CLEARING THE WAY WITH THAT BULLDOZER.JASON, WE NOT ONLY APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS ON THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT, BUT ALSO, AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW I DID THE MATH, THE 44,000 PLUS HOURS THAT YOU'VE DEDICATED OVER THE PAST 22 YEARS AS A BAYLOR OPERATOR, HEAVY EQUIPMENT OPERATOR AND LANDFILL CREW MEMBER, WHATEVER YOUR TITLE, YOUR HARD WORK AND SERVICE TO THE COUNTY IS INVALUABLE.
AND WE DIDN'T WANT THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PASS WITHOUT PUBLICLY SAYING THANK YOU.
AND WE DO, JASON, WE APPRECIATE YOUR ADDITIONAL SERVICES.
WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE, I KNOW THE BEACH GOERS.
I KNOW THEY APPRECIATE IT TOO.
I THINK HIS LAST NAME WAS APPLICABLE TO HIS CHARACTER,
EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK IT OVER.
WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? MOVE THE SECOND OKAY.
WITH THE, WITH THE AMENDMENT? YES.
WE WILL, UH, WE HAD A MOTION PROPERLY SECONDED WITH THE, UH, WITH THE REMOVAL OF 5.6.
OH, WE HAVE A REPORT FROM PUBLIC OFFICE.
RECEIVE OUR ANNUAL REPORT FROM VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY.
SEEMS LIKE YOU WERE JUST HERE.
SO, UM, I THINK, UH, KNOW EVERYONE HERE AND ANYWAY, I'M ROBBIE LEWIS.
I'M THE AREA FORESTER FOR THE SHORE COVER.
ALL THE COUNTY GUYS COME IN AND TALK TO WHATEVER BOARDS IN THEIR COUNTIES OR IT GOTTA STAY RELEVANT.
WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF OPERATING UNDER THE RADAR.
SO I'LL GIVE YOU SOME IDEA OF STUFF THAT WE'VE DONE SINCE I WAS IN HERE LAST YEAR AND I'LL MAKE THIS QUICK.
SO WE, WE WOUND UP DOING A WHOLE BUNCH OF, UH, DIFFERENT COST SHARE PLANS.
UM, UM, A LOT OF NATURAL REGENERATION DOCUMENTATION.
OF COURSE, WE WATCH ALL THE HARVEST AREAS THAT ARE DONE.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S TAILED OFF SOME, WE'RE THINKING IT'LL, IT'LL START BACK UP AGAIN PRETTY SOON.
THE, UH, SAWMILLS ARE BUYING A LOT OF WOOD UP IN MARYLAND, SO WE DON'T SEE THE LOGGERS DOWN HERE.
IT, IT BOTHERS ME A LITTLE BIT 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THAT'S INCOME NOT COMING INTO THESE FAMILIES THAT OWN WOODLAND.
UM, ANYWAY, ADDED ALL UP FOREST MANAGEMENT PLANS, TREE FARM INSPECTIONS, ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF.
WE HAD A TOTAL OF 5,385 ACRES THAT WE HAD A, A HAND IN INFLUENCING THE MANAGEMENT ON.
UM, WE ALSO WERE INVOLVED WITH TREE FARM.
I'M, I'M A, I'M THE CO-CHAIR OF TREE FOR TREE FARM COMMITTEE FOR VIRGINIA BOARD.
SO I'M ONE OF THE CO-CHAIRS FOR THE AREA FROM BRUNSWICK COUNTY UNDER THE JAMES ALL THE WAY OVER TO US.
SO I SPENT TWO DAYS RIDING WITH AN AUDITOR THAT'S NOT REAL FUN.
WE HAD, UH, EIGHT TRACKS SCATTERED FROM HERE OVER TO BRUNSWICK.
THREE OF 'EM WERE HERE, TWO IN MACK, ONE IN NORTHAMPTON.
EVERYTHING'S, ALL THE STANDARDS WERE MET.
UH, THE AUDITOR WAS HAPPY WITH EVERYTHING HE SAW, AND WE GOT HIM BACK TO RICHMOND AND ON THE PLANE AND GONE, EVERYTHING WAS GOOD.
SO, SAYING THAT WE HAD, UH, SEVEN WILDFIRES THAT WE RESPONDED TO IN THIS COUNTY.
UM, ONE WAS LIGHTNING, THE REST WERE OOPS.
AND PEOPLE, I CAN'T EXPLAIN IT.
UH, AND, UH, JUST KIND OF WRAPPING THIS UP, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN INSTRUCTED TO, WE, WE'VE GOT A NEW BRANCH IN OUR HEADQUARTERS.
IT'S THE WORKING LANDS AND CONSERVATION BRANCH.
ALRIGHT, SO THESE ARE FOLKS THAT, THEY'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF INFORMATION.
WHATEVER YOU MIGHT NEED, UM, I, I PASS ALONG THE INFORMATION WHEN YOU'RE DOING PROJECTS THAT MIGHT INVOLVE ANY KIND OF FORESTRY, INFORMATION COVER INDUSTRY, WHATEVER YOU, WHATEVER YOU NEED, JUST LET ME KNOW AND WE WILL GET YOU ALL HOOKED UP WITH, WITH THE RIGHT PERSON IN HEADQUARTERS TO HELP YOU WITH THAT.
SO, UM, I WANTED TO MAKE THIS QUICK.
UM, ANYWAY, DON'T, DON'T FORGET THAT I'M THERE.
UM, YOU GOT, UH, IT'S LIKE THE MAYTAG REPAIRMAN.
SO GOT FRESH OUT OF THE BOX, UH, CARDS FOR YOU THERE.
IF YOU NEED ME, JUST GIMME A CALL.
WHEN, WHEN, WHEN A STAND OF PINES ARE, ARE CUT OR REMOVED, HOW LONG, WHEN THEY, AND TO REPLANT IT, HOW
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LONG DOES IT NORMALLY TAKE FOR THAT STAND OF TREES? THE NEW TREES, UH, SO THEY CAN BE HARVEST.SO IF IT'S THIN, IF IT'S PRE COMMERCIALLY THIN AT YEAR FIVE AND THEN FOLLOWED UP WITH A THINNING AT YEAR 20 TO 25, YOU CAN HAVE TIMBER IN 45 TO 50 YEARS.
IF YOU DON'T TAKE CARE OF IT, IT'S GONNA BE 60 TO 65.
REALLY? BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL FIGHTING.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE SURE THEY'RE ALL PUSHING AGAINST EACH OTHER, BUT IF THEY'RE THIN, THE ONES THAT ARE LEFT STANDING, OUR PROBLEM IS INDUSTRY'S TAILED OFF AND IT'S VERY HARD TO GET THINGS THINNED.
THAT'S, MAY I, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK IS WHAT DO YOU, WHAT, WHAT'S BEHIND MORE, MORE LUMBER HARVESTING IN MARYLAND THAN IT IS IN VIRGINIA? WE NEED ANOTHER MILL.
ALL OUR WOOD HAS TO GO TO MARYLAND, RIGHT? IT ALL DOES.
I THINK IT'S A THIRD SAW MILL, BUT I'VE NOT SEEN, WHEN THEY'RE BUYING TIMBER DOWN HERE, ALL THE WOOD GOES TO THEM.
THAT'S THE SAW TIMBER, THAT'S THE BIG STUFF.
THEY'RE CUTTING THAT INTO 10 BY TENS, 12 BY TWELVES THAT GOES TO GET TREATED.
AND IT'S USED FOR HEAVY CONSTRUCTION OR, UH, YOU KNOW, MARINE USE, BIG BULKHEADS, THAT KIND OF THING.
AND THEN THE PULP WOOD, THE SMALLER TREES THAT GOES UP TO, RIGHT THAT, THAT BIG LOG PILE.
YOU SEE IT POKE MO THE FOOT OF THE BRIDGE THERE.
UH, THAT'S EASTERN STORE FORCE PRODUCTS.
IT GETS DRIED AND TURNED INTO A LIGHT, FLUFFY SHAVING KIND OF THING.
IT'S USED FOR POULTRY BEDDING.
AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, TRACTOR SUPPLY BUYS A LOT FROM THEM FOR THOSE, THOSE LITTLE ROUND BALES, PET BEDDING.
THERE'S, THERE'S TWO CREWS THAT FEND FOR THEM AND IT'S HARD TO GET 'EM TO, TO COME BACK DOWN, END, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S TOUGH NOW.
SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE HERE ABOUT EVERY SIX MONTHS.
AND YOU ALWAYS MENTION, WE, WE, WE, HOW MANY OF YOU IS IT ON THE, IT'S JUST TWO OF US.
SO WHEN, WHEN IT'S, UH, WHEN WE GET DRY WEATHER AND WE GET CAUGHT ON FIRES, BOTH OF US ARE AT THERE.
WE'VE GOT FOUR PART-TIME FOLKS TO HELP US.
UH, TWO OF 'EM ARE FIREFIGHTERS WITH THE COUNTY.
THEY HELP US IN THEIR, IN THEIR OFF TIME.
AND IT'S ANOTHER TWO THAT HAVE BEEN WITH US FOR YEARS.
AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL RUN THE DOZERS FOR WITH US AND, AND, UH, HELP PUT EYEBALLS ON US.
ANYTHING ELSE I CAN ANYBODY ELSE HELP YOU WITH? UH, NO.
PROFESS CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT.
ALRIGHT, GOING DOWN TWO NUMBER NINE.
NUMBER ONE, I RECEIVED, UH, PRELIMINARY, UH, INTERIOR DESIGN OF COMMUNITY AND, UH, ECONOMIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUILDING OF OUR OLD LIBRARY.
I'M, UH, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORK.
SO I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH LEE ON THIS PROJECT, SO I'M JUST GONNA GIVE YOU A COUPLE UPDATES ON THE STATUS OF THE PROJECT.
AND THEN LEE'S GONNA EXPLAIN THE KIND OF OVERALL LAYOUT AND FUNCTION OF THE BUILDING.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE EXTERIOR HAS BEEN RENOVATED.
UH, WE COMPLETED THAT BACK IN SPRING OF 2025, EXTERIOR BRICK CLEANING.
WE GOT ALL NEW WINDOWS, EXTERIOR DOORS, A NEW 50 YEAR FLAT ROOF, AND A NEW SHINGLE ROOF.
AND WE, IF YOU NOTICE, WE REMOVED THE DORMERS FROM THE, FROM THE BUILDING, NEW GUTTERS.
AND WE DID SOME TREE TRIMMING AROUND THE BUILDING TO CLEAN IT UP.
AND THEN WE REMOVED ALL THE FLOORING CONTAINING ASBESTOS.
UM, THE BEGINNING DOES I HIT THIS BUTTON HERE.
SO THIS IS ALL THE INFORMATION I JUST WENT OVER.
UH, BEGINNING BUDGET AT 1.4 MILLION.
WE'RE DOWN TO ABOUT 900, UH, ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS RIGHT NOW.
AND, UH, THE ESTIMATED, UH, DESIGN, UH, TURNAROUND TIME IS, SHOULD BE NOVEMBER 25TH.
UH, WE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT DELAYED ON THAT.
AND WE'RE CURRENTLY AT 35% DESIGN RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN HERE WE GOT SOME PICTURES OF THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING.
AS IT STANDS, IT LOOKS REALLY BIG IN THIS, SO LEE'S GOTTA GO OVER THIS, BUT WE'LL SAY WE'VE ALREADY GOT A CONTRACTOR ON BOARD, SO WE SHOULD, ONCE THE DESIGN'S DONE, THEN, UH, HOPEFULLY THIS YEAR WE'LL BE GOING INTO CONSTRUCTION, UH, EARLY NEXT YEAR.
DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THE, UH, SURE.
FUNCTIONABILITY, I'M LEE PAM, A DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
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AND, UH, THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO REALLY BE A GAME CHANGER FOR US IN ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, NUMBER ONE, THE DEPARTMENT IS SPLIT BETWEEN TWO BUILDINGS.WE'VE GOT THE HOUSE RIGHT NEXT DOOR THAT USED TO BE A LAW OFFICE.
AND JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS WALL IS WHERE OUR CODE ADMINISTRATION FOLKS, UM, UH, DISCHARGE THEIR DUTIES.
SO BESIDES THAT OBVIOUS DEFICIENCY, ONE OF THE OTHER OBVIOUS DEFICIENCIES IS OUR ABILITY TO, UH, TO PROPERLY AND COMFORTABLY RECEIVE THE PUBLIC.
SO IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN INSIDE THIS SPACE OVER HERE, IT'S, IT'S LITERALLY THIS MUCH SPACE BETWEEN THE BACK WALL OR THE WALL FOR THE CORRIDOR AND THE IN THE FRONT COUNTER.
SO WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF WAITING SPACE OR WAITING AREA.
UM, THE, THE FIRST THING THAT I JUST WANTED TO MENTION IS THAT THIS DESIGN HAS GOT 22 SEATS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
AND I'LL EXPLAIN SOME OF THOSE SEATS AS I GO CLOCKWISE AROUND THE, UH, BUILDING HERE.
UM, MY STAFF, I CURRENTLY HAVE 13 ON STAFF.
I AM AUTHORIZED THE STRENGTH OF 19.
SO THERE IS GOING TO BE ROOM, EVEN IF I, UH, IF I WAS FULLY STAFFED, THAT THERE WOULD STILL BE ROOM FOR, FOR EXPANSION UP TO THOSE 22 SEATS AND BEYOND.
SO 22 SEATS IS NOT THE, IS NOT THE MOST THAT THIS, UH, THAT THIS DESIGN CAN FIT.
UM, AGAIN, WITH THE NEW CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE, MORE SEATING.
WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY GOOD PLACE FOR INFORMATION RACKS, SO BROCHURES, UH, FORMS, THAT KIND OF THING.
UM, UH, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE CUSTOMER WORKSTATIONS.
WE'VE GOT ONE OVER IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND PLANNING BUILDING, AND THEN WE HAVE ONE HERE.
AND THEY'RE JUST KIND OF STUCK IN THIS CORNER.
WHEREVER WE'VE GOT SPACE IS WHERE WE FIT THEM.
UH, THEY DON'T REALLY GET A WHOLE LOT OF USE, I SUSPECT, BECAUSE, UH, BECAUSE IT'S JUST SO CRAMPED AND IT'S NOT VERY CONDUCIVE TO, UH, UH, TO THEIR WORK WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO FILL OUT FORMS OR TRYING TO FIND OUT INFORMATION ON THE INTERNET.
UM, ONE OF THE OTHER, UH, HIGHLIGHTS OF THIS FLOOR PLAN IS, UH, IS THE SECURED ACCESS.
SO THAT'S THIS BULLET POINT HERE AND THE SECURED ACCESS.
WE'VE GOT, UM, PUBLIC SPACES HERE IN THIS BLUE AREA AND THEN THIS BLUE AREA RIGHT HERE.
BUT, UM, ONE OTHER THING THAT AN EXPANDED CUSTOMER, UH, SERVICE DESK WILL ALLOW US TO DO IS TO SURGE AN ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE IN TIMES OF HIGH VOLUME.
AND WE CERTAINLY EXPECT THAT OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS BASED OFF OF SOME OF THE MAJOR APPLICATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING.
UM, AGAIN, GOING CLO UH, I SAID COUNTERCLOCKWISE SECURED ACCESS HERE.
SO WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF CONSULTATION ROOMS HERE, UH, IN THE PUBLIC AREA THAT ARE SEPARATED FROM THE STAFF AREAS, WHICH ARE NOT HIGHLIGHTED.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER DOOR HERE THAT WOULD SEPARATE THE STAFF AREAS FROM THE PUBLIC AREAS.
THOSE CONSULTATION ROOMS ARE INTENDED TO, UH, ARE INTENDED TO PROVIDE A SPACE FOR THE STAFF TO RECEIVE THE PUBLIC THERE.
IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A TABLE WITH FOUR CHAIRS, ESSENTIALLY.
AND, UM, THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO, UH, NOT HAVE TO BRING FOLKS BACK INTO THE STAFF AREA.
WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD FOLKS WHO HAVE ESSENTIALLY INVITED THEMSELVES INTO THE STAFF AREA WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT BEING INVITED OR WITHOUT PERMISSION.
SO IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH OUR SPACE OVER HERE, THERE'S JUST THIS SWINGING DOOR AND FOLKS WILL SOMETIMES JUST PUSH THEIR WAY RIGHT ON IN.
AND, AND WE'VE HAD TO ASK, UH, WE'VE HAD TO ASK FOLKS TO LEAVE ON OCCASION.
UH, THIS OPEN OFFICE AREA HERE IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING A HOTEL AREA OR A BULLPEN FOR THE INSPECTORS.
INSPECTORS TYPICALLY SPEND MOST OF THEIR TIME IN THE FIELD, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUILDING INSPECTORS, THE ZONING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.
UM, AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, UH, TWO CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ON THE BUILDING SIDE.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, ADVERTISING FOR TWO MORE.
AND THERE WILL BE AGAIN, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO ADD DESKS IF WE NEED TO ADD, UM, IF WE NEED TO ADD SPACE, UH, ALONG THOSE LINES.
AGAIN, NO DEDICATED OFFICES FOR THOSE WHO SPEND MOST OF THEIR TIME IN THE FIELD.
UH, THIS WORK ROOM IS INTENDED FOR, UH, LARGE PLANS.
UH, IF WE NEED, IF WE NEED AN AREA TO, TO, TO REALLY SPREAD OUT, THEN WE CAN DO THAT THERE.
AND THAT THAT CAN ALSO BE AN AREA FOR FUTURE EXPANSION FOR ADDITIONAL STAFF.
WE'VE GOT A STORAGE AREA HERE.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT SEVERAL FILES THAT ARE STORED IN, UH, IN, IN THESE, UH, UH, SHEDS THAT ONE MIGHT BUY AT LOWE'S.
AND IT'S NOT REALLY A GOOD, UH, IT'S, IT'S NOT A GOOD ENVIRONMENT TO KEEP FILES, AND WE CERTAINLY HOPE TO, UH, WE CERTAINLY HOPE TO BRING THOSE IN.
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OTHER NEW AMENITIES INCLUDE LARGE CONFERENCE ROOMS, UH, ONE LARGE CONFERENCE ROOM HERE, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A BREAK ROOM, AND HERE IS A STAFF BATHROOM WITH SHOWER.AND SOMETIMES WE DO HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE IN THE FIELD, IF THEY'RE TROMPING AROUND IN THE WOODS OR IN THE MUD OR ON THE BEACH AND THEY NEED TO COME BACK AND JUST CLEAN OFF, THEN WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SHOWER FOR THEM.
THIS CORRIDOR RIGHT HERE, WE ASK THE ARCHITECT TO WIDEN.
SO, UH, FIRST OF ALL, THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, OOPS.
THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IS THE CHILDREN'S AREA.
AND, UM, WE HAVE DIVIDED THAT INTO THREE SPACES, AN EXTRA WIDE CORRIDOR FOR TABLES AND SEATING.
IF WE'RE HAVING AN EVENT AND WE NEED TO DO SOME SORT OF REGISTRATION TABLE, OR WE'VE GOTTA DO AN EX UH, UH, A DISPLAY TABLE FOR EXHIBITS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UH, THIS IS WIDER THAN YOUR STANDARD CORRIDOR.
WE'VE GOT THE TWO MEETING ROOMS. WE'VE GOT A LARGE MEETING ROOM AND A, UM, AND A SMALLER MEETING ROOM.
AND YOU SEE THE FIGURES UP HERE.
THE LARGE MEETING ROOM IS 1,287 SQUARE FEET WITH A SMALLER ONE BEING 900 SQUARE FEET.
BY COMPARISON, THIS ROOM THAT WE'RE SITTING IN NOW IS 630 SQUARE FEET, SO THAT WILL BE AN IMPROVEMENT.
UH, AND, UH, AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE PUBLIC MEETINGS IN A, IN A ROOM LARGER THAN THAT.
IS THAT THAT WALL GONNA BE FIXED? THAT'S NOT GONNA BE A TEMPORARY WALL.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S FIXED BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S A FIXED WALL.
SO, UM, UH, JEREMY IS EXACTLY RIGHT.
WE ACTUALLY ASKED THAT QUESTION.
CAN WE, CAN WE PUT THAT, CAN WE PUT A, UH, A ROOM DIVIDER IN THERE? AND, UM, THERE ARE BUDGETARY CON UH, CONSIDERATIONS THERE.
THOSE ARE ACTUALLY KIND OF EXPENSIVE AND MAYBE THAT COULD BE DONE IN THE FUTURE, BUT THIS WALL COULD, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S NOT A LOAD BEARING WALL, SO IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE REMOVED TO DO THAT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE IF WE DECIDE TO PHASE A, UH, A ROOM DIVIDER IN, UM, THIS ENTRANCE RIGHT HERE DOES NOT EXIST, BUT AS YOU ALL KNOW, THERE'S A PARKING LOT OUT HERE.
UH, UH, ACTUALLY WE'VE GOT 22 PARKING SPACES NOW, BUT THIS WOULD BE A, UM, A SEPARATE ENTRANCE IF WE WERE TO HAVE AFTER HOURS MEETINGS.
AGAIN, THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IS SECURED FROM THE REST OF THE, UM, FROM THE REST OF THE, OF THE BUILDINGS.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
AND JEREMY AND I CAN FIELD ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AT THIS TIME.
I, I HAVE ONE LEE, I SAW WHERE THE, I GUESS IT WAS THE FINAL, UH, DRAFT OF THE DESIGN WAS IN, IN DECEMBER OR NOVEMBER.
WHAT, WHEN IS YOUR TURNKEY, UH, DATE? WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU'LL BE READY TO, TO MOVE IN THERE? WELL, WE WE'RE HAVING A COUPLE DELAYS ON THE DESIGN RIGHT NOW AT THAT, THAT DATE.
UH, NOVEMBER, UH, 25TH IS WHAT, OOPS, SORRY, SORRY.
UH, IS KIND OF THE ORIGINAL SCHEDULE.
UM, BUT WE ALREADY HAVE A CONTRACTOR UNDER CONTRACT.
WE'RE DOING THIS THROUGH THE JOB ORDER CONTRACTING METHOD.
SO IT IS KIND OF DEPENDENT ON THEIR SCHEDULE COME BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
YOU GOT A BALLPARK? UM, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY AT LEAST FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS TO, FROM BEGINNING TO END.
UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I KNOW YOU GAVE IT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA, I, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS CAPACITY, I, I KIND OF, I MEAN, I CAN GUESSTIMATE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOU THINK AS FAR AS THE CAPACITY OF THOSE.
I, I FIGURED THAT QUESTION BE ASKED.
I TRIED GETTING THAT INFORMATION FROM THE, UH, THE ENGINEER.
I WASN'T ABLE TO GET IT IN TIME, BUT IT'S ALL BASED ON FIRE CODE AND THAT SPACE AND THE, THE EXIT.
SO I, I, I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION RELATED TO MIKE.
UM, I KNOW YOU SAID YOU HAVE PROBLEMS WITH, UM, PUBLIC COMING IN.
SO WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN GO AND WHERE THE STAFF IS, IS THAT THAT AREA'S GONNA BE SECURED.
MAYBE YOU SAID THAT I MISSED THAT.
IS THAT AREA'S GONNA BE SECURED AS WELL? IT WILL BE SECURED AND IT'LL BE SECURED WITH SOME SORT OF A KEY CARD ACCESS.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING WITH OUR, WITH OUR ID.
SO PROXIMITY CARDS, JUST SWIPE OR, UM, OR WAVE AND THAT DOOR WILL UNLOCK.
BUT TYPICALLY, UM, UH, STAFF, YOU KNOW, OCCASIONALLY WE'LL RECEIVE FOLKS IN THE STAFF AREA, BUT MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, THESE CONSULTATION ROOMS SHOULD, RIGHT.
SHOULD MAINTAIN THAT SEPARATION.
AND I GUESS I LIKEN THEM ON THE SOCIAL SERVICES WORLD AND I LIKEN THEM TO INTAKE ROOMS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, BUT MM-HMM
WHERE YOU CAN BRING, I LIKE THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE ARCHITECT ALSO CONSIDERED WAS THE, WAS THE SECURITY ASPECT OF THE STAFF.
JUST, IF, IF I MAY JUST OFFER ONE MORE COMMENT.
UM, AND, AND LEE MENTIONED IT, UH, WHEN HE WAS UP HERE, BUT ONE OF THE BEAUTIES OF THIS BUILDING TO ME FROM A CUSTOMER SERVICE PERSPECTIVE
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IS IT TURNS PERMITTING IN STORE IN, INTO SORT OF A ONE STOP SHOP.RIGHT NOW, A LOT OF FOLKS WHO COME THROUGH THE DOOR, EITHER OVER IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS BUILDING, ARE HERE IN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, THEY'RE NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THEY NEED, WHAT PERMITS DID THEY, WHERE DID THEY GO.
AND SO ONE STOP SHOP, YOU COME IN THE FRONT DOOR, THERE'LL BE SOMEONE TO GREET YOU AND BASICALLY TRIAGE WHATEVER YOUR, UH, QUESTIONS ARE AND GET YOU IN TOUCH AND INTO THE HANDS OF THE RIGHT PEOPLE WITHOUT HAVING TO ASK YOU TO TURN AROUND AND MARCH BACK OUT ACROSS THE PARKING LOT, OVER TO ANOTHER BUILDING.
SO, UH, WE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EMPLOYEE SECURITY AND CERTAINLY THAT IS, UH, A, A VERY IMPORTANT, UH, ISSUE HERE.
BUT WE'RE ALSO TAKING HUGE LEAPS IN CUSTOMER SERVICE WITH THE DESIGN OF THIS BUILDING AND HAVING MORE CONFERENCE SPACE AVAILABLE IN THE COUNTY, WHICH WE SO EARLY NEED NOT ONLY FOR THE BOARD WHEN YOU HAVE LARGER, BUT FOR OTHER GROUPS WHO NEED, UH, SPACE TOO.
AND HAVING THAT SEPARATE LOCKOUT FACILITY IS, IS A GREAT ALSO MR. MASON THEN, THEN HELP WITH WHAT THEY CALL SUN ENERGY.
IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN YOU COMBINE TWO INTO INTO ONE, YOU CAN, YOU CAN POSSIBLY SAVE OR UTILIZE ONE PERSON FOR TWO.
UH, WHICH RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY RECEIVING IN THAT BUILDING AND SOMEBODY RECEIVING IN THIS, IN THIS BUILDING.
WHEN YOU BRING THEM BOTH TOGETHER, THEN IT ONLY TAKES ONE PERSON TO BE ON THE RECEIVING SIDE IN THAT ONE BUILDING.
WOULD THAT BE CORRECT? NO, THAT, THAT'S, UH, EXCELLENT POINT.
THIS IS PROBABLY FOR LEE OR UH, JEREMY, I HAVE A NEW BULKHEAD APPLICATION I'M PUTTING IN FOR Y'ALL, I GUESS TO REVIEW.
WILL THIS NEW BUILDING REDUCE MY WAITING TIME OR REALLY HAVE NO EFFECT ANY FEELING? IT WILL, IT WILL REDUCE THE NUMBER OF STOPS THAT YOU'VE GOT TO, THAT YOU'VE GOTTA TAKE.
BUT IN TERMS OF THE PROCESSING TIME, THE PROCESSING TIME SHOULD REMAIN THE SAME.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS TO RE READDRESS? SO WHAT IS THE TARGET OCCUPATION DATE? WELL, WE'RE HOPING TO GET STARTED, UH, AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.
AND I WOULD SAY FOUR
UH, BUT WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR READY AND HE'S AFTER WE START.
SO WE'RE HOPING TO GET STARTED FIRST OF THE YEAR.
AND JUST CURIOUS, 'CAUSE LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, I MEAN, YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK WITHOUT SPENDING A LOT OF THE BUDGET AND AMOUNT.
WHAT'S, I MEAN, ARE WE, WE ABOVE, WE EXPECTING TO SAVE SOME MONEY OR NO.
THINK WE'RE, OR WE'RE WAITING FOR THE HVAC SYSTEM TO, TO COST US A LOT OF MONEY.
WE ARE, WE ARE SEEING SOME SAVINGS BECAUSE WE'RE USING A JOB CONTRACT, WHICH IS BASED OFF RS MEANS.
SO I MEAN, ALL THE COSTS ARE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY ARE AND THERE'S NO WIGGLE ORDER IN BETWEEN THAT.
SO WE, WE KIND OF, KIND OF DOING THIS LIKE A DESIGN BILL.
THE CONTRACTORS ALREADY ENGAGED IN PRICING STUFF AND COORDINATING WITH THE ARCHITECTS.
UH, IT'S KIND OF A FAST PACED PROJECT RIGHT NOW, IN MY OPINION COMPARED TO OUR OTHER DESIGN BID BUILD PROCESS.
YOUR BEST RESPONSE IS YOU'LL BE WITHIN BUDGET.
WE'RE COMING IN UNDER THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.
WE DO HAVE TWO STILL ON THE, UH, STILL ON THE AGENDA.
DO WE HAVE ANYTHING FOR THAT? OKAY, NO PROBLEM.
UH, AND THEN, AND WE ALSO HAVE THE MACK BOARDS AND WE'RE GONNA TABLE THAT FOR, OR YOU YEAH, WE TABLE JUST AT THE LORD POSITION.
YEAH, IF ANYBODY HAVE ANY YES SUGGESTIONS.
PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE GOT A HALF AN HOUR FOR THAT.
SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO 12, WHICH IS NEW BUSINESS.
RECEIVE THE COUNTY FOURTH QUARTER SUMMARY FINANCIAL REPORT.
GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN MEMBER.
HOW ARE YOU? LESLIE LEWIS, FINANCE DIRECTOR TONIGHT.
I'M GONNA BRIEFLY, UM, PRESENT THE SUMMARY FINANCIAL REPORT FOR FISCAL YEAR OF 2025 FOURTH QUARTER UNAUDITED.
THE REPORT IS A, THIS IS THE TABLE OF CONTENTS.
IT'S A VERY DETAILED REPORT AND I THINK YOU HAVE THE FULL PACKAGE IN YOUR BOARD AND FOR, FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, YOU CAN FIND THIS FULL REPORT ON THE BOARD DOCS.
THE, UM, WHAT I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT IS THE SUMMARY OF THE MAJOR REVENUE SECTION.
UM, THE FIRST, MY, MY LIGHT'S WORKING, BUT THE FIRST COLUMN, THE REVENUE THAT IS THE MAJOR REVENUES OF THE COUNTY.
THAT MAKES UP 84% OF THE TOTAL COUNTY'S REVENUE.
AND IF YOU LOOK IN THE FOURTH QUARTER, THE FIRST COLUMN, FY 2025, WE ARE AHEAD AT THE SAME TIME.
LAST YEAR, FY 24, WE WERE, THIS YEAR WE'RE AT 26,570,000.
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LAST YEAR WE WERE AT 25,456,000.WE ARE HIT UP FISCAL YEAR 2024 LAST YEAR, WHICH WAS 64 MILLION.
SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO QUARTERS IS 2.6% FAVORABLE.
OUR PROJECTED GROWTH WAS 2.7%.
SO WE'RE CLOSE, WE ALMOST HIT THE TARGET.
AND THIS IS JUST A RECAP TO AGAIN WHAT I JUST SAID.
THE FISCAL YEAR TO DATE, THE MAJOR REVENUES HAVE INCREASED BY 2.6% COMPARED TO THE SAME PERIOD.
LAST YEAR, THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 REVENUE FORECAST, WE WERE ANTICIPATING A 2.7% RISE IN MAJOR REVENUES.
AND I DID WANNA POINT OUT FOR THE FIRST TIME, INCLUDED IN MAJOR REVENUES IS INVESTMENT EARNINGS.
UM, WE BUDGETED THINKING WE WOULD GET 1,000,080 $1,975 WHILE YEAR TO DATE WE REACHED 3 MILLION.
UH, WITH THAT, UH, MS. LEWIS, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE YOU AND ALSO OUR TREASURER JAMES LAWSON, THAT IF YOU GO BACK 12 YEARS OH YEAH.
SO I WANT TO GO ON RECORD THANKING YOU AND THANKING OUR TREASURER FOR THOSE INVESTMENTS, JAMES CREDIT.
NOW, AND THIS AGAIN IS JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT THE FULL REPORT IS AVAILABLE ON THE BOARD DOCS OR THE COUNTY WEBSITE.
SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, MS. LEWIS? SO IF NOT, GO AHEAD.
UH, MS. LEWIS, THAT, THAT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD REPORT AND, AND, UH, VERY GOOD NUMBERS ON THE INVESTMENT.
SO COMPLIMENTS TO THE TREASURER AS WELL.
UM, WOULD, YOU KNOW, OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, AND SOMETHING YOU AND I DISCUSSED BEFORE, BUT HOW MUCH OF THAT REVENUE IS GENERATED BY THE BOAT RAMP? UM, FEE? I'M NOT BEING ABLE TO GIVE YOU THE NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I, I WILL NOT SAY IT'S A LARGE, SHE PROBABLY HAS A D REALLY D TO FIND OUT SHE ACTUALLY HAS IT.
AND IF I HAD MY COMPUTER, I WOULD PULL IT OUT.
WOULD, BUT IT'S NOT A LARGE NUMBER.
DOES, IN YOUR OPINION, DOES THAT FEE COVER THE OPERATING COST TO ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM? I THINK THE PROGRAMS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL WANT ME TO GET A DETAIL.
I THINK IT'S IN PLACE FOR MORE, FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS, BUT FINANCIALLY, I THINK IT COVERS THE CALL.
I KNOW I SENT YOU THE REPORT, BUT I THINK IT DOES COVER THE COST.
BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S VERY LITTLE COST.
IT'S JUST THE STICKERS THAT'S INVOLVED.
AND THAT WAS NOT A BIG EXPENSE AT ALL.
AND WE'RE NOT, AND WE'RE NOT HIRING ADDITIONAL STAFF.
IT COVERS THE PUBLIC PUBLIC RELATIONS.
THAT'S, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT, UH, CONCERN IN OUR TREASURER, JAMES WILLISTON, UH, ON YOUR PAGE, ON YOUR REPORT WHERE YOU HAVE REAL ESTATE TAXES AND CURRENT AND DELINQUENT AND TO THE BOTTOM OF THAT, YOU HAVE THE ANNUAL FISCAL YEAR TARGET IS HIGHER THAN LAST YEAR.
AT THE END OF THE FOURTH QUARTER, 103% OF OUR ANNUAL BUDGET HAS BEEN COLLECTED.
AND I WANNA THANK, UH, JAMES, UH, OUR TREASURER, UH, FOR THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE MS. LEWIS? I HAVE A QUESTION.
YOU I BET HE DON'T, YOU'RE GOOD.
I'M LOOKING AT THE REPORT AND IT APPEARS THAT THE TIPPING FEES ARE DOWN 20% FOR THE LANDFILL AND THE, THE BUILDING PERMIT ARE DOWN 15%.
I UNDERSTAND THE BUILDING PERMITS.
DO WE HAVE ANY FEELING WHY THERE'S SUCH A DROP OFF OR THERE JUST IS WE DIDN'T RAISE THE TIPPING FEES.
SO IT HAS TO BE, THE USAGE IS, I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE JUST NOT THROWING AWAY AS MUCH TRASH.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF AS CONSTRUCTION THAT THAT'S A LOT OF YOUR TRASH.
IS THAT HOT? EVEN IF THE IT WHAT? HIGH 20% DROP? NO, NO, NO.
I'M SAYING LIKE IF PEOPLE DOING DEMOLITIONS, I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S YOUR BIG ITEMS. I I'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO SAY TRASH.
LOT OF CONSTRUCTION TRASH AT OUR, AT OUR LOCAL LITTLE, UH, CONVENIENCE.
CONVENIENCE CENTERS THAT I HAVE IN THE PAST.
MAYBE PEOPLE ARE JUST THAT'S FREE AVOIDING IT.
BUT THAT, BUT IT'S STILL, IT SHOULD BE REGULATED TOO AS WELL.
BUT I'M JUST GOING TAKE A, A, A GUESS HERE AND SAY THAT IT'S THE GREAT WORK OF THE SANITATION AND WASTE COMMITTEES RECYCLING PROGRAM.
SO OUR RECYCLING MUST BE THAT'S A GREAT, THAT'S A GREAT ANSWER.
IT WOULD START WITH, JEFF AND I HAPPEN TO SERVE ON THAT COMMITTEE, SO I AGREE WITH, BECAUSE THEY GET PAID FOR THEIR, IT
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COMES IN.ANYTHING ELSE, MS. LEWIS? ALRIGHT.
OH, I THINK HE WANTS TO RESPOND.
YOU WANNA RESPOND ON THAT? YEAH, IF I, IF I CAN GO BACK.
MIKE MASON, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, SORRY.
UM, SUPERVISOR DE GEORGE'S, WE CAN, WE, WE HAVE DATA ON WHAT TYPE OF WASTE IS COMING ACROSS THE SCALE.
WE CAN DRILL INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT AND KIND OF IDENTIFY COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL WASTE A LITTLE BIT, WHETHER IT'S COMMERCIAL HAULERS AND IT SEEMS MATERIAL TO ME, THAT'S ALL.
YEAH, AND IT'S, IT, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE TIPPING FEE REVENUE IS A SOLE SOURCE FOR POWERING OUR ENTERPRISE FUND, UM, ON THE REVENUE SIDE.
SO WE, WE NEED THAT REVENUE AS, AS FAR AS CASH BASIS ACTUALLY, TO EXCEED OUR CURRENT OUTFLOWS OF CASH.
BECAUSE WE HAVE TO, AND YOU ALL KNOW THIS, EVERY SO MANY YEARS, YOU'VE GOTTA CLOSE THE LANDFILL SALE AND GOTTA CONSTRUCT ONE VERY EXPENSIVE PROCESS MILLION.
SO, UM, AND, AND GOING BACK TO BUILDING PERMITS IS WE, WE, WE SOMETIMES HAVE TO DIG INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT AS WELL BECAUSE, UM, LARGE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS CAN, UM, PROVIDE TIMING DIFFERENCES ON THAT REVENUE STREAM.
BUT WE'VE HAD CASES LIKE WHEN BIG LARGE FACILITIES LIKE THE WALMART YEARS AGO, YOU GET A, A BUILDING PERMIT REVENUE FROM THAT.
IT CAN SPIKE YOUR REVENUE IN ONE YEAR AND THEN IT JUST FALLS OFF.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION IS DOWN, IT'S JUST YOU'VE HAD SOME LARGE IMPACTS, LARGE PROJECTS THAT IMPACTED THAT REVENUE STREAM.
WELL, MR. MASON, YOU CAN STAY RIGHT THERE IF YOU WOULD.
COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT.
CHAIRMAN PHILLIPS, UH, JUST CHARACTERIZING MOST OF OF MY COMMENTS.
THEY'RE ALL JUST INFORMATIONAL ITEMS. MM-HMM
UM, THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, ON OCTOBER 17TH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A COUNTY EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION EVENT, UM, THAT IS SCHEDULED FOR THE SAWMILL PARK, UH, AT, UH, 11:00 AM TO 2:00 AM AND AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU FOLKS COULD MAYBE SHOW UP, UH, THERE'LL BE SOME FOOD AND, AND OTHER ACTIVITIES, BUT, UH, YOU GET TO SEE SOME OF THE NEW PARK MANATEES I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT IN A SECOND AS WELL.
SO BRING PICKLEBALL RACKETS TOO.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?
SO MARK, MARK, MARK THAT ON YOUR CALENDARS, AGAIN, FROM, UM, FROM TWO, FROM 11 TO TWO ON OCTOBER SEVEN, UH, 17TH AT, AT THE PARK.
UM, THE, THE NEXT TWO ITEMS ARE, ARE REALLY PROCUREMENT RELATED, BUT THEY'RE JUST WORTHY, UM, SORT OF MILESTONES THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED.
UH, NUMBER ONE, THE COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE RFP HAS BEEN RELEASED.
UM, YOU ALL KNOW WHAT A BIG DEAL A COMP PLAN IS.
UM, AND WE'RE, WE NEED ASSISTANCE ON THAT.
AND THIS IS BUDGETED, BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO HELP, UH, WITH THAT UPDATE, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY THE CODE.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE EMPHASIZED IN THE RFP IS, IS WE NEED THAT, WE NEED THAT CONSULTANT TO HELP BRING OUT THE PUBLIC AND GET THEIR INPUT.
SO YOU NEED A LOT OF INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COMP PLAN, WHICH CONTROLS A LOT OF THINGS.
UM, SO AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S ON THE STREETS.
AND THE CLOSE DATE FOR THE RFP IS 10 10.
MOVING ON, THERE'S ALSO AN INVITATION FOR BED.
UM, WE DID NOT ISSUE THIS, THIS IS, UH, UNDER VIRGINIA SPACE 'CAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES CONSTRUCTING THE HANGAR.
BUT THE INVITATION, INVITATION FOR BEDS FOR CONSTRUCTION, THE MALFA HANGER IS, IS, HAS BEEN RELEASED.
THE CLOSING DATE ON THAT IS 10 14 2025.
AND, UM, WITH, WITH THAT AGENDA ITEM, I ALSO DID INCLUDE THE, UH, THE, THE DRAWINGS, THE ENGINEERING DRAWINGS, SO YOU COULD SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND HOW IT'S GONNA BE PAIRED UP NEXT TO THE TERMINAL BUILDING THERE IN, IN MALFA.
UH, ANOTHER, UH, UH, PARK AMENITY COMING ONLINE.
THE DOG PARK, UH, THAT THE BOARD FUNDED IS, UM, SCHEDULED TO OPEN THIS WEEK, OR I'M SORRY, THIS MONTH.
UH, COUNTY, UH, PARKS AND REC STAFF IS PLANNING ON, ON HOLDING A GRAND OPENING, NOT ONLY FOR THE DOG PARK, BUT ALSO THE RESURFACE PICKLE BALL THAT YOU JUST REMARKED ABOUT AND, AND THE RESURFACE PAVILION AS WELL.
UH, SO THERE WILL BE A GRAND OPENING ADVERTISED.
SO LOOK FOR THAT IN THE EAST STREET SHORE POST, UH, SOON.
UH, MOVING ON, IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS ON THOSE ITEMS, 13 FIVE.
AND THIS IS JUST SORT OF A RELAY ITEM, UM, AND IT, IT COULD JUST AS EASILY BE A MEMBER OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY PROVIDING THIS UPDATE.
BUT, UH, LAST YEAR, THE EDA COMMISSIONED, UM, A MARKET PLANNING REPORT, AND I PROVIDED THE ENTIRE REPORT AND YOUR PACKAGE FOR YOUR REVIEW.
ALL TASKS ASSOCIATED WITH A REPORT WERE FUNDED BY A FEDERAL GRANT THAT THE EDA WAS ABLE TO SECURE WITH THIS, WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF THE A-M-P-D-C,
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THE, THE REPORT ITSELF IS DIVIDED INTO THREE SECTIONS.AND I SORT OF HIGHLIGHTED FOR THE BOARD THE, UM, THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, UH, FOR EACH SECTION.
BUT THERE'S A MARKET STUDY REPORT AND THAT, THAT REPORT COMES WITH NEAR MIDTERM AND LONG TERM CONSIDERATIONS.
THERE'S A SITE REPORT, UM, THAT BASICALLY COMES WITH THE SAME THING AND A MARKET PLAN THAT'S VERY EXTENSIVE.
UM, AND THIS IS ALL GEARED TOWARDS MARKETING, THE, THE PARK, UM, AND TAKING ADDITIONAL STEPS TO, TO HELP THE EDA FULFILL ITS MISSION OF, OF, OF MANAGING THAT PARK AND PUTTING IT INTO OPTIMAL USE.
UH, THE ONE THING TO, TO TAKE AWAY FROM THIS IS IT'S EXTREMELY LONG REPORT WITH AN EXTREMELY, UH, LONG LIST OF ACTION ITEMS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, THAT I'M SURE THE EDA IS GOING TO, TO PERHAPS REQUEST FROM YOU IN THE NEAR TERM IS ADDITIONAL STAFFING.
UH, WHETHER IT'S SOME TYPE OF SHARED COST OR NOT, NOT SURE WHAT THAT'S GONNA BE, BUT, UM, THAT'LL LIKELY COME UP DURING BUDGET TIME BECAUSE THIS IS AN, THIS IS AN IMPOSSIBLE LIST TO HAVE TO TACKLE WITHOUT, UM, WITHOUT SOME DEDICATED STAFF.
AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WE RELY ON, UH, WE RELY ON A-A-A-D-A BOARD THAT'S VOLUNTEER RIGHT NOW.
SO IT'S, IT'S JUST NOT QUITE POSSIBLE WITHOUT SOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES IN THERE.
SO AGAIN, IT'S A REPORT, READ IT AT YOUR LEISURE.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
AND THEY, AND, AND SUPERVISOR PARKS IS A LIAISON TO THE EDA.
HE WAS THERE AND HE HEARD THE CONSULTANTS OVER AND OVER AGAIN EMPHASIZE THE NEED FOR SOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES THAT THIS PLAN'S GONNA BE EXECUTED.
IT'S JUST A POINT OF, UH, THAT I WANTED TO MAKE THIS EVENING.
SO, MR. MASON, MR. MASON, BEFORE THIS MOVES ANY FARTHER AS FAR AS HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE EDA WOULD COME AND ASK, UH, WHEN STAFF HAS AN OPPORTUNITY, COULD, COULD YOU PUT SOME NUMBERS TO THIS RECOMMENDATION? YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDATION IS ONE THING, RIGHT? PAYING FOR IT AS ANOTHER, RIGHT.
SO COULD YOU PUT SOME NUMBERS TOGETHER? SURE.
AND THAT, UH, CONCLUDES MY REPORT FOR THIS EVENING.
ANYTHING ELSE FROM MR. MASON? IF NOT, WE ARE, WE ARE ALREADY AT, UH, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS COMBAT, PERIOD.
UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, WE WOULD LIKE, THIS IS FROM THE NAVIGABLE WATERWAYS AND ALSO FROM, UH, TOWN OF W CREEK.
WE'D LIKE TO SEND A LETTER REITERATING TO THE COAST GUARD, BUT ALSO TO OUR FEDERAL AND OUR STATE, UM, REPRESENTATIVES.
IF I'M SAYING SOMETHING WRONG, TO KEEP REINFORCING THE NEED AND THE WANT FOR CO, UH, WATCH CREEK COAST GUARD STATIONS TO STAY OPEN.
UM, RIGG, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY PICKED UP ON SOMETHING, BUT THEY SHOT A LETTER TO US, BILLY JOE AND I, AND, UH, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT STAYS OPEN.
THE COAST GUARD ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTES OR COMES TO THE NAVIGABLE WATERWAYS MEETINGS AND WE'RE VERY, WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE THAT THEY COME.
UM, AND SO THEY JUST, THEY WERE TELLING US SOME THINGS AND WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, BECAUSE PART OF THE REASON THE NAVIGABLE WATERWAYS IS INVOLVED IN THIS, IF THAT STATION GOES AWAY, THEN THE FEDERAL MONEY TO KEEP W CREEK, UH, THE W CREEK INLET AND THE, AND THE UM, CHANNEL, CHANNEL OPEN GOES AWAY.
SO WE'VE GOT TO, FOR THE BENEFIT OF W CREEK, THE COMMERCIAL WATER MOON, THE, YOU KNOW, THE SPORTSMEN, EVERYBODY, WE'D LIKE TO SEND A LETTER AND JUST, WE'VE GOTTA STAY ON TOP OF IT AND JUST SEND THAT.
BUT JEFF, HAVE I MISSED ANYTHING? ABSOLUTELY.
YEAH, IT IS, IT IS A, SO MUCH OF AN AREA, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SHANK, TAKE COAST GUARD AND THEN THEY WANT, SAY CAPE CHARLES.
WELL, CAPE CHARLES HAS NO OFFSHORE CAPABILITIES.
THE BOAT HAS TO COME FROM VIRGINIA BEACH AND THAT IS, UH, ONE OF THOSE LITTLE 82 FOOT PATROL BOATS.
IT TAKES SIX HOURS TO GET 'EM UNDERWAY AND ALL THAT.
IT LEAVES OUR WHOLE SEASIDE OPEN.
SO, AND, AND THE ONLY WAY TO GET THE ADMIRALS TO LOOK AT YOU IS IF IT COMES FROM ABOVE THEM.
SO WE'D LIKE, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DO THAT AND TO OUR CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION.
AND ALSO, BUT BILLY JOE AND I WERE TALKING, WE WANNA SEND IT TO THE GOVERNOR AND THE STATE TO LET THEM KNOW SURE.
WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO THE EASTERN SHORE AND TO OUR SEASIDE TO KEEP SOMETHING THERE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE, NOT TO RELY ON, AS YOU SAID, VIRGINIA BEACH, BILLY JOE.
AND IT'S GOTTA BE SOMETHING RIGHT THERE.
BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF THE TOWN TOO, WE WANT TO KEEP IT OPEN FOR NAVIGATION.
AND YOU ALL VILLAGE JOE, IF WE LOSE THAT STATION, THE ONLY THING THAT KEEPING
THAT'S THE ONLY THING KEEPING IT OPEN IS THAT COAST GUARD STATION THERE.
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SO WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO PROTECT ALL OF THE CITIZENS AND ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO USE THAT ON THE SEASIDE.ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND.
VICE CHAIR? NO, NOT AT THE TIME.
I GOT SOMETHING, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PUT IT TOGETHER HERE.
BUT, UH, ONE OF MY, UH, CONSTITUENTS OR WHATEVER, AND, UH, HAS A, A SMALL AQUACULTURE BUSINESS UNDER FIVE ACRES AND HE LET ME KNOW, AND OF COURSE HE LET TINA KNOW TOO, BACK IN THE SPRING WHEN THIS COMING BACK, THAT, UH, THE STATE HAS OFFERED, UM, A TAX, A TAX RELIEF, A PERCENTAGE OF HIS TAX RELIEF ON THIS.
UM, AND HE'S, YOU KNOW, KIND OF AROUND THE CAGES, THE COUNTY GOING TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAS TO APPROVE IT.
AND ALL I WOULD LIKE TO DO TONIGHT IS TO HAVE STAFF REVIEW THIS, AND WHEN THE BUDGET COMES OUT, SAY YAY OR NAY WITH IT.
IT MAY BE MORE THAN WHAT WE CAN DO.
ACCORDING TO HIM, HE, HE IS THE ONLY ONE IN ACK COUNTY, SMALL ENOUGH THAT WILL QUALIFY FOR THIS BUDGET OR THIS, UH, TAX RELIEF.
THERE MAY BE SOME IN NORTHAMPTON COUNTY, IT MAY BE ONE SIDE HERE.
UH, BUT, UH, IF WE CAN JUST GET A, THE BOARD TO ALLOW STAFF TO LOOK AT US, UM, IN, UH, IT A CODE SECTION THAT COME FROM THE STATE ON THIS.
DO YOU WANT A MOTION OR JUST A CONSENSUS? I THE MOTION.
DO WE NEED A MOTION? I'LL SECOND IT.
I, I HAVE ONE ISSUE AND, UH, AND IT CONCERNS, UH, A LETTER ALSO TO BE SENT TO OUR CONGRESSIONAL, UH, ALLEGATION, THE NORTHEASTERN TIGER BEETLE, UH, WHICH IS ON THE ENDANGERED SPECIES LIST.
IT FIRST RAISED HIS HEAD EARLY SUMMER AT AT WARE POINT.
WARE POINT IS A BEACH JUST OUTSIDE OF C**K THAT HAS BEEN USED FOR DECADES AND DECADES AND DECADES.
AND, UH, UH, BECAUSE OF THE, OF THE WORK FROM OUR, UH, DELICATE, UH, ROB LOCK HIM, IT IS STILL BEING USED BECAUSE, UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SOME STATE OFFICIALS WENT TO THAT BEACH ON A SUNDAY WHILE FAMILIES WERE THERE ENJOYING IT.
AND, UH, THEY WERE NOT RECEIVED.
UH, THE ONE, THE, THE FAMILIES THAT WERE THERE, UH, WERE TOLD THAT THEY CAN DO THIS.
THEY CAN'T STICK A, A, UM, A, UH, AN UMBRELLA IN THE SAND.
THE KID, YOU KNOW, KIDS ARE THERE BECAUSE OF THIS NORTHEASTERN TIGER BEETLE THAT'S ON THAT BEACH.
UH, OUR DELEGATE, THE DELEGATE BLOCKS GOT TOGETHER WITH THE, UM, DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR AND THEY WORKED OUT A COMPROMISE.
SO EVERYTHING IS FINE THERE NOW, BUT IT'S RAISED ITS HEAD AGAIN AND IT'S RAISED ITS HEAD NOW TO THE, TO THE, TO THE POINT WHERE A CH A, UH, AN INLET A CHANNEL DOWN AT, UH, IN NORTH HEMPTON COUNTY, I THINK IT'S NAS, I BELIEVE, BUT DOWN IN NORTH HEMPTON COUNTY, THEY'RE GETTING READY TO DREDGE IT AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO PUT THE SPILL.
AND ONE POSSIBLE SITE WAS TANGIER BEACH.
I NEVER KNEW THERE WERE A TIGER BEETLE ON, ON THE, ON THE BEACH ON TANGER THAT ARE SAYING THAT THERE'S, THERE'S TIGER BEETLES ON THAT BEACH, AND THAT'S ON THE ENDANGERED SPECIES LIST.
AND RIGHT NOW THEY CAN'T USE THAT FOR A SPILL.
UH, THE EAST SHO NAL WATERWAYS COMMITTEE HAS ALREADY SENT A LETTER TO OUR CONGRESSWOMAN, UH, JEN KAGANS, ASKING HER TO, TO DEVELOP, I'LL CALL IT A, A PLAN TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THIS.
AND IN THE END, POSSIBLY TAKING THIS BEETLE OFF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES LIST SO WE CAN, SO WE CAN DO SOME WORK AROUND HERE.
SO, UH, MY REQUEST IS, UH, FOR THE BOARD TO HAVE STAFF, UH, PUT TOGETHER A LETTER SIMILAR TO WHAT THE WATERWAYS COMMITTEE, UH, PUT TOGETHER AND SENT AND SEND THAT TO OUR, UH, TO OUR MEMBERS, UH, OF OUR, UH, CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION.
UH, NO COMMENTS FROM THE, FROM THE CHAIRMAN, THIS TIME SUPERVISOR.
WELL, THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS NOT REALLY A COMMENT.
I SPENT THE MORNING IN ON COST AT THE COORDINATION COMMITTEE AND RESPONSE BE IMPROVED AGAINST SEXUAL AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
IT'S RUN BY THE EASTERN SHORE COALITION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OFFICE, WHICH YOU ALL MAY KNOW ABOUT, BUT IT WAS NEWS TO ME.
UH, VERY INTERESTING GROUP DOING GREAT WORK.
ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO COORDINATE BETTER THAN THEY ARE.
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DO WE DO ANYTHING MONETARILY TO HELP THEM OUT OR IS THAT NOT SOMETHING WE COULD THEY ALREADY DO.THE, I DON'T MEMORIZE THE, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT ANYWAY.
ANYWAY, THEY WERE VERY GOOD GROUP.
I WAS VERY IMPRESSED AND I, I LEARNED A LOT.
UH, A COUPLE THINGS REAL QUICK.
FIRST OF ALL, TYING INTO THE, TO THE NAVIGATION AND WATERWAYS COMMITTEE AS WELL, UM, I, I WOULD TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THAT WE, WE ALSO NEED TO, TO CONSIDER OUR WATERWAYS ON THE BAY SIDE.
UH, THE, THE LACK OF ANY ACTIVE DREDGING PROGRAM FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS, IS, OR ANYONE IS RESULTING IN, UM, SO MANY OF OUR, SO MUCH OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT SMART SUPPORTS OUR WATER, OUR SEAFOOD INDUSTRY, UM, IS BEING UNUSABLE UNNAVIGABLE.
AND, UH, I, I WANT TO COME TO THE COMMITTEE AND SEE IF WE COULD COME UP WITH SOME OTHER OPTION, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE AN EXPECTATION OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT REALLY COMING TO OUR, TO OUR RESCUE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.
AND I MEAN, IN MY DISTRICT, UH, I I DON'T THINK, I MEAN, UH, THEY'RE ALL AT RISK.
AND, UH, SING INTO YOUR COMMENT, I WAS AT THE, UH, ROCKET LAB, LC THREE, UH, DEDICATION AND HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT WITH THE COMMAND COAST GUARD COMMANDER FOR EAST DISTRICT ADMIRAL J VAUGHN, AND A GREAT GUY, VERY SUPPORTIVE LOCALLY, AND WHO SHARED MY FRUSTRATION.
I, I WISH I'D HAVE PICKED ON THE RIGG, UH, STATION, AND I, I'VE NEGLECTED TO DO THAT, BUT IN GENERAL, AND IT SAID THEY WILL SUPPORT NAVIGATION AIDS AND SUPPORT OBSTRUCTIONS, BUT IF THE WATER BECOMES UN NAVIGABLE, THAT'S WHERE THEIR SUPPORT IS FALLING OFF AND THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO DO IT.
BUT I'LL SAY THAT I THINK WE HAVE A FRIEND WITH THE ADMIRAL'S OFFICE, UM, AND WOULD BE GLAD TO FOLLOW UP.
I HAVE HIS CARD AND, AND THE OTHER, BUT, BUT I THINK THIS IS A PROBLEM ACROSS THE SHORE, NOT JUST ON THE SEASIDE.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, UM, UH, AND OF COURSE WITH THE SPEAKING OF ROCKET LAB AND THEIR INTENDED USE POTENTIALLY OF SHAKE AIG INLET, AT LEAST ON THE SHAKET INLET, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET SOME SUPPORT.
BUT IT STILL MAKES ME WONDER ABOUT THE OTHER INLETS IN THE AREA.
ON THAT NOTE, UM, THE LC THREE DEDICATION WAS A MONUMENTAL EVENT.
UNFORTUNATELY, IN MY OPINION, THE, THE PAPER PROBABLY DIDN'T DO THE COMMUNITY, UM, JUSTICE BY NOT GIVING AS MUCH COVERAGE AS IT DESERVED.
UH, WE HAD THE GOVERNOR HERE FOR TWO DEDICATIONS THAT DAY.
UH, I WAS AMAZED THERE, THERE WERE PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD, SENIOR, VERY SENIOR PEOPLE FROM WASHINGTON WERE POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS TO NASA AND ROCKET LAB.
AND I THINK, UH, WE, ONE SHOULD BE THANKFUL THIS IS HAPPENING.
THE COUNTY OFFICES HAVE DONE A HUGE AMOUNT OF SUPPORT, UH, FOR VIRGINIA SPACE AND, AND THAT ENDEAVOR AT ROCKET LAB.
BUT THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT OF FUTURE ACTIVITY COMING.
I MEAN, PETER BECK STOOD THERE, WHO'S THE CEO OF ROCKET LAB AND SAID, WE'RE GONNA LAUNCH FROM MARS FROM HERE TO GO TO MARS.
UM, I, I, SO, UM, I THINK WE'VE GOTTA CONTINUE TO WORK AS WE HAVE TO TO SUPPORT THESE, THIS DEVELOPMENT AND SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA.
SUPERVISOR WASHINGTON, NO COMMENT.
EVERYTHING GOOD? ALRIGHT, MOVING RIGHT ON THEN.
WE STILL HAVE A FEW MINUTES BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING STARTS.
SO, UH, 15 ONE, CONSIDER APPROVING RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE 25 26 BUDGET.
SECOND, HAVE A MOTION PROPERLY SECONDED TO, UH, APPROVE THE RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE, UH, 25 26, UH, BUDGET.
MR. MASON, CAN WE PAY OUR BILLS? YES, I CERTIFY.
ALRIGHT, I'M HAVE A MOTION AND PROPERLY SECOND TO, UH, CONSIDER PAYABLES.
OKAY, WE WILL TAKE A, UH, FIVE, SIX MINUTE BREAK.
UM, AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK AND WE'LL START THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SO IF THE FIRST ONE, OF COURSE, WILL, THE FIRST ONE WILL BE MS. JAM, WILL YOU GIVE US OUR PUBLIC HEARING RULES? YES, SIR.
THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
THE RULES FOR PUBLIC HEARING ARE AS FOLLOWS.
ALL PERSONS WISHING TO SPEAK SHALL SIGN THE REGISTER.
TWO PERSONS ADDRESSING THE BOARD SHOULD STAND BEHIND THE LECTERN.
THREE PERSONS ADDRESSING THE BOARD SHALL BE LIMITED TO FOUR MINUTES.
PERSONS ADDRESSING THE BOARD SHALL NOT USE AN INAPPROPRIATE LANGUAGE OR VERBALLY ATTACK ANY BOARD MEMBER OR ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.
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FIVE SIGNS AND PLACARDS ARE NOT ALLOWED INSIDE THE MEETING.ANY PERSON WHOSE BEHAVIOR IS DISRUPTIVE SHALL BE ASKED TO LEAVE THE MEETING ROOM.
SEVEN PERSONS MAY NOT QUESTION INDIVIDUAL SUPERVISORS OR STAFF MEMBERS WITHOUT UNANIMOUS CONSENT OF THE BOARD.
A PERSONS ADDRESSING THE BOARD SHALL LIMIT THEIR COMMENTS TO THE ISSUE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
A SPEAKER MAY RESERVE THEIR TIME, BUT THEY SHALL NOT DELEGATE THEIR TIME TO ANOTHER SPEAKER.
AND THEN 10 IS ATTORNEYS REPRESENTING CLIENTS WILL BE LIMITED TO 10 MINUTES.
AND IF ANY ATTORNEY SPEAKS UNDER THIS PROVISION, A REPRESENTATIVE HOLDING AN OPPOSING VIEW SHALL BE PROVIDED 10 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR VIEW.
THE CHAIR HAS THE RIGHT AND DUTY TO MAINTAIN PROPER ORDER IN ACCORDANCE WITH THESE RULES.
SO OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE, UH, REZ 0 0 0 0 5 7 DASH 2 0 2 5, DALE RIVER BAR.
UM, PROFFER, UH, UH, SETTLE, UH, SETTLEMENT STATEMENT A AMENDMENT.
SO MR. PADICK, THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, LEE PAM, THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UM, YOU JUST READ OFF THE CASE NUMBER AND THE, UH, AND, AND THE CASE NAME.
AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS IS, IS A, UH, IT'S A PROFFER AMENDMENT THAT SUBMITTED, UM, UH, PURSUANT TO A, UH, TO A PREVIOUSLY REZONED, UH, OR TO A PREVIOUS REZONING CASE.
I'LL JUST GO DOWN THE, UH, THE, THE VITAL STATS FOR THIS CASE.
JUST REALLY QUICKLY, THE APPLICANT IS DALE RBA, WHO IS REPRESENTED BY ATTORNEY ANITA JOHNSON.
THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE, UH, RAYMOND DALE AND ANNA RBA.
UH, THOSE ARE THE TAX PARCEL NUMBERS AND THE ADDRESS OF THE SITE IS 15,000 5 89 COUNTY LINE ROAD IN BELLHAVEN.
UH, THIS IS IN SUPERVISOR, UM, VICE CHAIR'S, MAJOR VICE CHAIR MAJORS, UH, DISTRICT, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER IS BARON ROGERS.
THE SITE ACREAGE IS 25.44 ACRES, AND THAT'S THE TOTAL FOR BOTH PARCELS.
THE ZONING IS CURRENTLY RESIDENTIAL WITH PROFFERS AND THAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPLIED FOR BY, UM, MS. KIRKWOOD AND THE UM, UH, AND HER L-L-C-E-J-B HOLDINGS THAT REZONING DATE BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WAS JUNE 21ST, 2006.
THE FUTURE LAND USE RECOMMENDATION IS AGRICULTURAL.
AND THEIR REQUEST AGAIN IS TO AMEND PROFFER NUMBER ONE TO ALLOW ACCESS TO COUNTY LINE ROAD AND THEY WANNA STRIKE PROFFER.
NUMBER THREE, ON LOT SIZES, THERE ARE NO APPLICABLE OVERLAYS.
THE ADJACENT ZONING, WE'VE GOT A MIX HERE, AGRICULTURAL, RESIDENTIAL, GENERAL BUSINESS AND INDUSTRIAL.
THE ADJACENT USES ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, VACANT, AGRICULTURAL, AND SOME INDUSTRIAL.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, HERE IS YOUR, UM, HERE'S YOUR, UH, UH, AERIAL VICINITY MAP.
AND THEN, UH, AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER TAX PARCEL RIGHT HERE.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, HERE IS THE ZONING MAP.
UM, YOU'VE GOT A MIX OF, UH, RE UH, A MIX OF ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS HERE.
THIS IS THE RESIDENTIAL WITH, UM, UH, RESIDENTIAL WITH, UH, UH, PROFFERS.
THIS IS THE WATERSIDE VILLAGE, UH, SUBDIVISION.
AND THEN HERE IN RED YOU'VE GOT SOME COMMERCIAL.
AND THEN THE BLUE IS INDUSTRIAL.
AND THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
SO JUST GENERALLY, UH, AGRICULTURAL, WHICH DOES ALLOW RESIDENTIAL USES.
AND THEN YOU HAVE, UM, VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT AREA HERE IN, UM, IN THE BELLHAVEN AREA.
THIS IS A PLAT, A SUBDIVISION PLAT THAT'S UNDER REVIEW BY THE STAFF.
AND IT DOES DEPICT THE TWO PARCELS.
THERE'S ONE PARCEL THAT KIND OF WRAPS AROUND LIKE THAT.
AND THEN THE MAIN PARCEL IS HERE AGAIN, THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 25.44 ACRES.
AND THIS IS A, UM, A SUBDIVISION PLAT, OR, UH, A SURVEY PLATFORM THIS YEAR.
SOME KEY FACTS, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE PARCELS WERE PART OF A 2006 REZONING CASE.
PROFFER, UH, PROFFER NUMBER ONE ACTUALLY RESTRICTS VEHICULAR ACCESS, AND THAT'S THE PRIMARY REASON FOR THE APPLICATION.
HE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS COUNTY LINE ROAD.
UM, UH, NUMBER THREE RESTRICTS THE USE OF THE PROPERTY IN THAT HE HAS TO SUBDIVIDE 30,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.
UH, HE HAS, UH, SUBMITTED SOME, UH, PROPOSED, UH, PROFFERS.
VIRGINIA STATE CODE INDICATES THAT THE VOLUNTARY PROFFERS, THEIR BINDING CONDITIONS THAT BECOME PART OF THE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY.
ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, THE, UH, UH, LOCALITIES CANNOT EXTRACT OR COMPEL PROFFERS.
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AMENDMENTS TO A REZONING CASE, HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS.SO EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT CHANGING THE ZONING DISTRICT, BUT THEY'RE CHANGING THE, THE CONDITIONS OR THE PROFFERS OF THE CASE, THEY STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT SAME, UH, THAT SAME REVIEW AND DECISION PROCESS.
AGAIN, PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE REQUIRED BEFORE BOTH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ALREADY RENDERED THEIR RECOMMENDATION ON THIS.
AND THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS TONIGHT.
RIGHT NOW, THESE ARE THE ORIGINAL PROFFERS.
UH, IF WE NEED TO ZOOM IN, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.
BUT THIS SLIDE HERE JUST TAKES THE THREE PROFFERS AND PUTS 'EM IN BIG TEXT FOR YOU.
AGAIN, THE TWO PROFFERS FOR AMENDMENT OF PROFFERS ONE AND THREE, THREE IS GOING TO BE STRICKEN AND ONE WILL WILL BE AMENDED TO ALLOW ACCESS ONTO, UH, STATE LINE ROAD, I'M SORRY, COUNTY LINE ROAD COUNTY
SO THIS IS WHAT THE, UH, PROPERTIES ARE ESSENTIALLY GONNA LOOK LIKE.
NUMBER ONE, THE PROPERTY MAY BE ACCESSED BY ONE ENTRANCE OR EXIT ONTO STATE ROUTE 6 0 1, SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY VDOT.
NUMBER TWO IS A BUFFER PROFFER, AND THAT'S GONNA REMAIN THE SAME, SO THERE'S NO CHANGE THERE.
AND AGAIN, NUMBER THREE WILL BE STRICKEN IN ITS ENTIRETY.
WHAT THIS PROFFER SAYS IS THE PARCEL SHALL BE SUBDIVIDED INTO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, LOTS OF NO LESS THAN 30,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND THE, UH, AND THE DEVELOPER DOES NOT WANT TO HAVE TO SUBDIVIDE THAT AT THIS TIME.
SO, UH, BECAUSE OF THE WORD SHALL IS IN THERE AND IT SPECIFIES MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, UH, THE, THE MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR A LOT.
ACTUALLY, IT'S NOT SQUARE FOOTAGE, IT'S GONNA BE FIVE ACRES.
SO IF HE WANTS TO SUBDIVIDE, THEN HE'S GOTTA DO FIVE ACRES, RECOMMENDED ACTIONS AND ADDITIONAL INFO.
THE STAFF, WE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
WE ANTICIPATE NO DELETERIOUS EFFECTS, NUMBER ONE, BY ALLOWING ONE HOUSE TO ACCESS COUNTY LINE ROAD AND TWO, UM, NO DELETERIOUS EFFECTS BY REMOVING THE PROFFER TO REQUIRE THE CURRENT OWNER TO SUBDIVIDE.
AGAIN, THAT WORD SHALL IS IN THERE.
NUMBER TWO, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS GRANTING THE PROFFER AMENDMENTS TO YOU, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
THEY HELD THEIR PUBLIC HEARING ON JULY 9TH, 2025.
IT WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE, AND ONE PUBLIC COMMENT WAS RECEIVED.
NO OBJECTION ON BEHALF OF THAT PERSON.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND I CAN FIELD ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
BUT ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OR COMMENT FROM MR. PANT ON, UH, ON 11 THREE? NOTHING.
I OPENED A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
UM, AT THIS TIME, NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP FOR 11 THREE, SO I CLOSED THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
UM, WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD, MR. CHAIR? YES, PLEASURE.
I, UH, WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, THAT WE APPROVE REVISED PROPER STATEMENTS THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED.
ALL OPPOSED? MOTION IS CARRIED.
SO NEXT ON OUR AGENDA, 11 FOUR PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED BOUNDARY LINE ADJUSTMENT REQUESTED BY THE TOWN OF C**K, MR. MASON.
THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN PHILLIPS, MEMBER OF THE BOARD.
MIKE MASON, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
WE'RE ON 11.4 PUBLIC HEARING OF THE PROPOSED BOUNDARY LINE ADJUSTMENT, AND YOU'RE GONNA HEAR, HEAR ME REFER TO THAT A LOT TONIGHT FOR THE ACRONYM BLA THAT'S BEEN REQUESTED BY THE TOWN OF AN C**K.
UM, BEFORE I JUMP INTO SOME AERIALS AND, AND SOME ADDITIONAL DETAILS, THIS LET'S JUST, I JUST WANTED TO PUT FORTH THE STATU STATUTORY AUTHORITY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.
THE CODE OF VIRGINIA 15.2 DASH 31 0 6 PROVIDES THAT WHENEVER TWO OR MORE LOCALITIES WISH TO RELOCATE OR CHANGE THE BOUNDARY LINE BETWEEN THEM, THEY CAN DO THAT BY AGREEMENT.
UM, ELIGIBILITY COMES DOWN TO ALL WE YOU NEED TO SATISFY THIS.
THIS CODE SECTION IS TO CONTIGUOUS LOCALITIES, WHICH WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE IN THIS CASE FOR, FOR A VOLUNTARY BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT.
SO HERE, HERE'S JUST SOME KEY FACTS.
84.45 ACRES REQUESTED BY TOWN COUNCIL TO BECOME PART OF THE TOWN OF ANN COX.
INCORPORATED LIMITS MOST OF THIS ACREAGE IS UNDEVELOPED PORTIONS IN THE PORTIONS OF IT ARE IN THE AG AND FORESTAL DISTRICT OF THE COUNTY.
THE CURRENT TOWN BOUNDARY LINE SPLITS SEVERAL PROPERTIES IN HALF, AND I HAVE AN AERIAL THAT KIND OF SHOWS THAT THAT ISSUE, THE REQUESTED BOUNDARY LINE ADJUSTMENT, WOULD ALLEVIATE THIS PROBLEM.
AS FAR AS THE ZONING, UM, OF THE, OF THE PARCEL, THE CURRENT COUNTY ZONING OF THE ENTIRE BLA IS RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND USE MAPS DESIGNATES IT AS VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT AREA SIGNALING ITS FIT FOR HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT PERHAPS IN THE FUTURE.
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COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES SUPPORT RESIDENTIAL GROWTH IN AND AROUND TOWN LIMITS, BUT TOWN ZONING WILL CONTROL THE AREA IF THE BLA IS APPROVED.SO THIS IS, UM, A SURVEY, UH, THAT WAS PERFORMED, UM, THAT CAME ALONG WITH THE TOWN'S REQUEST.
JUST KIND OF ORIENTATE YOU, UM, QUICKLY.
THIS IS HILL STREET RIGHT HERE.
THE EXISTING TOWN BOUNDARY LINE, UH, IS ACTUALLY NOT, UM, ALONG THIS ROAD, IT'S ACTUALLY, UH, A BIT, UH, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE SOUTH OF THAT AREA.
BUT, UH, YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE, THE CROSSHATCHED AREA IS THE AREA THAT, UM, IS PROPOSED AS PART OF THE, THE B-L-A-B-B-L-A.
SO AGAIN, THE TOWN BOUNDARY COMES DOWN HERE, UM, OR COMES ACROSS HERE TO PROPOSE BOUNDARY LEVEL ADJUSTMENT.
WOULD BRING IT TO, UH, HILL STREET AND THEN DOWN ALONG TOWN TOWER ROAD RIGHT HERE.
UM, SO AGAIN, LIBERTY STREET, HILL STREET, AND THEN TOWN ROAD RIGHT THERE.
UM, THIS IS A ILLUSTRATION OF JUST ONE OF THE ISSUES WITH THE CURRENT TOWN BOUNDARY.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF PARCELS ACTUALLY ARE SPLIT IN HALF BY THAT, BY THAT BOUNDARY, MEANING THAT PART OF THE, PART OF THE PARCEL IS IN THE COUNTY AND PART OF THE PARCEL IS IN THE TOWN.
BUT AGAIN, THIS, THIS, THIS BLACK LINE RIGHT HERE, IS IT SHOWING YOU THE EXISTING TOWN BOUNDARY.
UH, SO I WANTED TO STEP BACK QUICKLY AND KIND OF LOOK AT HOW ALL THIS HAPPENED, UH, AND SOME KEY TIMEFRAMES.
SO BACK IN JUNE, UH, OF THIS YEAR, THE COUNTY INFORMED, UM, OR THE TOWN INFORMED THE COUNTY OF ITS DESIRE TO PROCEED WITH A BLA.
THAT AGAIN, WAS BACK IN JUNE, UH, AFTER THAT TOWN AND COUNTY OFFICIALS MEANT TO REVIEW THE PROCESS AND DETERMINE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT, HOW THAT HAPPENED ABOUT A MONTH LATER.
AND, AND THAT MEETING WAS LARGELY, UH, LEGAL STAFF AND THE TOWN MANAGER AND, AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
UM, THEN SHORTLY AFTER THAT, ONCE WE FIGURED OUT WHO WAS DOING WHAT AND WHAT AGREEMENTS NEEDED TO BE DRAFTED AND PUT IN FRONT OF EACH GOVERNING BODY, AND IN AUGUST THE BOARD RECEIVES, RECEIVED THE MODEL BLA AGREEMENT.
UM, AND YOU THEN SCHEDULE THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT'S HAPPENING TONIGHT.
UH, AS FAR AS PUBLIC NOTICE, UM, THE CODE IS VERY SPECIFIC ON WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN IN THESE CASES.
UM, SO IN, IN AUGUST, THE COUNTY, UH, SENT OUT ITS FIRST PUBLIC NOTICE TO THE EASTERN SHORE POST THAT WAS ADVERTISED ON AUGUST 29TH.
WE DIDN'T FOLLOW IT UP, BUT THE SECOND NOTICE, WHICH WAS ADVERTISED ON 9 5 25.
AND AGAIN, THESE, THESE, THESE NOTICES HAVE A CERTAIN PRESCRIBED TIMEFRAME THAT THEY HAVE TO BE POSTED.
AND, AND WHAT WE DID COMPLIES WITH THE CODE ON THAT.
IN ADDITION, THE, THE CODE ALSO REQUIRES NOTICE OF PROPERTY OWNERS BY MAIL.
AND SO THAT WAS, UH, THOSE LETTERS WERE MAIL MAILED ON SEPTEMBER 2ND.
UM, SO THAT KIND OF BRINGS US TO TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING.
THE DIFFERENCE IN THE FONT HERE, THE GREEN, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.
AND THESE ARE ALL EVENTS THAT, UM, WILL, MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN IN CERTAIN CASES.
BUT, UH, YOU HAVE YOUR HEARING TONIGHT, THE TOWN PUBLIC HEARING.
AND ONE THING I WILL POINT OUT THAT YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY GOVERNING BODY THAT'S HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.
THE TOWN, THE TOWN OF HANCOCK IS ALSO HAVING A SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARING THAT'S GONNA OCCUR ON, UH, SEPTEMBER 22ND.
I DID MAKE A NOTE DOWN HERE THAT THIS TIMELINE DOESN'T SHOW THE NOTICES THAT THE TOWN IS PUT FORTH IN THE EASTERN SHORE POST, BUT THEY HAVE TO FILE THE SAME GUIDELINES GENERALLY AS WE DO.
SO THEY HAVE TO ADVERTISE IT TWICE.
SO THEIR, THEIR PUBLIC HEARING IS GONNA BE ON SEPTEMBER 22ND.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, IF THERE IS A, IF, IF TONIGHT THE BOARD WAS TO APPROVE THIS AGREEMENT, UH, THE, UH, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE, UH, A PETITION DEVELOPED BY BOTH THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY SEPARATELY BE TWO PETITIONS TO THE CIRCUIT COURT IN ORDER TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
UM, YOU ARE APPROVING THE AGREEMENT AND SETTING FORTH, OR PERHAPS APPROVING THE AGREEMENT AND SETTING FORTH THE PATH OF PETITIONING THE CIRCUIT COURT, BUT IT'S ULTIMATELY THE CIRCUIT COURT WHO'S GONNA DECIDE ON THIS MATTER? AND CERTAINLY, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A TIMEFRAME ON THAT, BUT GENERALLY THAT'S BEEN THE TIMEFRAME OF, OF THE EVENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE BLA.
SO, UM, A FEW FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS.
UM, THESE ARE, THESE ARE DERIVED FROM QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME IN SINCE WE STARTED ADVERTISING SOME OF THESE NOTICE.
AND SOME OF THEM ARE EXTRACTED OFF THE, UH, THE LETTER THAT WAS SENT TO THE, UH, IMPACTED PROPERTY OWNERS.
UH, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS THE FIRST TWO ITEMS ARE, ARE QUESTIONS, IF YOU WILL, ARE RELATED TO TAXES, AND
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WILL THE IMPACTED PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE TO PAY TOWN TAXES? AND THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS YES.UH, WILL THEY CONTINUE HAVE TO PAY COUNTY TAXES? YES, THEY WILL.
WHAT BENEFITS WILL IMPACT IF PROPERTY OWNERS RECEIVE IN EXCHANGE FOR THE NEW TAXES THEY'RE PAYING? SO THE ANSWER IS IMPACTED.
UH, PROPERTY OWNERS WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR ALL THE BENEFITS THAT ARE CURRENTLY PROVIDED TO TOWN RESIDENTS.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, POLICE PROTECTION WILL BE EXTENDED TO THE NEW BOUNDARY LINE.
UH, WILL CURRENT PROPERTY OWNERS NOT RECEIVING TOWN WATER AND SEWER SERVICES NEED TO CONNECT TO THE TOWN SYSTEM? THIS QUESTION HAS COME IN QUITE A FEW TIMES, BUT THE ANSWER IS CURRENTLY THE TOWN OF C**K.
AND THIS IS, THIS IS STRAIGHT FROM, FROM THE TOWN MANAGER.
AND IT WAS ACTUALLY, UH, THIS, THIS ANSWER IS ALMOST VERBATIM FROM THE, THE LETTER THAT WAS SENT.
BUT CURRENTLY, THE TOWN OF AN C**K HAS NO PLANS FOR NEW CONNECTIONS.
AND THE, UH, LETTER THAT WAS SENT TO THE OWNERS, UH, INSTRUCTED THEM THAT, THAT IF THEY WERE INTERESTED IN RECEIVING WATER AND OR SEWER SERVICES, THEY WERE TO CONTACT THE TOWN MANAGER TO SCHEDULE MEETING TO DISCUSS OPTIONS.
UH, PER THE CODE OF VIRGINIA AND TOWN ORDINANCE, ALL EXISTING KEYWORD BEING EXISTING, THEIR CUSTOMERS WILL BE REQUIRED TO REMAIN ON TOWN, UH, UTILITIES.
UM, SO THAT IS BASICALLY THE EXTENT OF THE STAFF REPORT.
UM, JUST A QUICK ONE QUICK, I'VE GOT ONE QUICK QUESTION, WHETHER YOU KNOW IT OR NOT, MAYBE IT'S TIMING.
UM, ON THE TIMELINE, WONDER WHY WE HAD OUR, UH, PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE T OF THE C**K? DID I, I THINK IT'S JUST BECAUSE OF WHEN, WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS.
YOU, YOUR, THE WAY YOUR DATES FOR YOUR MEETINGS.
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT YOU WERE THE FIRST ONE TO GET THE INFORMATION.
THAT'S WHAT I KIND OF THOUGHT.
I DON'T, I KNOW THIS IS YOUR DISTRICT, BUT YES, IT BOTHERS ME THAT I DON'T THINK, MY PERSONAL OPINION IS, I DON'T THINK THIS BOARD SHOULD MAKE A DECISION UNTIL AFTER, UNTIL AFTER AN C**K HAS THEIR PUBLIC HEARING AND THEY DO IT WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL GET TO THAT.
I DON'T THINK, I'M JUST SAYING, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT.
I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ANNEXATION AND BLA AND WHY, WHAT THIS ROUTE INSTEAD OF THE OTHER? WELL, IF YOU WANT A LEGAL EXPLANATION, I'LL ASK JANE, BUT I'LL I'LL GIVE YOU THE KEY TERM.
THIS IS A BLA IS A VOLUNTARY AGREEMENT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO DO IT.
NO, BETWEEN THE, THE TWO GOVERNING BODIES TO THE, UH, GOVERNING BODIES, THE TWO ENTITIES, NOT THE, NOT THE, THE, IN THIS CASE, THE TYING US, IT'S TYING IN THE CONDUCT COVER.
SO IF WE SAY NO, IF, IF YOU SAY NO, THE PROCESS ESSENTIALLY STOPS, STOPS.
SO, WELL, THEY COULD GO BACK TO ANNEX STILL.
THEY, THEY WOULD HAVE OTHER AVENUES.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR MR. MASON? NO.
AT THIS TIME I OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, AND WE DO HAVE SOME, UH, SOME PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED UP.
AND PLEASE, UH, BEAR WITH ME ON THE PRONUNCIATION.
'CAUSE UH, SOME OF THESE I CAN'T QUITE MAKE OUT.
WILL SHE READ 'EM? WE'VE ALREADY READ SHE SHE READ YEAH, SHE DID.
SHE DID TO START WITH, YEAH, WE THAT AND THAT COVERS BOTH PUBLIC HEARINGS.
I NEED, LOOKING AT FAR, UH, FIRST ON THE FIRST ON THE, UH, LIST IS, UH, I THINK IT'S GRAYSON WILLIAMS, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR.
WOULD YOU PLEASE JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? THANK YOU.
UH, GRAYSON WILLIAMS, 22 LIBERTY STREET, HANCOCK, VIRGINIA.
UM, SO FIRST, MY FIRST POINT IS I'M A DIRECT AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNER AND I WAS NEVER CONTACTED BY THE TOWN OR COUNTY.
I HAD TO REACH OUT WITH MY PERSONAL EMAIL TO, UM, THE COUNTY IN TOWN WITH NO RESPONSE.
UM, SO THEY DID PROVIDE ME BACK THE RESOLUTION, THE MAPPING AGREEMENT, AND WHERE I WAS NOT PROVIDED ANY OF THE INFORMATION THAT ANY OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS RECEIVED.
UM, SO I FIRST SENT AN EMAIL ON THE 27TH TO THE TOWN AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF AKIMA COUNTY WITH NO RESPONSE.
I SENT AN EMAIL TO THE 28TH TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR THROUGH THE, UH, EASTERN SHORE POST.
THE EMAIL WAS ACTUALLY INCORRECT.
SO I GOT A, UM, BACK, THEY LIKE, SAY COULDN'T GO THROUGH.
SO I HAD TO DO MY OWN, UM, RESEARCH TO GET THE ACTUAL PROPER EMAIL ADDRESS TO GET THE INFORMATION.
UM, AND I, I DON'T LIKE HOW I HAD TO GO OUT OF MY OWN WAY TO DO THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF I DIDN'T SEND THAT EMAIL, WOULD I KNOW ABOUT THIS? UM, YOU KNOW, A SURVEY ALSO WAS CONDUCTED IN MARCH OF 2025.
UM, THE SURVEYOR ENCROACHED ON MY PROPERTY WITHOUT ME KNOWING ANYTHING.
SO I WAS OUT IN MY YARD AND HE JUST COMES ON MY PROPERTY DOING HIS OWN THING, ASKING WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND HE WAS LIKE, OH, THE TOWN DIRECTED ME TO DO THIS.
SO, UM, I DID MY OWN RESEARCH ON
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THIS.UM, THE ONLY NOTICE I REALLY SAW ABOUT THIS IS IN AUGUST 25TH, 2025 AT TOWN COUNCIL.
UM, NOTHING WAS IN THE MEETING, UH, THE MINUTES OR THE AGENDA OR ANYTHING.
THE ONLY THING I SAW WAS IN THE, UH, THE PACKET OF THE TOWN MANAGER'S STASH REPORT.
THE LAST BULLET TO SAY THAT, UM, THE BOARD HERE SUGGESTING HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING OR A PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, SO, UM, AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, WHAT ELSE IS BEING MISSED IF I WAS MISSED? UH, NUMBER TWO IS, UH, MR. MASON, THANKS FOR CLARIFYING SOME OF THE INFORMATION ON SOME OF THAT.
'CAUSE I WAS LOOKING FOR WHERE THIS BOUNDARY LINE WAS BEING DERIVED FROM.
YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT STARTED THIS? THE ONLY THING I COULD FIND WAS THE COMP PLAN IN 2020, IN 2018 THAT WAS AMENDED, UM, TALKING ABOUT THAT THE COUNTY AND THE TOWN WOULD WORK TOGETHER FOR DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE TOWN OF, IN C**K FOR EXPANDING THE BOUNDARY, UH, LINE OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
UM, SO MY QUESTIONS I HAVE ARE, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? WHY RIGHT NOW, UH, DURING THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING, THE TOWN MANAGER DID SAY THAT HE WAS APPROACHED TWO YEARS AGO BY THIS.
I WANNA KNOW BY WHO, UH, IS THAT DOCUMENTED ANYWHERE? UM, IS THIS FOR DEVELOPMENTS? ARE WE JUST ASSUMING PROPERTY OWNERS WILL TURN THIS INTO A DEVELOPMENT? UM, WHETHER REQUIREMENTS ON HOW THIS LINE WAS DEVELOPED, UM, I WAS NEVER CONTACTED AGAIN.
LIKE WHAT ELSE IS BEING LEFT AWAY FROM ME AS A PROPERTY OWNER AND PAYING TAXES? UM, WHY IS THIS EXPANSION NOT SPECIFICALLY DOCUMENTED ACCOUNT PLAN EDA OR PLANNING, UM, DOCUMENT WHAT ARE MY TAXES? HOW WILL THEY BE INCREASED? AND THEN, UM, I'M JUST AGAINST THIS DUE TO THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION AND THE LACK OF SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS FOR THIS.
AND IS IT, I'M SORRY, IS IT A FITZPATRICK? MAYBE.
WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? THANK YOU.
HELLO, MY NAME IS PAM FITZPATRICK.
I LIVE AT 60 HILL STREET ON C**K, AND I'M AN AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNER OF THE PLAT PLAN THAT WAS SHOWN ON EXHIBIT A OF THE MAP.
UM, I'M GONNA ADJUST THIS JUST A LITTLE BIT.
UM, I'M WRITING TO YOU OR SPEAKING WITH YOU TODAY.
I'M, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME STATE, I'M NOT A LAWYER, SO I'M NOT GOING TO BE AS ORGANIZED AS MR. MASON WAS OR THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER.
BUT I AM, UM, REACHING OUT TO YOU TODAY AS AN AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNER TO STATE MY OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED BOUNDARY LINE ADJUSTMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE TOWN AS DESCRIBING THE LETTER THAT WAS DATED SEPTEMBER 2ND, UM, THAT WE RECEIVED SEPTEMBER 5TH.
AND WHAT I'M REQUESTING OF YOU TODAY IS A DELAY IN YOUR VOTE UNTIL THE AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS ARE PROVIDED WITH ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS WE HAVE ABOUT THE PROPOSAL.
UM, I KNOW MR. MASON SPOKE A LOT ABOUT THE CODE AND THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE, AND WE DID OUR OWN RESEARCH ON THE CODE AND FOUND THAT IF THE OWNERS OF AT LEAST ONE THIRD OF THE AFFECTED PARCELS OBJECT TO THE CHANGE, THEY SHALL BE PERMITTED TO INTERVENE IN THE PROCEEDINGS AS PRESCRIBED IN 15,000 231 0 8 AND SHOW CAUSE WHY THE BOUNDARY LINE SHOULD NOT BE CHANGED.
SO WE HAVE RECEIVED LIMITED INFORMATION, UM, THUS FAR WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THIS TIMELINE, FOR EXAMPLE, IN OUR LETTERS.
THERE ARE SOME OTHER SURVEYS AND THINGS THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE PACKETS THAT WERE MAILED TO US.
AND SO WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE NOW, WE'RE CONCERNED THAT THE PROPOSAL CREATES SOME PARTICULARIZED HARM, MEANING SOME, UH, SORT OF DISADVANTAGES THAT ARE GIVEN TO THE SEVERAL PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE NAMED IN THESE DOCUMENTS.
AND WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO HELP US FURTHER UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS OF THESE CHANGES BEFORE YOU WOULD CAST A VOTE.
SO A GROUP OF PROPERTY AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS REPRESENTING MORE THAN A THIRD OF THE AFFECTED PARCELS, UM, IS PRESENTING YOU WITH A CONCISE LIST OF QUESTIONS, WHICH WE'LL READ TO YOU AND SUBMIT FOR THE RECORD, UM, AT THIS MEETING.
AND WE'LL ALSO BE ATTENDING THE TOWN HEARING ON THE 22ND.
I ALSO HAVE LETTERS FROM SEVERAL OTHER AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS HERE TODAY.
AND YOU CAN LET ME KNOW, SHOULD I READ THE NAMES OF THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS NOW OR HOW WOULD YOU LIKE THOSE SUBMITTED FOR THE RECORD? HOW, HOW WOULD WE SUBMIT THAT? GIVE IT TO GIVE IT TO, YEAH, WE'LL TURN IT TO THE EVERYTHING TO THE ADMINISTRATOR.
SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT YOU POSTPONE A VOTE UNTIL WE'RE ABLE TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THIS MEANS FOR US.
YES,
SO, UH, IS THIS, UH, MR. FITZPATRICK? YES, SIR.
IS THAT DEAN OR DAN? IT'S DAN.
UM, ONE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS AFFECTED
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BY THIS PROPOSED ADDITION TO AN C**K.I JUST WANNA READ SOME QUESTIONS INTO THE RECORD THAT, UM, WE AS PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE, SOME OF WHICH HAVE BEEN MENTIONED, SO THERE MIGHT BE SOME OVERLAP.
VERY SIMPLY, WHAT IS THE GOAL OF THIS BLA THAT HASN'T BEEN STATED OR EXPLAINED TO US? UM, THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A, A STATEMENT FROM MR. MASON ABOUT ANNEXATION VERSUS BLA, BUT WHY EXACTLY WAS A BLA CHOSEN AS OPPOSED TO THE ANNEXATION? AGAIN, WE'D LIKE AN ANSWER TO THAT.
WHEN EXACTLY DID CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS PROJECT BEGIN? YOU'LL NOTICE ON THE TIMELINE, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS, I THINK JUNE 12TH IS WHEN THE COUNTY INFORMED, UH, THE COUNTY SAID THE COUNTY WAS INFORMED BY THE TOWN OF ITS DESIRE TO DO THIS.
YOU'LL, YOU'LL NOTICE THOUGH THAT THE, I THINK THE SURVEY IS DATED MARCH 8TH.
UM, SOME OF US SAW THE SURVEYOR ON THE PROPERTY, I THINK AS EARLY AS JANUARY.
SO I FEEL LIKE THERE'S MORE TO THIS TIMELINE THAT PERHAPS COULD BE PROVIDED.
AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE, UM, ALL OF YOU ARE OWED THAT AS WELL.
BEFORE YOU CONSIDER A VOTE ON THIS PROPOSAL, UM, WHO EXACTLY HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS PROJECT? WHO ORIGINATED THIS TOPIC? AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S MISSING FROM THIS TIMELINE.
JUST SPECIFIC NAMES, INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD ALSO BE HELPFUL TO US.
I FEEL LIKE ALL OF YOU WOULD BENEFIT FROM THAT AS WELL.
HOW EXACTLY WAS THIS BOUNDARY LINE DETERMINED? WE FEEL LIKE THAT HASN'T BEEN EXPLAINED.
UM, AND THEN AN ANALYSIS OF THE IMPACTS ON SOME, SOME FACTORS FOR EXISTING PROPERTY OWNERS AS A RESULT OF THIS CHANGE.
LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, TAXES, SERVICES, POLICE, FIRE ZONING, ORDINANCES.
WE FEEL LIKE MORE DETAIL, MORE ANALYSIS WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US AND ALSO FOR YOU AS YOU CONSIDER THIS PROJECT.
SO THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I WANTED TO READ INTO THE RECORD TONIGHT.
IS THAT, UM, NEXT ON THE IS BONNIE, IS THAT BONNIE WARREN? IS THAT RIGHT? YES.
HI, MY NAME IS BONNIE WARREN AND WE LIVE ON 2 5 1 3 3 TOWER ROAD.
I LIVE WITH MY BOYFRIEND DANIEL KILMAN, WHO'S BEEN THERE FOR 27 YEARS AND I'VE BEEN THERE ALMOST 12.
UM, WE ALL LOVE THE EASTERN SHORE.
WE'RE SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE GROWTH.
UM, AND I'M SURE ALL OF YOU HAVE HEARD THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER, BUT ARE WE STILL LISTENING TO THE KIND OF GROWTH WE WANT FOR THE EASTERN SHORE AND WE WANT FOR EVEN THE TOWNS THAT ARE ON THE EASTERN SHORE? I KNOW I FIND MYSELF SOMETIMES NOT EVEN PAYING ATTENTION, JUST WALKING THROUGH LIFE AND NOT PAYING ATTENTION, BUT I'M AFRAID WE'RE DESTROYING OUR BEAUTIFUL EASTERN SHORE IF WE DON'T SLOW DOWN.
WE HAVE A STAKE IN HOW WE KEEP THE EASTERN SHORE BEAUTIFUL AS IT'S EVER BEEN.
WE CAN'T CHANGE IT ONCE WE DESTROY IT.
WHY ARE WE NOT FOCUSING ON JOBS, SUSTAINABLE JOBS AT THIS POINT? ANY KIND OF JOBS WOULD BE HELPFUL.
JOBS FOR LOW EDUCATION OR LOW EDUCATION AND UP, THEY'RE JUST AS IMPORTANT.
WE DON'T NEED ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT JOBS, WITHOUT ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT.
WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO OUR SCHOOLS, OUR DOCTOR'S OFFICE ROADS, AND THE SMALL HOSPITAL THAT WE HAVE NOW, I JUST WANNA SUBMIT MY PAPER TOO FOR OUR ADDRESS, AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL GIVING ME THE TIME.
HAD TO DO THIS SINCE HIGH SCHOOL.
YOU DID A, YOU DID A, YOU DID A FINE JOB.
UM, MS. BONNIE SAVAGE, THAT'S GONNA BE SHORT AND SWEET.
IT MUST BE NICE TO KNOW SO MUCH AND BE ABLE TO, TO TELL PEOPLE AND LOOK AT 'EM.
I LIVE AT 1 9 5 8 3 CVILLE ROAD.
I'VE BEEN THERE 60 WHOLE YEARS AND I'M NO LONGER THE HOMEOWNER.
MY DAUGHTER IS, AND SHE, SHE HAS A LETTER HERE FOR, FOR YOU TO READ THAT SHE EMAILED.
AND WE ARE IN, NEVER AGREED ON EVERYTHING, BUT WE AGREE ON THIS.
WE WANT NO PART, WE WANT NO PART.
WHEN I'M, WE MOVED THERE, ME AND MY HUSBAND, THAT'S WHERE WE WANTED TO BE.
WE DID NOT WANT TO BE IN THE TOWN.
IF WE HAD WANTED TO BE IN THE TOWN, THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD'VE GONE.
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NARROW MIND OF, OF LOOKING AT IT, BUT THAT'S HOW I SEE IT.AND ALSO, AND THEN WE HAVE, IS IT, UH, DIANA HARRISON? IS THAT RIGHT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
HI, MY NAME'S DIANA HARRISON AND I DO NOT LIVE WITHIN THE BLA, BUT I'M SPEAKING FROM MY MOTHER WHO LIVES ON 1 9 5 5 7 CASTRO ROAD.
AND HER NAME IS NANCY HOSKINSON.
UM, I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE BECAUSE THEY'RE THE SAME ONES, BUT THERE WAS, UH, ONE MORE QUESTION, A GENERAL QUESTION LIKE HAVE YOU ENGAGED ANY OF THE EFFECTIVE PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, REGARDING THE PROJECT PRIOR TO THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE NOTICES? AND SOME SPEC SPECIFIC QUESTIONS I HAD WAS REGARDING MY MOTHER'S PROPERTY.
WHY WAS 1 9 5 5 7 CASTRO ROAD PARCEL NUMBER 92 A 94 8 INCLUDED IN THE BLA WHEN IT DOES NOT ABUT THE 80 PLUS ACRES OF THE FARMLAND PROPERTY OF INTEREST.
AND IN THAT CASE, WHY WASN'T THE REST OF TOWER ROAD INCLUDED IN THE BLA, PARTICULARLY THE HOUSE AT THE VERY END OF TOWER ROAD, WHICH DOES ABUT THAT PROPERTY.
AND THEN FINALLY, WHAT'S THE RUSH? UM, FROM WHAT I FOUND IN THE TOWN TRANSCRIPT, UM, FROM THEIR AUGUST, 2025 MEETING, WHICH HASN'T BEEN THE MINUTES, HAVEN'T BEEN PUBLISHED YET 'CAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN APPROVED, OBVIOUSLY.
BUT, UM, I DID FIND THE TRANSCRIPT WHEN I WAS LOOKING ONLINE AND THEY WERE APPROACHED A FEW YEARS AGO, ACCORDING TO MATT.
SO WHAT'S THE URGENCY? BECAUSE LAND HASN'T BEEN SOLD.
THERE'S OTHER PROPERTY HERE WHERE YOU'RE DEVELOPING AND NOTHING'S MOVED YET ON THAT.
SO IT COULD BE YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS BEFORE THIS EVER TAKES EFFECT.
SO I'M, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHY THAT TIMELINE IS SO RUSHED.
AND SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU MAKE A MOTION TO DELAY VOTING ON THIS ISSUE UNTIL THE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE ANSWERS.
AND AGAIN, I, I'D LIKE, I'VE GOT THE SIGNED LETTER AND I'D LIKE THIS TO BE IN THE MINUTES PLEASE.
SO AT THIS TIME I CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
UM, WHAT I WOULD, UH, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, I'M NOT GONNA ASK FOR A MOTION.
UH, THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED.
UH, I HAVE SOME MYSELF AT THIS TIME.
UM, AND I ALSO FEEL THAT THE COUNTY, UM, MAY BE IN A BETTER POSITION, UH, TO POSSIBLY ACT ON THIS ONCE THE TIME HANCOCK IS ACTED.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO TABLE THIS UNTIL AT LEAST NEXT MONTH.
IT WOULD BE BETTER IF WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE.
UH, WE HAVE A MOTION AND I PROBABLY SECOND OR TO TABLE THIS UNTIL AT LEAST NEXT TO CONTINUE TO CONTINUE.
SO WE ONLY HAVE ONE THING LEFT ON OUR AGENDA.
WE DO HAVE A CLOSED SESSION, RIGHT? WE DO.
ALRIGHT, SO AT THIS TIME I'D LET MS. JOHNSON, WOULD YOU, UH, MOVE TAKE US INTO OUR CLOSED SESSION? YES.
I MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION TO VIRGINIA.
CLOSED SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 A FIVE DASH FOUR, UH, CONSULTING CONCERNING A PROSPECTIVE BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY WHERE NO, UH, PREVIOUS ANNOUNCEMENT HAS BEEN MADE.
OTHER BUSINESSES OR INDUSTRY INTERESTED IN LOCATING OR EXPANDING ITS FACILITIES IN MACK COUNTY AND CODE VIRGINIA.
CODE SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 A THREE DASH FOUR, DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE ACCUSATION OF REAL PROPERTY FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE OR OF THE DISPOSITION OF PUBLICLY HELD REAL PROPERTY, WHERE DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN MEETING WOULD ADVERSITY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY.
SECOND TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION.
ALL OPPOSED? AND WE ARE ENCLOSED SESSION.
ALL RIGHT, WE GOOD? EVERYTHING BACK HOT.
MS. JOHNSON, WILL YOU BRING US ITEM OF CLOSED SESSION? YES.
I CERTIFY THAT TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE, I ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS.
LAWFULLY ACCEPTED FROM OPENING MEETING REQUIRES UNDER VIRGINIA LAW AND I ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSED SESSION WAS CONVENED, WERE HEARD TO, DISCUSSED OR CONSIDERED IN THE MEETING.
AND ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION PROPERLY.
SECOND, UH, AFFIRMATION OF ROLL CALL VOTE.
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WE ARE OUT OF, WE ARE BACK IN.
I THINK WE'RE BACK IN OPEN SESSION.
AND WE HAVE ONE ITEM LEFT ON THE ADJOURN.
ALL OPPOSED? WE ARE ADJOURNED.