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HAVE A QUORUM WITH, UH,[Planning Commission Regular Meeting on October 8, 2025.]
ALL COMMISSIONERS PRESENT.UH, I GUESS DO, UH, WE HAVE ANY, UH, WE'LL GO TO ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA.
DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR SUBTRACTIONS TO THE AGENDA? NO.
I MOVE, WE ACCEPT THE AGENDA AS PROPOSED.
I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT AS WRITTEN.
ALRIGHT, WE MOVE ON TO THE MINUTES OF WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 10TH.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS WITHOUT ANY CORRECTIONS OR ADJUSTMENTS? I MOVE.
WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.
I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND TO, UH, ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
OPPOSED? MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
HAS ANYBODY SUB SIGNED UP FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT? NO.
WE CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AND MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR EAGLE SOUND.
2, 2, 3 2 REVIEW FOR ACCEPTANCE OF SANDPIPER LANE AND OYSTER LANE.
AND SHE WENT TO GO GET A CLICKER BECAUSE EVIDENTLY THE ONE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO STAY IN HERE IS A LOT.
SO I'M GONNA GO, WE MIGHT, WE MIGHT HAVE TO PAUSE UNLESS YOU WANT TO MOVE TO A DIFFERENT PUBLIC HEARING.
NO, WE'LL JUST, WE'LL JUST PAUSE AND WAIT.
PAM, WOULD YOU MIND OPERATING THE LAPTOP IF WE CAN GET THAT TO YES, MA'AM.
UH, ASHANTI'S RIDLEY COUNTY PLANNER ONE.
UH, THIS EVENING I WILL BE PRESENTING THE EAGLE SOUND 2232 REVIEW FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF BAYVIEW AND ILET LANE INTO THE VDOT SECONDARY HIGHWAY SYSTEM.
UH, THIS IS THE AREA OF THE SUBDIVISION YOU CAN SEE EAGLET LANE.
THIS AREA IS SHOWING WELL DEPICTING THE NUMBER OF RESIDENCES.
SO FOR EAGLE LANE, WE HAVE THREE RESIDENCES THERE.
THESE ARE SOME SITE PHOTOS SHOWING THE ENTRANCES FROM KNOX LANDING ROAD FROM BOTH LANES, AND THEN FROM BOTH
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LANES BACK OUT TO KNOX LANDING ROAD.UH, THESE NEXT TWO SLIDES ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES, UGLY SHOWING THE SUBDIVISION PLATS FOR THE SUBDIVISION.
SO VDOT HAD CONTACTED THE COUNTY WITH A REQUEST FROM THE EAGLE SOUND PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION REQUESTING THAT BAYVIEW AND EAGLE LANE BE ACCEPTED INTO THE VDO S UH, SECONDARY SYSTEM OF HIGHWAYS.
FROM THERE, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AT THEIR AUGUST 20TH, 2025 MEETING PASSED AN INITIATION INITIATING RESOLUTION, TASKING THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH DOING A 2232 REVIEW OF THIS REQUEST.
SO THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THIS REVIEW IS GOING TO BE DETERMINING IF THIS REQUEST IS SUBSTANTIALLY ACCORD, UH, WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PER VIRGINIA STATE CODE 15.2 DASH 2232.
OKAY, SO WHAT IS A 2232 REVIEW? AGAIN, IT'S SECTION 15.2 DASH 2232 OF THE VIRGINIA CODE.
AND WE ARE GOING TO, WELL, NOT WE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION TONIGHT IS GOING TO BE DETERMINING IF A LOCATION, CHARACTER, AND EXTENT OF THIS REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR CURRENT COMP PLAN.
BOTH OF THESE ROADS, UH, EAGLE LIT LANE AND BAYVIEW HAVE BOTH BEEN INSPECTED BY BDOT.
IT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED THAT THEY MEET CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS.
UM, SO EAGLE SOUND SUBDIVISION IS COMPROMISED OF FOUR ROADS.
UM, EACH OF THEM LEAD OUT TO KNOX LANDING ROAD.
UM, TWO OF THEM SAND PIPER LANE AND OYSTER COVE LANGUAGE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SOME OF YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH.
THOSE WERE ACCEPTED IN 2021, UM, AND ACCEPTED AND BY THE, UH, APPROVED BY THE COUNTY AND ACCEPTED BY VDOT.
AND NOW THEY WANT TO DO THE SAME WITH ELI LANE AND BAYVIEW.
UM, IN 2021, THOSE TWO DID NOT MEET ALL THE REQUIRED STANDARDS TO BE ACCEPTED.
SO NOW WE GET TO THE INSPECTION BY VDOT.
SO BOTH, AGAIN, HAVE BEEN INSPECTED BY VDOT.
IT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED THAT THEY MEET THE CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS.
UM, AND LISTED UP HERE, WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE STANDARDS AND THEY NOW ALSO MEET THE OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENT.
SO, AGAIN, BAYVIEW, UM, FIVE HOMES, EAGLE LANE THREE, THERE ARE SOME HOMES CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS WELL.
SO THOSE NUMBERS WILL INCREASE.
UM, AND AT THE TIME IN 2021, THEY DID NOT HAVE AT LEAST THREE HOMES, WHICH IS ONE OF THE QUALIFICATIONS TO BE ADDED INTO THE ROAD SYSTEM BY VDO.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONSIDERATIONS CHAPTER FIVE, GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES.
OBJECTIVE 10, TRANSPORTATION PLAN 10 DASH FIVE ENCOURAGES ALL NEW STREETS TO BE ACCEPTED INTO THE VDOT ROAD SYSTEM.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT WILL SUPPORT SAFE AND RELIABLE TRANSPORTATION, PROMOTES PUBLIC MAINTENANCE OF SUBDIVISION ROADS AND ALSO ALIGNS WITH THE COUNTY'S GO GOALS FOR ROAD QUALITY AND CONNECTIVITY.
THE STAFF RECOMMENDS A FINDING OF SUBSTANTIALLY AND ACCORD WITH THE 2018 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.
AND I WILL READ THESE THREE REASONS INTO THE RECORD.
NUMBER ONE, THE ROADS PROVIDE DIRECT ACCESS TO A VDO MAINTAIN ROUTE TWO, THE ROADS MEET VDOT OCCUPANCY AND DESIGN STANDARDS.
ACCEPTANCE SUPPORTS ACT SUPPORTS COUNTY TRANSPORTATION OBJECTIVES.
STAFF FURTHER RECOMMENDS THE INCLUSION OF THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION AS REQUIRED AND FORWARDED BY VDO T'S LAND USE ENGINEER.
AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE, I CAN READ THIS INTO THE RECORD AS WELL.
AFTER THE ABOVE ITEMS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, THE COUNTY MUST PASS A RESOLUTION WHICH GUARANTEES THAT THE RIGHT OF WAY IS NOT ENCUMBERED BY ANY COVENANTS OR EASEMENTS.
ROADWAY MAINTENANCE BY VDOT WILL COMMENCE FOLLOWING ACCEPTANCE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY BY VDOT AND FOLLOWING THE COMPLETION OF A GUARANTEED PERIOD.
AND STAFF RECOMMENDS THE FOLLOWING MOTION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO QUESTIONS.
DOES WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT OR
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FOR EAGLE SOUND? NO, NO ONE.SO IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, AND WE HAVE NO ONE ALL RIGHT, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UM, NO MORE DISCUSSION OR MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FINDS THAT THE LOCATION, CHARACTER AND EXTENT, UH, TO THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE TWO STREETS IN EAGLE SOUND SUBDIVISION, SUBDIVISION BAY, BAYVIEW LANE, AND EAGLET LANE BE ACCEPTED INTO THE PUBLIC SECONDARY HIGHWAY SYSTEM AS DESCRIBED IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND THAT IT ISN'T SUBSTANTIALLY IN ACCORD WITH THE 2018 AKIMA COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THAT WE SHOULD SEND THIS TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THEY SHOULD ACCEPT IT.
WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE REZONING OF 0 0 0 1 4 1 DASH 2025.
REZONING PART OF THE DERBY FARM FROM AG INDUSTRIAL WITH PROFFERS FOR VIRGINIA FACE.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, LEE PAM, THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
I'M GONNA BE COVERING THE NEXT TWO ITEMS, WHICH ARE THE, WHICH ARE BOTH OF THE REZONINGS.
CAN WE DO ONE AT A TIME? SAY AGAIN? CAN WE DO ONE AT A TIME? WELL, AND THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE'LL BE DOING ONE AT A TIME, BUT I'M GONNA BE THE ONE WHO'S GONNA BE PROVIDING THESE STAFF REPORTS TO YOU.
SO IF WE COULD ADVANCE TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
UM, GENERALLY WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE, WE HEARD FROM ALL OF THE, UH, VARIOUS AGENCIES.
YOU, YOU SAW THAT BASICALLY LAST TIME WE HAD A, UH, UM, A WORK SESSION ON, UH, ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 23RD.
AT THE TIME, UH, UH, COMMENTS WERE STILL PENDING FROM BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND ENVIRONMENTAL, AND THEY HAVE NO COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.
AND THOSE ARE INTERNAL, UH, INTERNAL AGENCIES OR INTERNAL REVIEWERS.
THE MAJOR REVIEWERS THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO HEAR FROM WERE FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THE, UH, UH, VDOT AND ANAC.
SO THERE ARE SOME ELEMENTS OF BOTH OF THESE THAT, UH, THAT APPLY OR, OR, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY APPLY TO BOTH CASES.
I WILL BE COVERING BOTH OF THEM, AND OF COURSE, WE CAN REFER BACK TO SOME OF THESE IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS.
BUT, SO AS TO SAVE TIME AND NOT HAVE TO REPEAT DURING THE SECOND, UH, I WILL GO AHEAD AND JUST MENTION, UH, PROFFERS GENERALLY THE STATEMENT OF INTENT FOR THE INDUSTRIAL, UH, ZONING DISTRICT, WHAT THE EFFECTS OF REZONINGS ARE ON THE A FD OR AG AND FORESTAL DISTRICTS.
AND THERE ARE CERTAIN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ELEMENTS AND CONSIDERATIONS IN Q, INCLUDING FUTURE LAND USE THAT APPLY TO BOTH.
SO I, I WILL TRY TO SAVE THE COMMISSION AND THE AUDIENCE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME BY GOING INTO THESE FIRST.
AND THEN I, AND THEN, AS YOU HAD MENTIONED MADAM CHAIR, OBVIOUSLY I, THAT THERE ARE, UH, DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE TWO CASES, AND WE'LL TAKE THOSE ONE AT A TIME.
BUT THESE ELEMENTS HERE APPLY TO BOTH CASES.
SO FIRST OF ALL, PROFFERS GENERALLY ARE, UM, ARE CONTROLLED BY VIRGINIA STATE CODE SECTION 15.2 DASH 2302.
THEIR VOLUNTARY CONDITIONS, THEY WILL BE BINDING AND TECHNICALLY THEY BECOME PART OF THE, UH, ZONING OF THE PROPERTY, AND THEY BECOME PART OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
UM, AMENDMENTS FOLLOW THE SAME PROCESS AS THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL.
SO IF, UH, IF AN APPLICANT WERE TO COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, I WANT TO CHANGE A PROFFER, OR I WANT TO CHANGE SOMETHING ABOUT THE, ABOUT THE CASE, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH, UH, GOING THROUGH THE STAFF, HAVING A PLANNING COMMISSION, PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN HAVING A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, AND AS I HAD JUST MENTIONED, PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE REQUIRED BEFORE BOTH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
SO THIS STATEMENT OF INTENT IS FOR THE INDUSTRIAL EYE ZONING DISTRICT.
AND I'M GONNA MAKE THE, THE, UH, DISTINCTION BETWEEN FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND THE ZONING DISTRICT.
HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REZONING, UH, TWO SITES FROM AGRICULTURAL TO INDUSTRIAL.
AND WHAT YOU HAVE HERE ON THE SCREEN, I WILL NOT READ THIS WHOLE THING IN THERE, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, I DID HIGHLIGHT THE, UH, THE APPLICABLE USES THAT THE STATEMENT OF INTENT REFERS TO AEROSPACE, MANUFACTURING, REPAIR, AND MAINTENANCE.
WE'RE GOING TO THE EFFECTS OF REZONINGS ON AG AND FORESTAL DISTRICTS.
SO THERE ARE, UM, UH, THERE ARE PARTS OF BOTH SITES THAT ARE DESIGNATED A FD.
THE INTENT OF THE PROGRAM IS TO PRESERVE AGRICULTURAL OPERATIONS IN OPEN SPACE FROM DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEY DO THAT BY INCENTIVIZING PROPERTY OWNERS WITH CERTAIN REAL ESTATE TAX BENEFITS AS THEY AGREE TO NOT DEVELOP THEIR LAND.
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TO KEEP IT IN, UM, THEY HAVE TO KEEP IT IN, UH, PRODUCTION OR AS OPEN SPACE.IF THEY WANT TO DO SO MUCH AS TO PUT A SHED ON THEIR PROPERTY, THEN THEY, THEY EITHER HAVE TO FIGURE SOMETHING ELSE OUT, UH, UH, OR TAKE THEIR, UH, OR, OR GET THAT PROPERTY REZONED OR TAKE IT OUT OF A FD.
SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A, A PROPERTY THAT CONTAINS AG AND FORESTAL DISTRICT IS REZONED THAT, THAT, UM, THAT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY OR THAT PART OF THE A FD IS REMOVED FROM THE PROGRAM, AND THAT'S DONE BY OPERATION OF LAW THAT IS CONTROLLED BY SECTION 13 OF THE AG AND FOREST SCHOOL DISTRICT ORDINANCE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PASSED IN 2007.
ALRIGHT, SO, UH, FUTURE LAND USE, WE'RE GONNA GET INTO A FEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONSIDERATIONS.
AND AS I HAD MENTIONED, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, WHICH IS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH ACTUALLY HAS REGULATION AND THE TEETH OF LAW BEHIND IT.
SO, A SO AS WE ALL KNOW, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS AN ADVISORY DOCUMENT THAT EVERY LOCALITY IS REQUIRED TO HAVE.
AND IN THAT DOCUMENT, THERE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR LAND USE.
UH, WE HAVE VARIOUS, UH, LAND USE CLASSIFICATIONS, INDUSTRIAL AREAS BEING ONE OF THEM.
BUT, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, AGAIN, WITHOUT READING THE ENTIRE SLIDE TO YOU, UH, WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING OUT OF THIS, OUT OF THE, UH, ESPECIALLY THE DARBY FARM APPLICATION, BUT THIS ALSO APPLIES TO THE, UH, TO THE SEAFOOD PLANT IN MAXVILLE, SOME LARGE SCALE INTENSIVE INDUSTRIAL ENTERPRISES.
OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO DISCUSS TWO ELEMENTS OR, OR, OR TWO BASIC CONCEPTS, UH, THAT COMING, THAT COME OUTTA THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
NUMBER ONE IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS RURAL CHARACTER.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST SOME, UH, SOME BOILERPLATE LANGUAGE, UH, THAT I'M GONNA HAVE UP HERE AT THE TOP.
UH, GOALS, OBJECTIVES, POLICIES AND RECOMMENDATIONS ARE BASICALLY THE HEART OF EVERY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THAT'S WHERE YOU, UH, THAT'S WHERE YOU IDENTIFY WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH OVER THE NEXT, UM, WE'LL CALL IT 40 YEARS.
UH, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE SUPPOSED TO REVISE THEM OR REVIEW THEM EVERY FIVE YEARS, GENERALLY HAS ABOUT A 30 TO 40 YEAR HORIZON.
SO IT'S, IT'S ABOUT A 30 TO 40 YEAR LOOK INTO THE FUTURE TO WHAT, UH, WHAT THIS COUNTY IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE, SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
OBJECTIVE SEVEN, UH, WHICH IS FOUND ON PAGE FIVE DASH 16 OF THE COMP PLAN, UH, STATES THAT WE, WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT ESTABLISHING A BUSINESS FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT THAT PROMOTES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, COMPATIBLE WITH THE COUNTY'S ADOPTIVE ADOPTED OBJECTIVES AND VISION FOR THE FUTURE.
UNDER THAT OBJECTIVE, WE'VE GOT POLICIES, AND THEN THERE ARE GONNA BE SOME, UH, UM, SOME, UH, UM, UH, RECOMMENDED ACTIONS.
BUT POLICY SEVEN DASH EIGHT ACTUALLY SPEAKS DIRECTLY TO THE, UH, TO THE SPACEPORT AND IT READS AS FOLLOWS.
UH, IT'S SUPPOSED TO PROTECT THE DESIGNATED POTENTIAL IMPACT AREAS IN THE VICINITY OF WALLACE ISLAND REGIONAL SPACEPORT FACILITY FROM INTENSIVE DEVELOPMENT, PARTICULARLY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT MAY CAUSE UNDUE RISK TO PUBLIC SAFETY OR MP THE DEVELOPMENT AND USE OF THE SPACEPORT AS A MAJOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RESOURCE.
IF YOU RECALL FROM YOUR WORK SESSION, AND I'M GONNA COVER THIS IN A MAP WHERE WE HAVE, UM, TWO, UM, TWO SAFETY ARCS OR HAZARD ARCS, IF YOU WILL, ONE AT 10,000 FEET AND ONE AT 20,000 FEET FROM THE LAUNCH PADS.
THE DARBY FARM IS ENTIRELY WITHIN THE 10,000 SQUARE FOOT, UH, 10,000 FOOT ARC.
AND THE, UH, AND THE MAXVILLE SITE, JUST A SMALL PORTION OF IT, IS TOUCHED BY THE 20,000, UH, 20,000 FOOT ARC.
BUT AGAIN, POLICY SEVEN DASH EIGHT SPEAKS DIRECTLY TO THE FACILITY ON WALSH ISLAND PROPER.
MORE SPECIFICALLY, THERE'S A RECOMMENDED ACTION SEVEN E THAT, UM, UH, UH, SUGGESTS WE DESIGNATE ADDITIONAL AREAS FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING THE NASA OPS ISLAND FACILITY.
AND THAT'S WHAT, WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THE APPLICANT IS TRYING TO DO.
UM, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM A FUTURE LAND USE STANDPOINT, AS I HAD MENTIONED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, THE, UH, UH, THE, THE LAND USE RECOMMENDATION IS AG, PARTICULARLY FOR THE, UM, UM, FOR THE, FOR THE DARBY FARM.
BUT AS WE KNOW, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON, UH, ACROSS THE ROAD
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AND, UH, AND ON THE ISLAND ITSELF.BUT HIGHLIGHTING THAT, UM, THAT, UH, WE NEED TO INCREASE THE AVAILABLE INDUSTRIAL LOCATIONS NEEDED FOR BUSINESSES SERVING THE NASS WALLACE ISLAND FACILITY.
UH, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE GOAL, UH, IN ONE RECOMMENDED ACTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO THIS WAS ACTUALLY STATED BACK IN 2018, THIS ISN'T ANYTHING NEW.
NOW WE SWITCH TO RURAL CHARACTER OBJECTIVE EIGHT IN ITS VARIOUS POLICIES.
UM, UH, CONTEMPLATES THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM, WHICH WOULD BE, UM, UH, AGRICULTURE AND OPEN SPACE.
WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD TRY TO ACHIEVE THRIVING AND GROWING SEAFOOD, AG AND FOREST, UH, FORESTRY INDUSTRIES, AND MORE SPECIFICALLY, RECOMMENDED ACTION.
EIGHT DASH I STATES PROMOTE AGRICULTURE AS A KEY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMPONENT IN THE COUNTY.
UH, AND I SHOULD ALSO MENTION THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS JUST CHOCK FULL OF STATEMENTS ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FROM A GROWTH STANDPOINT AND RURAL CHARACTER FROM A PRESERVATION STANDPOINT.
SO, UH, THESE ARE SOME CONSIDERATIONS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL HAVE TO, UH, WILL HAVE TO BE ADVISED OF AS IT, UH, AS IT DELIBERATES THESE TWO APPLICATIONS.
THERE ARE 11 PLANNING ISSUES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ON PAGES, UM, TWO AND THREE, AND, UH, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TWO OF 'EM.
NUMBER ONE IS, IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
IN GENERAL, BETTER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS ARE NEEDED TO EXPAND EXISTING BUSINESSES AND INDUSTRIES, INCLUDING AEROSPACE AND TOURISM, AGRICULTURE, FORESTRY, AND FISHERIES TO PROVIDE MORE JOBS, BETTER WAGES, AND, AND TO INCREASE THE TAX BASE IN TERMS OF THE FISCAL IMPACTS OF GROWTH.
UH, AS RESIDENTIAL GROWTH AND POPULATION EXPAND, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY STARTED TO SEE WITH THROUGH SOME OF OUR APPLICATIONS OVER THE PAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS, UH, THE DEMAND FOR SERVICES WILL EXPAND JOB GROWTH AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MUST KEEP PACE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN A REASONABLE FISCAL BALANCE.
AND THESE TWO STATEMENTS BASICALLY SPEAK TO THE SIZE OF THE TAX BASE AS WELL AS TO THE DIVERSITY AND THE BALANCE OF THE TAX BASE.
UM, AND, AND THAT IS TO REDUCE THE BURDEN ON RESIDENTIAL AND REAL ESTATE TAXES AND TO PROVIDE JOBS AND WAGES TO MIMA CITIZENS.
SO IF WE DO NOT INCREASE THE, THE TAX BASE AND DIVERSIFY THE TAX BASE, THEN, UM, AS, AS CITIZENS EXPECT MORE SERVICES OR AS WE GAIN POPULATION, THERE WILL BE SOME, UH, SOME, UH, UH, SOME DEMANDS ON THE AMOUNT OF SERVICES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING.
THAT WILL CERTAINLY PUT A, UM, UH, UH, A BUDGETARY STRAIN IF WE DON'T KEEP PACE FROM A, FROM A, UM, ECONOMIC GROWTH STANDPOINT.
FINALLY, UH, A GROWTH MANAGEMENT STRATEGY IS LISTED OR, UH, REFERENCED IN THE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND IT MENTIONS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS A KEY STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO PROMOTE COMPATIBLE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND JOB GROWTH, INCLUDING THE AGRICULTURE, SEAFOOD, AND TOURISM INDUSTRIES.
AGAIN, PAGES TWO AND THREE OUT OF THE 2018 COMP PLAN.
I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND PAUSE HERE AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE GENERAL CONCEPTS THAT APPLY TO BOTH CASES.
COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.
SO HERE IS WHERE WE WILL GET INTO THE FIRST CASE OF THE DERBY FARM, REZ TRIPLE 0 1 41, 20 25.
UM, MR. TI, DOES HE WANNA, THE APPLICANT WANNA COME UP AND I I ARE, ARE WE IN PUBLIC HEARING RIGHT NOW? YES.
SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE.
UM, SO THE APPLICANT, UH, WHO IS MR. JOHN TI ON BEHALF OF, UH, DEBBIE BRYAN IN VIRGINIA SPACE.
MR. TI AND MS. BRYAN ARE BOTH HERE TONIGHT, UH, TO, UH, FIELD ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
THE PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, UH, IT IS VIRGINIA SPACE THAT OWNS THE PART, UH, THAT OWNS THE SITE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EIGHT TAX PARCELS AT THE 32,100 BLOCK OF WALLETS ISLAND ROAD IN, UM, INSEL WOMAN.
AND THE MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT IS, UH, TWO WITH SUPERVISOR DE GEORGE'S, WHO IS ALSO IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT.
AND IT'S IN, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIR, UH, WING FIELDS DISTRICT AS WELL.
369 ACRES HAVE BEEN APPLIED, APPROXIMATELY 369 ACRES HAVE BEEN APPLIED FOR REZONING FROM AGRICULTURE TO INDUSTRIAL.
AND THEY HAVE, UH, AND THEY HAVE SUBMITTED FOUR PROFFERS WITH THAT.
ADJACENT ZONING IS AG AND INDUSTRIAL WITH PROFFERS, AND THAT INDUSTRIAL WITH PROFFERS IS THE CURRENT, UH, IS THE, IS THE
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SITE ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH IS THE ROCKET LAB.UM, THE ROCKET LAB, A IT BUILDING FOR, FOR THE NEUTRON, UH, FOR THE NEUTRON ROCKET.
ADJACENT USES ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, VACANT AG AND INDUSTRIAL.
THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SITE.
SO, UM, THIS IS THE 369 ACRES.
THIS PARCEL RIGHT HERE IS WHERE A ROCKET LAB IS, AND THEN THIS CORNER RIGHT HERE IS THE SECURITY GATE TO GET ONTO THE ISLAND.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, THE CAUSEWAY HERE THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING, UH, THERE, THERE'S A BRIDGE THERE THAT'S BEING, UM, UH, UH, REDONE.
AND THEN WE'VE ALSO GOT SOME CONSERVATION AREA DIRECTLY ADJACENT.
THIS IS A MAP OF THE AG AND OF THE, UH, UH, PROPERTIES THAT ARE DESIGNATED AG AND FORESTAL DISTRICT.
SO EVERYTHING THAT'S GREEN WITHIN THIS RED, UH, SHOULD THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, UH, REZONE THE PROPERTY WILL BE, UH, DELETED FROM THE AGON FORESTAL DISTRICT, UH, PROGRAM.
THIS INNER CIRCLE IS 10,000 FEET, AND THIS OUTER CIRCLE IS 20,000 FEET.
AND THAT'S ALL TAKEN FROM THE, UH, UH, FROM WHERE THE LAUNCH PADS ARE.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE, UM, ACTUALLY, UH, I'M, UH, I NEED TO, UH, CORRECT MYSELF.
A PORTION OF THE, UH, OF THE DARBY FARM SITE IS WITHIN THE 10,000 FOOT ARC.
AND THEN, UH, UH, THE BALANCE OF THAT SITE IS ACTUALLY IN THE 20,000 FOOT ARC.
AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO THE, UH, UM, TO THE, UH, UH, SEAFOOD PLANT, UH, A A SMALL PORTION OF THAT IS, IS INCLUDED IN THE 20,000 FOOT ARC.
THIS IS AN INSET OF THE HAZARD ZONES.
SO AGAIN, THIS ORANGE LINE OR THIS ORANGE DASH LINE RIGHT HERE, THIS 10,000, AND THEN WAY UP HERE, HARD TO SEE, BUT THERE IT IS.
THERE ARE A FEW ENVIRONMENTAL CONSTRAINTS ON SITE, UH, A MAXIMUM OF ABOUT 15, UH, 16 ACRES.
AND I WILL BREAK THAT DOWN FOR YOU IN A, IN A FUTURE SLIDE.
BUT THIS IS THE FLOODPLAIN MAP, OR IT'S, IT'S LABELED SFHA, WHICH STANDS FOR SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA OR FLOODPLAIN.
AND THIS IS THE MAIN SITE, THIS IS THE MAIN AREA RIGHT HERE THAT IS, UH, THAT IS IMPACTED BY THAT.
THIS SLIDE IS THE, UH, UH, RESOURCE PROTECTION AREA SLIDE, AND THERE'S A SMALL PORTION, UH, TO THE FAR SOUTH, UH, EAST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY OR OF THE SITE THAT IS DESIGNATED, UH, RPA.
AND, UH, DEVELOPMENT IS RESTRICTED IN THAT AREA AS WELL.
THIS IS A RECENT SURVEY, AND, UH, UH, THIS PORTION OF THE SITE IS THE ORIGINAL 167.
UH, WHEN, WHEN WE FIRST GOT THE REZONING APPLICATION, IT WAS FOR 167 ACRES.
UH, AND THEN WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO WAS TO ADD THIS 86 ACRES, AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL 115 ACRES FOR A TOTAL OF ABOUT 369.
SO, UH, IT, THIS MIRRORS THE AERIAL AND ALL OF THE OTHER MAPS THAT YOU JUST SAW, AND WE HAVE THE, UM, THE, UH, PROFFER STATEMENTS AND THE NARRATIVES, IF WE NEED TO REFER TO THOSE.
VIRGINIA SPACE HAS SUBMITTED FOUR PROFFERS.
THEY'RE GENERALLY DESCRIBED AS FOLLOWS.
UM, THE FIRST PROFFER, THEY, THEY ARE PROFFERING AN ANNUAL TRAINING PROGRAM FOR VOLUNTEER FIRE AND RESCUE COMPANIES, SO THAT IF THERE IS AN INCIDENT ON THE SITE OR IN THAT AREA THAT, UM, THAT, UH, THE NEARBY VOLUNTEER FIRE AND RESCUE COMPANIES WILL KNOW HOW TO RESPOND TO EMERGENCIES.
THAT WOULD BE SPECIFIC TO THE USES, UH, THAT THEY WILL BRING TO US.
THEY ARE PROFFERING IN VARIOUS MANUFACTURING USES, INCLUDING AEROSPACE, MANUFACTURING, PRODUCTION, FABRICATION, AND SUPPORT AND ACCESSORY USES.
SO EVERYTHING FROM CAFETERIAS AND ADMIN BUILDINGS ALL THE WAY UP TO, UM, ALL THE WAY UP TO COMPONENT MANUFACTURING AND ROCKET ASSEMBLY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE COVERED IN PROFFER NUMBER TWO.
PROFFER NUMBER THREE, THEY'RE PROFFERING OUT EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT THAT DOES NOT, UM, THAT WOULD NOT APPLY TO
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THE USES.SO ANYTHING NOT EXPRESSLY PROFFERED, INCLUDING USES BY RIGHT SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UH, WILL BE PROFFERED OUT.
ONE QUESTION ABOUT HOT TEST FIRING.
HOT TEST FIRING IS NOT PROFFERED OUT, AS MR. TI MENTIONED LAST TIME.
THIS SITE WOULD BE THE ABSOLUTE LAST RESORT, AND THE, THE SITE THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE FOR HOT TEST FIRE WOULD BE ON THE ISLAND ITSELF.
THE FOURTH SUR, UH, THE, THE, THE FOURTH PROFFER IS FOR A SURVEY OF THE 86 ACRE TRACTS TWO.
AND IF I GO BACK TO THE, UH, GO BACK TO THE, UM, UH, TO THE SURVEY HERE, THIS IS WHAT'S CONSIDERED TRACK TWO.
SO PARCEL 46, WHICH IS THIS L-SHAPED PARCEL AND PARCEL 47, WHICH IS THIS ONE WOULD ACTUALLY BE, YOU KNOW, WOULD ACTUALLY BE SPLIT BY, UH, BY EXTENDING A SURVEY LINE OUT THIS WAY, AND THAT WE WOULD CONNECT AND THAT, THAT WHAT THAT WOULD DO IS CONNECT ALL THREE OF THESE PARCELS.
SO THIS IS ONE, THIS IS TWO, AND THIS IS THREE.
AND, UH, THE REASON FOR THAT IS TO, UH, IS TO GET THE ACREAGE DOWN FOR INCLUSION IN THE ENTERPRISE ZONE.
RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE ABOUT 397 ACRES THAT WE CAN DESIGNATE FOR THE ENTERPRISE ZONE TODAY.
BUT ONE OF THE RULES THAT DHCD HAS IS THAT IF A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS IN THE ENTERPRISE ZONE, THEN THE WHOLE PROPERTY HAS TO BE IN THE ENTERPRISE ZONE.
AND IF WE INCLUDE ALL OF THIS, WE WOULD EXCEED OUR, UH, OUR, UH, THE AVAILABLE ACREAGE THAT WE HAVE IN RESERVE TO PUT IN THE ENTERPRISE ZONE.
UH, THIS SITE WOULD BE 425 ACRES.
SO THAT IS THE REASON FOR PROFFER.
NUMBER FOUR IS TO SPLIT THIS OUT FROM THE REST OF IT.
NOW, GETTING INTO OTHER CONSIDERATIONS FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT, THESE ARE THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSTRAINTS IN, IN, UH, TABLE FORMAT THAT, UH, THAT YOU SAW ON THE MAP.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 27 ACRES.
UH, FOR FLOODPLAIN WETLANDS AND RPA ARE ABOUT 7.3% OF THE OVERALL SITE.
AS I HAD MENTIONED BEFORE THIS, UH, THE APPLICATION WAS ROUTED TO DIFFERENT AGENCIES.
AND FROM A UTILITY STANDPOINT, THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND ANEC, UH, REVIEWED HEALTH DEPARTMENT INDICATED NO REGULATORY AUTHORITY OVER REZONING.
SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY TECHNICAL COMMENTS.
HOWEVER, THEY INDICATED THAT THE, THAT THE MORE DETAILED SITE PLANS TO FOLLOW, UH, WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ANY WELL AND SEPTIC REGULATIONS, AND THAT THE SYSTEMS WOULD HAVE TO BE DESIGNED FOR THEIR PROPOSED USES.
SO WHEN THEY COME IN WITH THEIR SITE PLANS IS WHEN, UH, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WILL, WILL BE MORE INVOLVED IN THAT REVIEW.
ALSO, IF THEY HAVE TO, UM, IF THEY HAVE TO ESSENTIALLY DRILL A WELL A COMMUNITY WELL FOR ALL OF THE BUILDINGS, THEN THAT WOULD COUNT AS A, UH, AS A PUBLIC WATER SOURCE AND A WATERWORKS.
AND THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH OFFICE OF DRINKING WATER WOULD NEED TO BE CONSULTED ON THAT FROM A POWER STANDPOINT.
ANEC HAD, UH, HAD INDICATED THAT THEIR ROLE IS TO PROVIDE SAFE, RELIABLE SERVICE WHERE AND WHEN IT IS REQUESTED, THERE WERE NO LOAD.
UM, UH, THERE WERE NO, THERE WAS NO LOAD INFORMATION PROVIDED DURING THE, UH, IN, IN THE, IN THE APPLICANT'S NARRATIVE.
SO AMEC IS GOING TO NEED THAT INFORMATION TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY'VE GOT THE CAPACITY TO SERVE TO BEGIN WITH, AND IF SO, ANY REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS NECESSARY TO SERVE THOSE USES.
VO WAS ALSO CONSULTED FROM A TRANSPORTATION STANDPOINT.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY TECHNICAL COMMENTS.
UH, HOWEVER, WHEN THE SITE PLANS COME IN, LIKEWISE, THEY WILL HAVE TO REVIEW THAT FROM A, UM, FROM AN ACCESS STANDPOINT AND FROM, UH, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF REVIEWING, UH, THE CAPACITY OF WALLACES ISLAND ROAD.
THE SITE IS BETWEEN TWO PUBLIC, UH, PUBLICLY OWNED STATE MAINTAINED ROADS BETWEEN WALLOPS ISLAND ROAD AND ARBUCKLE NECK ROAD.
WE EXPECT THE PRIMARY VEHICULAR ACCESS TO BE OFF OF WALL ISLAND ROAD.
AND THE MIDPOINT OF THE WATS ISLAND ROAD FRONTAGE IS ABOUT THREE AND A HALF MILES TO THE LAUNCH PADS.
AND I ONLY MENTION THAT FOR CONTEXT.
THIS IS ABOUT AS CLOSE AS YOU CAN GET TO THE LAUNCH PADS WITHOUT ACTUALLY BEING ON THE ISLAND.
DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY SEA.
RAY PRUITT HAD NO TECHNICAL COMMENTS.
HOWEVER, BECAUSE THERE IS A PROFFERED TRAINING PROGRAM FOR, UH, FOR THE, UH, VOLUNTEER FIRE AND
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RESCUE COMPANIES, UH, THE APPLICANT WILL BE EXPECTED TO COORDINATE THAT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY.THE STAFF HAS ONLY RECEIVED ONE PUBLIC COMMENT, AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY TODAY.
UM, WE RECEIVED ONE PUBLIC COMMENT BY PHONE, AND THEY HAD REQUESTED THAT SPACE TOURISM BE FACTORED INTO ANY FUTURE PLANS.
AND, UH, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS REFERS TO A LAUNCH SPACE, LAUNCH SPECTATORS AND NOT HUMAN SPACE FLIGHT.
SO, UH, THERE ARE, AS FAR AS I KNOW, ONLY TWO FORMAL LOCATIONS FOR VIEWING, AND THEY'RE BOTH ON NASA PROPERTY.
BESIDES THAT, NO OTHER COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED BY THE STAFF ON THIS APPLICATION.
THE STAFF OFFERS SIX FINDINGS, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THAT IT'S IN KEEPING WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT.
UM, NUMBER TWO, WITH REGARDS TO THE GENERAL VICINITY OF THE DARBY FARM, THE COMP PLAN SPECIFICALLY CONTEMPLATES DEVELOPMENT OF THAT AREA, UH, ON WALLACE ISLAND ROAD.
THIRDLY, THE INDUSTRIALIZED ZONING DISTRICT STATEMENT OF INTENT DESCRIBES THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THE ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE PROPOSED USE.
THERE ARE NO SPOT ZONING IMPLICATIONS WITH THIS CASE.
THE PARTNER AGENCIES DID NOT HAVE ANY TECHNICAL, UH, COMMENTS ON THIS, ON THIS CASE.
AND THEN FINALLY, THE PROFFERS ARE LEGALLY SUFFICIENT AT AND ADDRESS IMPACTS OF DEVELOPMENT ARISING FROM THE REZONING ITSELF.
THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE CASE, AND WE'VE GOT TO RENDED MOTION ON THE SCREEN, AND WE ALSO DISTRIBUTED PRINTS OF THE, UH, RECOMMENDED MOTIONS AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
UH, THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND I CAN FIELD ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
AGAIN, WE HAVE MR. TI AND MS. BRYANT, UH, HERE TO, UM, TO REPRESENT AS WELL.
OR DO WE WANNA DO STA UH, DOES MR. CUSAS WANT TO DO A PRESENTATION OR JUST YEAH.
UM, CHAIR, I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS THAT I WOULD LOVE TO READ.
YEAH, 10 MINUTES TIME LIMITS ON ATTORNEYS ARE ALWAYS INTERESTING.
MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, BEFORE WE GO ON, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK, UM, MR. PBIT AND MS. RIDLEY FOR THEIR WONDERFUL WORK ON THIS.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MADAM CHAIR OFFICIALLY THAT THE STAFF REPORT IN ITS ENTIRE TO BE INCORPORATED TO THE MINUTES TONIGHT.
IT USUALLY IS, BUT FOR LEGAL PURPOSES, I WOULD ESTIMATE THAT REQUEST.
UM, AS MR. HAMID SAID, WE DO HAVE MS. BRIAN HERE WHO IS GENERAL COUNSEL OF VIRGINIA SPACE.
I ALSO HAVE JESSICA HARGUS, WHO IS THE PROJECT ADMINISTRATOR FOR VIRGINIA SPACE HERE THIS EVENING.
SO IF I CAN'T ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UM, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE HAD A WORK SESSION TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO.
UM, NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED WITH THE APPLICATION SINCE THEN.
UM, THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO REINFORCE THAT MR. HAMID HAS MENTIONED TONIGHT.
UM, THIS APPLICATION IS ALL ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
VIRGINIA SPACE HAS BEEN A FRIEND TO AKIMA COUNTY OVER THE LAST DECADE, INVESTING WELL OVER A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS INTO THE PROJECT IN NORTHERN AKIMA COUNTY.
AND WHILE WE CAN READ INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HOW WONDERFUL AGRICULTURE IS, AND MR. GALE, I WILL, UH, CONFIRM THAT AS I REPRESENT A LOT OF FARMERS, UH, IN THIS COMMUNITY.
I'M A FIRM BELIEVER IN AGRICULTURE.
THE COMP PLAN DOES CALL FOR BALANCED VIEWS IN ECONOMIC GROWTH.
MR. PBA DID A WONDERFUL JOB OF, UM, REVIEWING A LOT OF THINGS THAT I WAS GONNA BRING UP TONIGHT.
I WOULD REINFORCE A FEW OF THEM FURTHER IN THAT SECTION THAT HE MENTIONED REGARDING WALLOPS.
UM, IN THE COMP PLAN, THERE ARE ALSO SOME, SOME, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE COUNTY, UM, IDENTIFY AND REZONE SUITABLE SITES FOR INDUSTRIAL USES.
IT'S A GENERAL STATEMENT, NOT SPECIFIC TO WALLOPS, BUT IT'S AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT WE ARE SHORT ON INDUSTRIAL AREAS WITHIN OUR COUNTY TO BE ABLE TO MARKET TO FOLKS, TO BE ABLE TO, UM, TO, TO DO INDUSTRIAL, UM, USES.
THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE, OF THE DERBY FARM APPLICATION.
WE NEED TO HAVE AND BE ABLE TO MARKET ACK COUNTY AS BEING OPEN FOR BUSINESS FOR THE AEROSPACE INDUSTRY.
SO THERE'S NOT MUCH MORE TO IT THAN THAT.
THAT IS THE BASIS OF THE APPLICATION.
NOT ONLY IS IT THE ECONOMIC GROWTH THAT BRINGS JOBS WITH RESPECT TO CERTAIN, UM, COMPANIES THAT ARE COMING TO WALLOPS FOR ROCKET LAUNCHES AND THINGS, BUT IT'S THE RIPPLE EFFECT, RIGHT? IT'S ALL OF THE SERVICES AND THINGS THAT COME WITH THAT.
IT'S THE HOTELS, IT'S OUR RESTAURANTS.
IT'S ALL OF THOSE EXTRA THINGS THAT HELP CREATE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT AKIMA COUNTY REALLY NEEDS.
WE CAN ALL ACKNOWLEDGE, AND I BELIEVE THIS BOARD HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB IN ADDRESSING SOME OF OUR HOUSING NEEDS OVER THE LAST YEAR OR TWO.
I WOULD SAY THAT ECONOMIC GROWTH IN JOBS WOULD BE HIGH UP THERE WITH, UM, WITH RESPECT TO HOUSING.
WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO CREATE JOBS FOR OUR FUTURE, FOR THE FUTURE GENERATIONS.
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GOT EDUCATED, WORKED FOR SEVERAL YEARS, BUT I WAS PROUD TO COME BACK.A LOT OF MY CLASSMATES AND A LOT OF PEOPLE MY AGE WERE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT.
THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THAT 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE JOBS OR THE INDUSTRIES TO DO IT.
SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE THIS BOARD TO TAKE THOSE CONSIDERATIONS INTO ACCOUNT.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE AN ADVISORY BOARD.
YOU KNOW THAT YOUR JOB IS TO RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR APPROVAL OR DENIAL.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THE COMP PLAN IS YOUR GUIDING FORCE.
THE COMP PLAN IS PEPPERED THROUGHOUT WITH THIS EXACT PROJECT FOR INDUSTRIAL USES FOR WALLOPS AND FOR THE AEROSPACE INDUSTRY.
I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP TWO OTHER POINTS BEFORE I TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
FIRST OF ALL, AFTER OUR WORK SESSION, I HEARD YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.
IT WAS TIME TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH RESPECT TO OUTREACH.
SO AF THE WEEK A OF THE, UM, WORKFORCE, UM, UH, EXCUSE ME, WORK SESSION, UM, VIRGINIA SPACE, THREW ME, NOTIFIED ALL THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS THROUGH A CERTIFIED MAILING.
WE HELD A COMMUNITY MEETING ON MONDAY NIGHT AT THE KLAN PLANT.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE CROWD TONIGHT THAT ARE HERE THAT I SUSPECT WILL PROBABLY VOICE SOME CONCERNS.
BUT WE DID THAT OUTTA TRANSPARENCY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY WAS AWARE OF WHAT WAS OCCURRING AND TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT AS TO WHAT WAS GOING ON.
SO WE DID TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
IT WAS A VERY CORDIAL CONVERSATION.
UM, SO I DID WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT LAST, I WANNA TALK ABOUT THE USES AT THE SITE.
THE SITE, AS WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE WORK SESSION, I THINK IS PROBABLY BEST THOUGHT OF ABOUT SHORT TERM, KIND OF IMMEDIATE USES NEAR TERM AND LONG TERM.
IT IS HARD TO DIGEST REZONING 300 SOME ACRES AT ONCE THAT CAN BE ADMITTED.
IT'S A BIG CHUNK OF AGRICULTURAL LAND.
BUT I WANT TO STRESS TO YOU THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE IMMEDIACY TODAY, THERE IS ONLY AN IMMEDIACY TODAY TO USE APPROXIMATELY TWO ACRES.
WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES IN THE ROOM TODAY FROM FIREFLY.
UM, WE THANK THEM FOR BEING HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICATION.
THEY ARE THE TENANT THAT IS GOING TO BE USING THE TWO ACRES.
IF THIS BOARD AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DOES, UM, RECOMMEND AND REZONE THIS PROPERTY, THEY'RE EXCITED TO COME HERE.
THEY'RE EXCITED TO BE IN AKIMA COUNTY AND BE A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY.
UM, THAT'S THE NEAR, THAT'S THE IMMEDIACY.
VIRGINIA SPACE HAS SOME PLANS TO USE THE SITE FOR TELEMETRY.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AT THE WORK SESSION.
TELEMETRY BEING THE COMMUNICATION FROM THE GROUND TO THE LAUNCH VEHICLE TO BOIL IT DOWN, AGAIN, SIMPLE ATTORNEY HERE, THERE'S WAY MORE TO IT THAN THAT.
THE IDEA IS TO HAVE MOBILE TELEMETRY USING A PORTION OF THE FARM.
THE COUNTY IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT IN TELLING US THAT WE CANNOT DO THAT ON THE REST OF THE SITE UNLESS WE HAD IT REZONED.
HENCE THE ADDITION TO A LARGE SWATH OF LAND.
THERE ARE NO PLANS TO BUILD OVER OFF OF ARBUCKLE ROAD ANYTIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THAT AMOUNT OF LAND IS GONNA BE DEVELOPED.
THINK WOPS RESEARCH PARK, WE'VE HAD THAT FOR A DECADE OR MORE AND WE'VE ONLY BEEN ABLE TO GET ONE OR TWO BUILDINGS IN THERE.
I WOULD LOVE TO THINK THAT THIS THING IS GONNA BLOW UP AND FILL UP QUICKLY FOR OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HERE.
I THINK YOU COULD PROBABLY TALK TO SOME FOLKS AND THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
THIS IS MORE ABOUT BEING PROACTIVE AND READY IF THE NEXT STEPS COME.
SO AT THIS POINT, THE, THE SHORT TERM IS TWO ACRES.
THE NEAR TERM IS A LITTLE BIT OF TELEMETRY.
THE LONG TERM IS WE HOPE SOME OTHER COMPANIES COME.
WE NEED TO BE READY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SO WHAT HAPPENS BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, WE'RE GONNA KEEP IT IN AGRICULTURE.
THERE'S A LONG TERM LEASE, AGRICULTURAL LEASE THAT HAS BEEN SIGNED WITH RESPECT TO THE REST OF THE FARM.
REMEMBER IT'S OVER 500 ACRES THAT VIRGINIA SPACE BOUGHT.
SO THEY WILL BE USING THEIR, THEY'VE CLEARED TWO ACRES IN HOPES THAT THIS BOARD AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVES.
IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN TWO ACRES WILL COME OUT OF AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTION.
MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR TELEMETRY, BUT THAT'S THE NEAR TERM USE UNLESS WE FIND OTHER FOLKS THAT WANT TO COME.
OTHER THAN THAT, THAT FARM WILL CONTINUE TO BE FARMED.
THAT'S JUST THE 300 ACRES THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
THE REST OF IT IS GOING TO STAY AGRICULTURAL AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE FARMED.
AND AS MR. PAM HAD MENTIONED AT ONE POINT, PART OF THE REASON THAT SUCH A LARGE AREA OF LAND WAS PURCHASED WAS FOR A BUFFER.
AND THAT IS ABSOLUTELY THE TRUTH FOR SECURITY PURPOSE FOR NATIONAL SECURITY, FOR ALL OF THE REASONS THAT YOU CAN THINK OF, INCLUDING NOT HAVING RESIDENTIAL HOUSES NEXT TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MAY OCCUR, WE ARE GONNA LEAVE AND COMMIT TO LEAVING SOME OF THAT IN AN AGRICULTURAL USE.
SO PLEASE KNOW THAT IT IS A LITTLE BIT ODD TO BE REZONING AND ASKING FOR SUCH A LARGE SWATH OF LAND, BUT IS A COMMITMENT FROM VIRGINIA SPACE TO KEEP THOSE TWO USES ACTUALLY COMPATIBLE.
RARE TO HAVE INDUSTRIAL AND AGRICULTURAL BE THE SAME.
THEY'RE SORT OF AT THE END USES, UH, THE END OF THE SPECTRUM OF, UM, INTENSITY OF USES.
BUT IN THIS CASE, I THINK THEY ABSOLUTELY CAN REMAIN COMPATIBLE.
SO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I THINK WITH THAT,
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UM, I THINK MR. PAM DID A GREAT JOB OF EXPLAINING THE REST OF THE APPLICATION.WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS AT THE WORK SESSION.
UM, I STAND READY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS READY TO BRING UP MS. BRIAN OR MS. HARGIS IF WE NEED TO AS WELL.
SERIOUSLY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT APPLICATION.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESERVE YOUR TWO MINUTES? I WOULD.
DOES ANY, UH, COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, IT WAS INTERESTING THAT THE TEST FIRING WAS LEFT OUT OF THE PROFFERS.
CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT? YES, SIR.
WHEN YOU, UM, MR. GALE, WHEN YOU ARE MARKETING TO THE COMMERCIAL AEROSPACE INDUSTRY, HAVING AN AREA THAT IS THAT CLOSE TO THE BASE MAY NEED TO HAVE SOME TEST FIRING AT SOME POINT WAY IN THE FUTURE.
IF WE WERE TO PROFFER THAT OUT COMPLETELY TODAY, THAT MAY DISCOURAGE FOLKS IN THE FUTURE FROM COMING.
NOW, I WILL TELL YOU THAT VIRGINIA SPACE HAS NO, UH, IN, UH, NO DESIRE TO TEST FIRE THERE.
IT'S NOT VIRGINIA SPACE DOING IT ANYWAY.
IT WOULD BE TENANTS THAT WOULD BE COMING TO THE ISLAND OR TO THE, TO THE AREA.
IN ORDER FOR THEM TO DO THAT, THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO THIS BOARD FOR A CONDITIONAL YEAR.
THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO FIRE THAT UP AND DO IT ANYWAY.
SO THE IDEA IS WE DON'T WANNA SAY WE'LL NEVER DO IT 'CAUSE NEVER IS A LONG TIME.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT NEAR THAT IMMEDIACY OR NEAR TERM, DEFINITELY NOT BEING THOUGHT ABOUT AS MR. PAYMAN SAID, THE BEST PLACE IN NASA HAS SAID THIS AS WELL, THAT ON THE ISLAND IS THE BEST PLACE IN VIRGINIA SPACE, HAS COMMITTED TO THAT WITH ITS TENANTS AT THIS TIME.
MS. MARKMAN, I'VE GOT A TWO-PARTER.
UH, FIRST DURING THE WORK SESSION, WE TALKED ABOUT EXPLOSIVES BEING STORED.
ARE THERE GOING TO BE WONDERFUL QUESTION.
SAME ANSWER, RIGHT? REMEMBER WE ARE, WE ARE REZONING TODAY FOR FUTURE TENANTS.
VIRGINIA SPACE IS NOT THE ONE THAT'S GONNA BE DOING THIS ACTIVITY.
IT'S GONNA BE SEEKING WONDERFUL COMPANIES LIKE FIREFLY AND OTHERS TO COME AND DO IT.
IF HAZARDOUS MATERIALS ARE GONNA BE USED OR STORED, THEY AGAIN HAVE TO COME BACK FOR A SPECIAL USE OR CONDITION.
BEFORE YOU, ALRIGHT, SO AT THIS TIME, NO, SIR.
WELL, YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT THE HOT, UH, HOT TEST FIRE.
THE SECOND PART OF IT IS, SOME YEARS AGO, THE WELLS THAT THEY ISLAND THE CHIN
THEY HAD THE TOWN HAD TO BUY NEW LAND, I BELIEVE, AND RE-DRILL WELLS ON A, WILL THERE BE ANY WATER TESTING FOR, UH, THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY OF ATLANTIC? ATLANTIC DOESN'T HAVE PUBLIC WATER, DOES IT? ANGELA? NO, NO.
IT'S A, IT'S A WONDERFUL QUESTION.
I WILL TELL YOU, AS PART OF THE REZONING, IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT.
IF THERE WERE ANY TYPE OF DEQ OR ANY OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE OUT THERE, I'M SURE VIRGINIA SPACE WHERE ITS TENANTS WOULD STEP UP ABSOLUTELY.
UM, I, I'M MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFICITY AS TO WHAT, I'LL LET MR. PAM OBVIOUSLY HAVE SOMETHING TO, UM, I I'M JUST GONNA GO AHEAD AND, AND REITERATE ONE OF THE COMMENTS FROM, FROM THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH THAT IF THEY, UH, YOU KNOW, IF A TENANT COMES IN AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, THEY SUBMIT A SITE PLAN, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WILL BE REVIEWING THAT SITE PLAN OF THEIR, UH, AND, AND IF THAT INVOLVES A COMMUNITY WATER SOURCE FOR SAY, MULTIPLE BUILDINGS ON THAT SITE, THEN THAT WILL HAVE TO PASS THROUGH VIRGINIA, UM, THROUGH VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.
UM, UH, YEAH, I REMEMBER AS I REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION SOME YEARS AGO, AS IT TURNED OUT, IT WAS, UH, UH, POLLUTION FROM THE FIREFIGHTING EQUIPMENT ON THE BASE THAT GOT DOWN IN THE GROUNDWATER AND IT BECAME FOREVER CHEMICALS OR WHATEVER RIGHT.
AND THE GROUNDWATER AND HAD TO DRILL NEW WELLS.
SO I WAS JUST WONDERING, THAT'S A WONDERFUL QUESTION AND I THINK TO FOLLOW UP ON MR. PAM, BUT AGAIN, WE ARE SEEKING A REZONING FOR THE FUTURE.
AND IF THERE'S GONNA BE ANY ACTIVITY THAT TAKES PLACE ON THIS, EVEN IF IT IS BY RIGHT.
WITH THE USES, THAT WOULD BE REZONED SITE PLANS HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE COUNTY.
SO THE COUNTY IS GOING TO HAVE A SAY AGAIN ON WHAT IS USED AS WELL AS VDOT FOR ANY TRAFFIC IMPACT AS WELL AS VDH, AS WELL AS ALL OTHER AGENCIES AS WELL.
I JUST MADAM HERE HAVE A QUESTION.
SO THE TENANTS WILL BE RECEIVING A LEASE OR SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT WHEN THEY ACTUALLY WANT TO OCCUPY THE BUILDING.
SO, UM, YOU SAY THE BUILDING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DARBY FARMS DARBY FARM, THERE ARE NO BUILDINGS THERE AS WELL, CORRECT? YES.
SO WILL THERE BE SOME LITERATURE OR LANGUAGE IN THAT THAT STATES THAT THERE WILL BE EXPLAINING WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY WANT TO DO TEST FIRING OR OH, ABSOLUTELY.
THOSE TYPES OF LEGAL ISSUES WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE,
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IT'S VERY COMMON.UM, IT'S A WONDERFUL QUESTION.
IT'S VERY COMMON IN LEASES, COMMERCIAL LEASES, RESIDENTIAL LEASES, UM, TO ANALYZE WHAT RISKS ARE BEING ACCEPTED BY A TENANT AND A LANDLORD.
AND TO ADDRESS THAT VERY SPECIFICALLY, I CAN PROMISE YOU SOMETHING LIKE EVEN WELLS IS ADDRESSED IN HEAVY DETAIL.
TEST FIRING WOULD BE PAGES AND PAGES OF LAWYER TALK WITHOUT A DOUBT.
I HAVE ONE OTHER, ONE OTHER QUESTION.
UH, OF THE 368.98 ACRES, UH, YOU'RE ONLY CONSIDERING 167 FOR USE OR REZONING? NO, ALL 300.
ALL 300 WERE ASKING FOR 300 AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER.
360 8, THEY, VIRGINIA SPACE PURCHASED OVER 500.
AND AGAIN, A MAJORITY OF THAT THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS REALLY JUST FOR MOBILE TELEMETRY.
THAT WAS WHY THE ADDITIONAL WAS MADE AFTER THE 160 SOME ORIGINAL THAT WAS DONE DOWN, UP BY THE GATE.
THANK YOU MR. ROGERS QUESTION.
SO, SO THE PROPER OUTS, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT ANNEX LOADS, UM, AND WOULD, AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO FACE THE, THE QUESTION OF, OF BATTERY STORAGE.
UM, WOULD THIS INDUSTRIAL, WOULD YOU BE PROFFERING OUT VIRGINIA SPACE FROM BEING ABLE TO RENT OR LEASE PROPERTY TO A BATTERY PLANT? A BATTERY PLANT? UH, MR. TYLER IS NOT WITHIN THE REALM OF THE VIRGINIA SPACE MANUFACTURE THE AEROSPACE SECTION OF, SO THAT WOULD AGAIN, BE A USE THAT IS OUTSIDE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE THIS BOARD FOR AN AMENDMENT OR, OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF USE.
YOU MENTIONED THE, UH, ENTERPRISE ZONE ALLOTMENT OF THREE, THREE HUNDRED AND NINETY SEVEN ACRES.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN RESERVE, WE COULD DESIGNATE ADDITIONAL PROPERTY NOW TO BE IN THE ENTERPRISE ZONE, WE'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS WITH DHTD.
DOES THIS PROJECT USE UP ALL OF OUR, UH, ALLOWABLE ENTERPRISE ZONE ANCHORAGE? NO, SIR.
UM, THE INTENT IS TO EVENTUALLY BRING ALL 300 AND 300 AND, UM, UH, THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY NINE, THREE HUNDRED SIXTY EIGHT ACRES IN, WE'VE GOT 397 ACRES AVAILABLE.
SO WE WOULD STILL HAVE SOME LEFTOVER.
THE REASON FOR THAT COMMENT, AGAIN, IS THAT IF A PORTION OF A, UH, OF, OF A PROPERTY IS IN THE ENTERPRISE ZONE, THEN THE ENTIRE THING'S GOTTA BE IN THE ENTERPRISE ZONE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ALSO SUGGESTED A, A SURVEY PROFFER TO, TO SPLIT OUT THAT 86 ACRES OF THOSE TWO PARCELS THAT THEY WANT TO BE PART OF THIS, UH, OF THIS REZONING.
SO ANY OTHER APPLICANT WOULD NOT HAVE, UH, ACCESS TO ENTERPRISE ZONE ANCHORAGE? IS, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? UM, WHAT'S 3 97 MINUS 360 8, 360 9.
THAT'S, THAT, THAT WHATEVER THAT BALANCE IS, IS WHAT WE WOULD HAVE LEFT OVER FOR, UH, FOR ADDITIONAL ENTERPRISE ZONE DESIGNATION.
WHAT WE'RE ALSO DOING IS WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE CURRENT ENTERPRISE ZONE BOUNDARIES TO DETERMINE IF THERE ARE ANY SAVINGS THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, AS, AS WE GO TO, UM, TO, UH, VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, WHICH ADMINISTERS THE ENTERPRISE ZONE PROGRAM AT THE STATE LEVEL.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN SQUEEZE OUT OF OUR CURRENT BOUNDARIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY GETTING USED, OR IF THERE ARE, IF THERE'S PROPERTY THAT'S DESIGNATED THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR IT TO BE DESIGNATED, SO, SO THAT NUMBER IS ADJUSTABLE.
BUT RIGHT NOW, AGAIN, WE'VE GOT 397 ACRES RIGHT NOW IN RESERVE TO, TO DESIGNATE AS ENTERPRISE ZONE, MOST OF WHICH WE'RE USED BY ONE ENTITY.
A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THAT WOULD BE USED BY, UH, BY ONE ENTITY, VIRGINIA SPACE.
SO IS PART OF THE, UH, I UNDERSTAND 16 ACRES ARE QUESTIONABLE.
AM AM I RIGHT IN, SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, I THOUGHT I HEARD 16 ACRES ARE QUESTIONABLE NOW 27 ACRES.
IS THAT IT'S 27 ACRES? OR AM I IT WAS 27 ACRES.
SO IF I GO TO THESE TWO MAPS HERE? YES.
UM, THIS IS, THIS IS ENCUMBERED BY FLOODPLAIN.
AND THEN THIS DOWN HERE IS ENCUMBERED BY RPA AND THAT'S THE BALANCE OF THE 27 ACRES.
THAT MUST BE THE 16 THAT I, I SAW, I GUESS.
YEAH, IN THE, IN THE BLUE RIGHT, RIGHT UP HERE.
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THAT'S ADDITIONAL ACREAGE DOWN THERE.AND NO MATTER WHO OWNS IT, THERE'S REALLY NOTHING YOU CAN DO WITH ANY OF THAT.
AM I CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
I'M TRYING TO FIND MY, UH, MY TABLE THERE.
SO RPA, WHICH WAS THE, WHICH WAS THE, UM, UH, UH, THE SYMBOL IN RED, IT'S ABOUT 11 ACRES.
SO 16 PLUS 11 TOTAL ENCUMBERED AR UH, AREA IS 27 ACRES.
I GUESS, UM, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ENTERPRISE ZONE IS.
THE ENTERPRISE ZONE IS A, UH, IT'S A, UM, UH, AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM AT THE STATE LEVEL THAT, UM, THERE ARE, THERE ARE LOCAL INCENTIVES THAT WE CAN CHIP IN.
UM, THINGS LIKE, UH, UM, UH, WAIVING FEES, EXPEDITED PLAN REVIEW ARE, ARE THE TWO MAIN ONES THAT MOST LOCALITIES THAT PARTICIPATE IN THE ENTERPRISE ZONE OFFER.
UH, THERE'S VERY LITTLE CASH INCENTIVE AT THE, AT THE, AT THE, UH, AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
BUT THE ENTERPRISE ZONE IS A, UH, IT'S A, IT'S ESSENTIALLY A TRIED AND TRUE, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE.
AND THAT IS, UH, THAT'S ALL OVER THE STATE.
SO, UM, COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE HAZARD ARC CIRCLES? ARE THEY, UM, WHAT VEHICLE ARE THEY FOR AND ARE THEY NASA APPROVED? REALLY NASA APPROVED ARCS, THESE COME FROM NASA AND THE, AND THE HAZARD ARCS DEPEND ON THE SIZE OF THE ROCKET.
SO THE SMALLER THE ROCKET, THE SMALLER THE HAZARD ARC AND THE 20,000 FOOT ONE IS APPROVED BY NASA SAFETY, THAT'S WHERE WE GET THE DATA FROM.
SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF, I JUST DIDN'T SEE IT, BUT THE HOT TEST FIRE IN THE PROFFER STATEMENT, IS IT IN THIS WRITTEN PROFFER STATEMENT OR JUST ON YOUR SLIDES? IT'S JUST ON MY SLIDES.
AND IN YOUR PROFFER STATEMENT ON PAGE TWO, YOU HAVE A DESCRIPTION OF PROPOSED REZONING IS 253.3 ACRES, NOT 368.98 ACRES IN MY PACKET VERSION.
THE NEWER VERSION OF PROPER STATEMENT DIDN'T MAKE ANYTHING IT LOOK LIKE.
OH, THAT SHOULD BE THE, THAT SHOULD BE, SO WE DON'T HAVE THE REAL PROFFERS.
OH NO, THAT'S THE REAL PROFFERS.
IT'S JUST THAT SECTION, THAT PAGE, THIS, THIS PAGE RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS, IS THAT, IS THAT THE ONLY, UH, RED LINE TO THE PROFFERS FOR US, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, BUT THIS PROFFER STATEMENT ACTUALLY INCLUDES THE SURVEY, WHICH WAS SUBMITTED TO US, UM, UH, JUST LAST WEEK.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE WERE DISCUSSING THE SURVEY PROFFER.
SO THIS ACTUALLY REPRESENTS THE MOST, NO, THIS IS THE MOST RECENT ONE.
I WOULD JUST SUBMIT THAT THAT ACTUALLY HAS TO BE CHANGED, CORRECT.
AND YOU HAVE A, UM, A STAFF HAVE A, UM, A DEFINITION FOR MOTOR FUEL FACILITIES.
UM, SO YOUR EMAIL YESTERDAY ASKING WHAT THE DEFINITION OF, UH, NON-RETAIL SALES, NON-RETAIL MOTOR FUEL SALES IS, AND THAT EMAIL HAD ALSO REFERENCED GASOLINE AND DIESEL AS THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.
I WOULD, UH, I WOULD DETERMINE THAT THE NON-RETAIL MOTOR FUEL SALES IS SPECIFICALLY FOR, UH, FOR GASOLINE AND DIESEL AND NOT FOR ANYTHING HAVING TO DEAL WITH THE LAUNCHING OR THE REFUELING OF A ROCKET.
SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS NON-RETAIL, IT WOULD BE WHOLESALE OR DISTRIBUTION.
WELL, THEY PROBABLY BUY THEIRS WHOLESALE AND GET IT DISTRIBUTED.
YOU KNOW, JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION THAT THE APPLICANT KNOWS THAT'S NOT ROCKET FUEL.
ACTUALLY DOESN'T HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING WITH THE IRC INTERNAL REVENUE REVENUE CODE.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BECAUSE OF TAXES.
IT'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FUEL.
IT'S GOT TO DO WITH NON-RETAIL FUEL IS NOT TAXED.
AND RETAIL FUEL IS RIGHT ACCORDING TO THE IRC INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE CODE.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR APPLICANT? OKAY.
WE'RE GONNA OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC TO HAVE COMMENT IF YOU, UM, SIGNED UP.
STATE YOUR NAME AND WHERE YOU LIVE.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I RESIDE AT 3 0 4 0 3 THORNTON ROAD
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AS AWO VIRGINIA.UM, AS MY GOOD FRIEND, MR. TI, UH, AS A MEMBER, UH, OR FORMER MEMBER OF THE AKIMA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, FOUR MINUTES IS GONNA BE A STRAIN FOR ME, BUT I WILL DO MY BEST.
UM, I TOTALLY SUPPORT THE REZONING.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SPECIFICALLY TALK TO ONE ASPECT OF THE MISSION, UH, OF WALLOPS AND, UH, SPACE.
SO FOR MY 20 YEARS AS A MEMBER OF THE MACK COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, ANYTIME I SAW OR WAS APPROACHED BY A MEMBER OF THE VIRGINIA STATE COMMONWEALTH, BE IT THE GOVERNOR, THE SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION, ANY OF THE, UH, DELEGATES OR SENATE MEMBERS, I APPROACH THEM WITH THE IDEA THAT WHY ARE WE NOT EXPLORING ROCKET TOURISM? IT IS A HUGE INDUSTRY TO OUR NEIGHBOR IN THE SOUTH FLORIDA.
IT'S A BIG BUSINESS WE ARE LOSING.
AND AS MR. PAMED AND MY GOOD FRIEND, MR. TIS POINTED OUT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ROCKET TOURISM IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
WE HAVE MAJOR METROPOLITAN AREAS TO THE NORTH, WASHINGTON, BALTIMORE, NEW YORK, PHILADELPHIA, TO THE SOUTH.
WE HAVE OTHER LARGE METROPOLITAN AREAS THAT ARE JUST A THREE AND A HALF TO FOUR HOUR DRIVE TO WALLOPS.
AS A CHILD GROWING UP SCHOOL AGE IN BALTIMORE, I CAN REMEMBER THE TEACHER WHEELING IN A BLACK AND WHITE TV TO WATCH A GEMINI GEMINI LAUNCH.
AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD VENTURE THAT THREE HOUR DRIVE TO COME SEE A ROCKET LAUNCH.
HERE AT WALLOPS, WE'RE LOSING AN OPPORTUNITY.
AND IN ALL THE TIMES THAT I SPOKE TO PEOPLE FROM THE STATE, THEY AGREE WITH IT, BUT WE NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY FOR LAND THAT COULD BE USED AS A VIEWING AREA.
BUT NOW THE STARS, NO PUN INTENDED, HAVE ALIGNED.
AND I BELIEVE WITH 368 ACRES THAT ARE AVAILABLE, WE COULD CARVE OUT A VIEWING AREA THAT COULD BE USED TO PROMOTE ROCKET TOURISM HERE AT WALLOPS ISLAND AND HERE ON THE EASTERN SHORE OF VIRGINIA, IT COULD BE BIG BUSINESS.
WHEN I SAT WHERE YOU ALL SIT AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, ONE OF THE BEST THINGS WE COULD EVER HOPE FOR WAS TOURISM DOLLARS.
WHY? THEY COME, THEY SPEND THEIR MONEY AND THEY GO HOME.
WE DON'T HAVE TO BUILD NEW SCHOOLS, WE DON'T HAVE TO BUILD NEW FIRE STATIONS.
WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE MORE POLICE BECAUSE THEY'RE HERE FOR A DAY TO WATCH A ROCKET LAUNCH.
AND YOU CAN ASK ALL THE PEOPLE ON SHIKO, TEAGUE, WHENEVER A ROCKET GETS POSTPONED, THAT MEANS THEY STAY A COUPLE MORE DAYS SPENDING EVEN MORE MONEY.
WE NEED TO CAPITALIZE ON THIS.
THIS IS BIG BUSINESS DOWN IN FLORIDA.
WE'RE LOSING A REAL OPPORTUNITY HERE.
AND AS I SAY, MY GOOD FRIEND, MR. TI, I KNOW AT ONE OF YOUR WORK SESSIONS TALKED ABOUT ROCKET TOURISM, SPACE TOURISM.
IT WAS UP HERE AS I SAT AND WATCHED, UH, IT WAS MENTIONED.
MY SUGGESTION TO VIRGINIA SPACE IS TO ADD A FIFTH PROFFER THAT WHERE THEY WOULD CARVE OUT A PORTION OF THIS ACREAGE THAT COULD BE USED BY THE COMMONWEALTH.
VIRGINIA SPACE IS A DIVISION OF THE COMMONWEALTH FOR ROCKET TOURISM.
ALL RIGHT, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, TIME AND, UM, MOVE.
UH, I DO HAVE, UH, ONE MORE QUESTION FOR MR. BIN.
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SO DO YOU THINK THAT TEST FIRE PAD WILL BE PUT IN THE PROFFERS BEFORE IT GOES TO THE, UM, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS? WILL IT BE ADDED AT ANY POINT? OR IS THIS WHAT WE'RE GONNA GO WITH? THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO SUBMIT THAT.WHAT I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT IS SAY, UM, THE APPLICANT PROFFERS A TEST FIRE OR YOU, YOU KIND OF LIKE, I'M HAVING TROUBLE EXPLAINING IT, BUT YOU, UH, YOU PRESENTED THAT THEY WANNA TEST FIRE, UH, FACILITY.
WE'VE BEEN PRESENTED THAT WE REZONE IT KNOWING THAT YOU PRESENTED THAT.
AND WHEN HE COMES FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, WE DENY IT.
DO THEY HAVE ANY LEGAL STANDING, ANYTHING TO STAND ON? IF WE DENY THAT AND THEY TAKE IT TO COURT, ARE THEY GONNA ADD IT INTO PROFFERS LATER? THAT WOULD AGAIN, BE STRICTLY UP TO THE APPLICANT.
UM, CAN YOU PROFFER THINGS THAT AREN'T BY RIGHT.
LIKE, LIKE SAY IF HE, LIKE BEFORE, LIKE LAST TIME HE HAD HOT TEST FIRE IN THE PROFFERS ON THE WORK SESSION, IF IT KEPT IT IN THERE, CAN YOU PROFFER ITEMS THAT ARE NOT BY RIGHT IN THE ZONING? I, I WONDER IF WE'RE CONFUSING OUR TWO CASES BECAUSE, UM, HOT TEST FIRING WAS, UH, UM, THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY PROFFERED OUT AT THE, UH, AT THE SEAFOOD PLANT, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY.
RIGHT? I'M TALKING ABOUT DARBY.
UM, THE, UH, I GUESS THE, THE, THE PROCESS FOR APPEAL, THEY'D HAVE TO GO TO CIRCUIT COURT.
IF, IF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DENIED THE REZONING BASED OFF OF THAT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THEY SPECIFICALLY SAID, WELL, WE WANNA SEE A HOT TEST FIRE, UH, IF WE WANT TO SEE THAT PROFFERED OUT AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WAS TO, UH, WAS TO DENY THE REZONING, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE A RECOURSE TO APPEAL THAT.
I THINK I'M, I'M CONFUSED YOU.
SO SAY WE GO THROUGH WITH THE ZONING AND WE ALLOW IT, AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ALLOW IT, AND YOU, AND THEY, UM, THEY PRESENTED HE HOT TEST FIRING.
THEY COME BACK SIX MONTHS FROM NOW WITH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
WELL, WE, WE TOLD YOU WHEN YOU REZONED IT, WE WANT A HOT TEST FIRE, AND WE, UM, WE SAY NO.
DO THEY HAVE A LEGAL LEG TO STAND ON TO? I FEEL LIKE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH LAND FOR TEST FIRE.
I JUST, I WOULD'VE, I DISAGREE.
JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, I, UH, I, THERE'S THIS QUESTION.
I HAD TO GO TOTE AND PICK UP A ICE CREAM CAKE FOR A BIRTHDAY, AND I TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO RIDE ALL THE WAY DOWN WALLOPS ROAD, AND I ALSO RODE ALL THE WAY DOWN ARBUCKLE NECK.
AND I HAD FORGOTTEN I'D BEEN DOWN THERE WHEN I WAS A CHILD TO GET OYSTERS OUTTA ARBUCKLE'S NECK.
AND I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANT TO SAY TO ELON MUSK IN 50 YEARS THAT HE CAN'T HOT TEST FIRE A LASER PROPULSION SYSTEM USING PHOTONS.
WELL, NASA HAS A 10,000 MILE, I MEAN, FOOT EVACUATION CIRCLE, AND NOW YOU GOTTA MOVE THE EVACUATION CIRCLE UP THREE AND A HALF MILES.
AND I, I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T WANT TO PRECLUDE SOME BUSINESS FROM SAYING THEY WANNA COME IN AND DO THAT.
I WOULDN'T WANNA SAY NO RIGHT NOW.
I WOULD WANT 'EM TO COME BACK TO US AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IN THE BOARD OF SUP.
AND THEN I JUST MEANT BY PRESENTING IT HERE AS A HOT TEST FIRE, WE WANNA DO, I WOULD SAY WE DENY IT LATER.
I SAY I, I WOULD SAY I DOUBT WE'D DENY IT, BUT WHO KNOWS? I MEAN, WE'D HAVE TO TAKE THAT UP WHEN IT COMES BEFORE US.
ALL THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I GOT.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT.
NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING, MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
UH, UH, MADAM CHAIR, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF APPLICATION REZ DASH 0 0 0 1 4 1 DASH 2025, THE VIRGINIA SPACE DARBY FARM SITE CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 368.98 ACRES, CONDITIONALLY REZONED THE SITE FROM AGRICULTURAL, A DISTRICT TO AN INDUSTRIAL I DISTRICT WITH THE PROFFER STATEMENT DATED 9 25 20 25, WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE OFFICIAL PROFFER STATEMENT BE CHANGED TO REFLECT ITS ACTUAL NUMBER FROM 2 53, WHICH BECOMES PART OF THE AKIMA COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY MR. GALE.
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THE REZONING OF 0 0 0 1 4 2 DASH 2 0 2 5 OF THE FORMER SEAFOOD PLANT FROM AG INDUSTRIAL WITH PROFFERS.WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH, UH, STAFF.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, LEE HAMID, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS THE SECOND CASE THAT WE'VE GOT TONIGHT, A REZONING OF THE FORMER SEAFOOD PLANT ON, UH, ON, UH, UH, ROUTE 13.
UH, AGAIN, SAME STAKEHOLDERS, UH, MR. JOHN CUSAS ON BEHALF OF, UH, DEBBIE BRYAN, WHO'S HERE IN THE AUDIENCE, UH, AND VIRGINIA SPACE.
VIRGINIA SPACE OWNS THE PROPERTY, AND THAT'S AT 13 249 LANGFORD HIGHWAY.
THIS IS SUPERVISOR WASHINGTON'S DISTRICT.
AND, UM, THIS IS IN COMMISSIONER CONNOR'S DISTRICT.
TOTAL SITE ACREAGE IS ABOUT 55 ACRES FOR BOTH PARCELS.
THE CURRENT ZONING IS AG AND THE FUTURE LAND USE RECOMMENDATION IS AG.
THEY'RE REQUESTING TO ZONE IT FROM AG TO INDUSTRIAL WITH TWO PROFFERS ADJACENT ZONING, AGAIN, UH, AG AND, UH, WELL, IT'S, YEAH, AG AND, UH, UH, RESIDENTIAL.
IT SHOULDN'T SAY INDUSTRIAL PROFFERS.
ADJACENT USE IS OUR SINGLE FAMILY.
THERE'S SOME VACANT RESIDENTIAL, AND THIS SHOULD ACTUALLY SAY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ACROSS THE STREET WITH KEA TANK.
THIS RED OUTLINE INDICATES THE APPROXIMATELY 55 ACRES.
UM, THIS IS KEA TANK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND YOU'VE GOT ROUTE 13 HERE.
FUTURE LAND USE MAP, IT'S ALL DESIGNATED AGRICULTURAL.
AND THEN HERE'S THAT AG AND FORESTAL DISTRICT MAP AGAIN.
SO SMALL PORTION, UM, WELL, MAYBE ABOUT A QUARTER OF THE PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY, UH, IN THE AG AND FORESTAL DISTRICT, WHICH IF REZONED THIS SITE, UH, WOULD BE, THIS SITE WOULD BE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE AG AND FORESTAL DISTRICT, UH, PORTION WOULD BE TAKEN OUTTA THAT PROGRAM.
THE HAZARD ARC MAP, AGAIN, THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE, UM, THE SITE FOR THE CASE THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING NOW.
AND, UM, THERE ARE NO ENVIRONMENTAL CONSTRAINTS ON THIS SITE.
SO WE DISPENSED WITH, UM, WITH, UH, UH, PRODUCING THOSE MAPS.
UH, THESE ARE TWO SURVEYS INDICATING THE TWO PARCELS.
THIS ONE WAS APPROVED EARLIER THIS YEAR, UH, BACK IN MAY, AND I APPROVED THAT AS A SUBDIVISION AGENT.
WHAT THEY DID WAS THAT THEY REMOVED, UH, SO THIS WAS THE ENTIRE PARCEL HERE, AND VIRGINIA SPACE, UH, DID NOT WANT THE LIABILITY OF THE LAGOON.
HERE IS THE OTHER PARCEL THAT CONTAINS THE BUILDING AND SOME SMALLER, SOME SMALLER LAGOONS THAT THE VIRGINIA SPACE STILL CONTROLS.
AND THIS IS JUST THE GENERAL FLOOR PLAN OF, UH, OF THE CURRENT BUILDING AND WHAT THEY PROPOSE TO DO INSIDE SOME SHARED SPACE.
UM, AN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER, SOME BANQUET AND SUPPORT AREAS, EDUCATION CENTER, OBVIOUSLY SOME, UH, SOME OFFICES.
AND, UM, AND THEN THERE IS, UH, SOME LOGISTICS AND STORAGE AREAS IN HERE AS WELL.
AND WE DO HAVE THE, UM, THE NARRATIVE AND THE PROFFER STATEMENT IF WE NEED TO REFER TO THOSE.
SO THE PROFFERS HERE, THEY'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT TWO PROFFERS, UH, AND THEY'RE BASICALLY ABOUT USE.
SO THEY'RE ALMOST, UH, VERBATIM FOR THE OTHER CASE.
BUT, UH, THEY DO WANT TO, UH, THEY WANT TO USE THIS SITE FOR AEROSPACE, MANUFACTURING, PRODUCTION, FABRICATION, AND SUPPORT AND ACCESSORY USES, AND THEY'RE PROFFERING OUT EVERYTHING ELSE, INCLUDING HOT TEST, FIRING.
OTHER CONSIDERATIONS, AS I HAD MENTIONED, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL HAD NO TECHNICAL COMMENTS BECAUSE THERE ARE NO ENVIRONMENTAL CONSTRAINTS.
THERE'S NO FLOODPLAIN, NO RPA, NO WETLANDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THE, UM, THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, AGAIN, NO REGULATORY AUTHORITY OVER REZONINGS.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE EXACT SAME THING THAT WE HAD MENTIONED FOR THE OTHER APPLICATION.
WHEN SITE PLANS COME IN, THEY WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH WELL AND SEPTIC REGS AND ENSURE THAT THOSE SYSTEMS ARE DESIGNED FOR WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY PROPOSE TO DO ON THIS PROPERTY.
AND AGAIN, WITH REGARDS TO ANY COMMUNITY, UH, WATER SOURCES, UH, OR WATERWORKS, THE OFFICE OF DRINKING WATER WILL HAVE TO BE CONSULTED.
A-A-N-E-C NEC HAD MENTIONED THE EXACT SAME THING THAT THEY MENTIONED FOR THE OTHER ONE, THEIR ROLE IS TO PROVIDE SAFE AND RELIABLE SERVICE WHERE AND WHEN REQUESTED AND NO LOAD INFORMATION WAS
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PROVIDED.SO THEY WILL NEED LOAD INFORMATION, DETERMINE REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS, AND THEIR CAPACITY TO SERVE.
THERE WERE TECHNICAL COMMENTS FROM, UH, FROM VDOT S SO VIRGINIA SPACE WILL HAVE TO CONSIDER THOSE TECHNICAL COMMENTS WHEN THEY, UM, WHEN THEY SUBMIT PLANS FOR IMPROVING THE BUILDING OR FOR, UH, IF THEY WANT TO EXPAND THE FOOTPRINT.
A NEW ACCESS FROM ROUTE 13 FOR SOUTHBOUND VEHICLES WOULD REQUIRE A CROSSOVER AND A SOUTHBOUND LEFT TURN LANE.
UM, THE RECOMMENDED LOCATION FOR A TEMPORARY ACCESS WOULD BE 450 FEET NORTH OF THE GROTON TOWN ROAD SIGNAL.
THERE MAY ALSO BE REQUIRED A NORTHBOUND RIGHT TURN LANE IN TAPER U-TURNS MIGHT, MAY NOT BE PERMITTED.
AND THEY HAVE REQUESTED A SCALED CONCEPT DRAWING OF THE PREFERRED LOCATIONS FOR REVIEW BY, UM, BY THE, UH, UH, VDOT ENGINEERS.
THERE WAS NO PROFFER FOR, UM, FOR A TRAINING PLAN, UH, TRAINING PROGRAM FOR, UH, FOR THIS CASE.
PUBLIC SAFETY HAD NO TECHNICAL COMMENTS AS A RESULT FROM A PUBLIC COMMENT STANDPOINT, THE STAFF DID NOT RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS APPLICATION.
THE FINDINGS ARE SIMILAR FROM THE LAST CASE.
THE REQUEST ISN'T KEEPING WITH MULTIPLE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, FACETS OR STATEMENTS IN THE COMP PLAN.
THE INDUSTRIALIZED ZONING DISTRICT DIS UH, THE STATEMENT OF THE INTENT FOR THAT DISTRICT DESCRIBES THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THIS ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE PROPOSED USE.
NO SPOT ZONING IMPLICATIONS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF VDOT.
PARTNER AGENCIES HAD NO TECHNICAL COMMENTS, AND THEIR TECHNICAL COMMENTS WILL BE, UM, WILL BE REVIEWED OR ADDRESSED AT THE, UH, PLAN REVIEW STAGE.
PROFFERS ARE LEGALLY SUFFICIENT PER THE, UH, COUNTY ATTORNEY.
AND SIXTH, ALTHOUGH THE COMP PLAN DOES NOT MENTION THE BEST PRACTICE OF QUOTE UNQUOTE, ADAPTIVE REUSE.
THIS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF TAKING AN EXISTING BUILDING WITH LITTLE PROSPECT AND ADAPTIVELY REUSING IT AND REPURPOSING IT FOR EXPANDING THE AEROSPACE AND DEFENSE CLUSTER FOOTPRINT AND POTENTIALLY PROVIDING SPACE FOR A COMPANY TO LOCATE TO MIMA WHILE IDENTIFYING A PERMANENT LOCATION.
SO, UM, A COUPLE OF OBSERVATIONS HERE.
IT IS INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT THE COMP PLAN DOES NOT ADDRESS ADAPTIVE REUSE, WHICH THE STAFF INTENDS TO ADDRESS WITH THIS UPCOMING, UH, REVIEW AND REVISION OF THE COMP PLAN.
AND OF COURSE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL BE HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THAT.
BUT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT BUILDING HAS BEEN EMPTY FOR QUITE A WHILE, AND IT HAS THE, IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO EITHER BE A WHITE ELEPHANT THAT NOBODY KNOWS WHAT TO DO WITH OR HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE AN ECONOMIC DRIVER SHOULD THIS REZONING BE APPROVED.
THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS SIMILAR.
WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE CASE TO CONDITIONALLY REZONE FROM AG TO INDUSTRIAL, THOSE PARCELS, UM, UH, WITH THE PROFFER STATEMENT.
AND YOU'VE GOT YOUR, UH, RECOMMENDED MOTION ON THE, UH, UH, ON THE SCREEN HERE.
SO THAT CONCLUDES THE STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
AGAIN, I CAN FIELD ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AT THIS TIME.
WE HAVE MR. TI AND, UH, MS. BRIAN AVAILABLE AS WELL.
THIS, MR. CUSTER, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UM, PRESENTATION? YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES? YEAH, MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, I'D LIKE TO STATE, MAKE THE SAME, UM, COMMENT, UH, FOR MR. PAM, BUT, AND MS. RIDLEY ON THIS AS WELL.
UM, THEY WERE A DELIGHT TO WORK WITH AS USUAL.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO STATE, UH, A REQUEST THAT THE STAFF REPORT ALSO BE INCLUDED IN THE MINUTES IN ITS ENTIRETY.
PLEASE BE INCORPORATED THEREIN.
UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO INCORPORATE ALL OF MY COMMENTS FROM THE EARLIER SECTION SESSION ABOUT, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND, AND COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY IN THE, IN THE COUNTY BACK MAC.
I'M NOT GONNA BORE YOU AGAIN WITH A PLEA.
UM, BUT I WILL SAY THAT, UM, AND, AND FORGIVE ME FOR NOT BRINGING THIS UP AT THE WORK SESSION.
UM, MR. GALE AND I ACTUALLY HAVE A HISTORY WITH THIS PROPERTY.
UM, I HAD FORGOTTEN ABOUT IT, UH, UNTIL VERY RECENTLY.
UM, BUT THE HISTORY OF, OF THE SEAFOOD PLANT, AS, AS THIS BOARD IS PROBABLY AWARE, WAS THAT IT WAS A, UM, SEAFOOD PROCESSING PLANT FOR DECADES.
UM, HAD TWO LARGE LAGOONS THAT WERE USED FOR TO TREAT THE WASTEWATER THAT CAME OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE, UH, PLANT.
UM, THE PLANT HAD NUMEROUS TRACTOR TRAILERS COMING IN AND OUT EVERY DAY.
UH, THE POINT OF ME TELLING YOU ALL OF THIS IS THAT THIS, EVEN THOUGH ZONED AGRICULTURE FOR YEARS, THIS WAS AN INDUSTRIAL USE THAT WAS THERE FOR DECADES.
UM, ONCE THE SEAFOOD PROCESSING PLANT STOPPED, AS MR. PAM UH MENTIONED, THIS WAREHOUSES SAT THERE FOR QUITE A WHILE WITH NOT MUCH USE.
UM, IN 2022, IN LATE 2022, I AGAIN FORGOT IN MY OLD AGE THAT I WAS ACTUALLY HIRED BY THE PREVIOUS OWNER, EHH TO COME BACK TO THE COUNTY.
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I, UH, UH, REPRESENTED EHH IN FRONT OF THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS.UM, AND I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE I HAVE THE MINUTES FROM THE MEETING OF DECEMBER 7TH, 2022 WHEN THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, ANOTHER ARM OF THIS COUNTY APPROVED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, AND THIS IS VERBATIM FROM THE MINUTES, A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR WHICH PERMITS LIGHT INDUSTRY IN THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT ON THIS PROPERTY.
SO THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT, THAT THE COUNTY OF AKAMAK HAS TAKEN UP AN ANOTHER INDUSTRIAL USE AT THE KLAN PLANT.
IT WAS, IT WAS APPROVED IN 2022, UH, FOR EXACTLY ALMOST TO THE T EXACTLY WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED IN THIS APPLICATION, WHICH IS OFFICE USE AND WAREHOUSE STORAGE.
SO I WOULD ARGUE THAT THE, ALTHOUGH WE ARE LOOKING FOR INDUSTRIAL USES, THE USES ARE GONNA BE VERY MUCH LESS INTENSIVE THAN WHAT IT HAS BEEN FOR DECADES.
AND IT WILL, UM, ONLY ENHANCE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A VERY LARGE WAREHOUSE THERE.
SO FOR THE NEIGHBORS, UH, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP ON MONDAY NIGHT FOR THE NEIGHBORS.
THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WASTEWATER IN THE LAGOONS.
THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT TRACTOR TRAILERS COMING IN AND OUT, EXCEPT FOR MAYBE MINOR DELIVERIES TO VIRGINIA SPACES OFFICE FOLKS.
THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANY OTHER IN TYPE OF, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS THAT ARE THERE.
UM, I WILL SAY ONE THING THAT I, I WANTED TO MENTION THAT MR. PAM BID DID AS WELL WHEN HE HAD THE MAP OF THE BUILDING UP.
THERE ARE, THERE ARE SOME AREAS IN THERE FOR SOME CONFERENCE CENTERS.
VIRGINIA SPACE INTENDS TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A SCHOOL ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, THEY DO INTEND TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS TO BRING STUDENTS IN TO TEACH THEM ABOUT THE AEROSPACE INDUSTRY.
UM, I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL THING FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL.
UM, AGAIN, I'LL RESERVE THE RIGHT, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERING OF, AGAIN, A VERY IMPORTANT APPLICATION FOR YOU.
ANY OF THIS, UH, BUILDING ALLOCATED FOR SPACE TOURISM? I AM GONNA YIELD TO MS. BRIAN ON THAT ONE.
AND AGAIN, AS, UM, MR. PE JUST SAID, OH, SORRY.
AGAIN, AS MR. PES JUST SAID, WE ARE PLANNING ON, IT'S A VERY LARGE BUILDING IF ANYBODY'S EVER BEEN INSIDE.
SO WE ARE PLANNING ON, UH, AN EDUCATIONAL SPACE.
UM, SIDNEY MCGEE, WHO RUNS OUR EDUCATION SECTION, WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A BIG EDUCATIONAL SPACE IN THERE.
SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT AS WELL AND HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE, UM, THE SCHOOL, UH, ACROSS THE STREET.
AND THEY'RE PRETTY, UH, EXCITED ABOUT THAT TOO.
SO, UH, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOVE TO DO IS EDUCATION AND, UM, HOPEFULLY WE CAN FIND SOME IN THERE AND TOURISM AS WELL.
AND THAT'S, UH, AS YOU SAW IN THE HAZARD ARC THAT'S OUTSIDE OF ALL OF THAT.
SO YOU, YOU PROBABLY FROM THERE YOU COULD SEE REALLY WELL, UM, AS LONG AS, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT A LOT OF TREES IN THE WAY
UM, AND I'LL SAY THAT, UM, I REMEMBER DRIVING BY THE WONDERFUL NASA FACILITY AND PASSING BY THE VISITOR CENTER AND SEEING THE PLANE THAT WAS THERE, THAT WAS, THAT WAS ALWAYS OUT FRONT.
SO I'M SORT OF ENVISIONING NOW A VERY LARGE ROCKET OVER TOP OF THE THING IF THE ZONING FOLKS WILL ALLOW US TO DO THAT.
BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
WE HAVE REGULATIONS ON SIGNAGE.
WILL THERE BE ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY TYPE OF GAMING, UH, PERTAINING TO AEROSPACE FOR THE YOUTH SINCE THE SCHOOL IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET? YOU MENTIONED FOR GAMING, GAMING PERTAINING TO AEROSPACE GAMING AS IN, UH, ELECTRONIC GAMING FOR THEM TO COME AND LEARN MORE ABOUT AEROSPACE, ROBOTICS YEAH.
FROM A PROGRAMMING STANDPOINT OF YIELD TO VIRGINIA SPACE, BUT I SUSPECT THAT THAT'S PROBABLY PART OF, SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT TONIGHT.
WE HAVE, UM, WHAT ARE THOSE CALLED? V VR, HEADSET VR VIRTUAL REALITY.
THE VIRTUAL REALITY HEADSETS, UM, THAT WE HAVE, I THINK NOW PROBABLY EIGHT OF THEM THAT WE BRING TO THE SCHOOLS AND THEY'RE REALLY COOL.
YOU CAN SEE THE WHOLE, UH, YOU KNOW, AND SO ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN GAMING TO GET THE KIDS INVOLVED IN IT, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
UM, BUT I CERTAINLY WILL MENTION THAT TO OUR EDUCATION SPECIALIST.
MR. DO, UH, I I JUST HAVE ONE OTHER, UH, MR. ESEN, UH, ALL OF YOUR DELIBERATIONS, UH, I'M SURE ALL OF THE CONVERSATIONS YOU'VE HAD HAS BEEN POSITIVE OR HAVE THEY NOT? UH, ALL OF THE CONVERSA, THERE HAVE BEEN CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED MM-HMM
MR. ROGERS, UM, IF THERE ARE FOLKS IN THE CROWD THAT HAVE ANY FURTHER CONCERNS AFTER OUR DISCUSSIONS, YEAH.
UM, I ENCOURAGE THEM TO OBVIOUSLY VOICE THEM.
UM, I DID NOT HEAR ANY MAJOR CONCERNS WITH RESPECT TO MAPS.
UM, I'LL TELL YOU THAT WITH ANY
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REZONING THAT I'VE EVER BEEN INVOLVED IN, REZONING SPECIAL USE PERMIT.UM, THERE'S ALWAYS A PLETHORA OF CONCERNS THAT ARE OUT THERE, INCLUDING THE USE TRAFFIC, NIMBY THINGS.
UM, THOSE ARE ALL VALID, OBVIOUSLY, THAT ARE OUT THERE BECAUSE WHEN WE HAVE A CHANGE IN USE, WE HAVE A CHANGE.
AND THERE ARE RAMIFICATIONS TO THAT.
UM, I THINK THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR ANYBODY TO RAISE THOSE.
BUT I WILL SAY THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S BEEN RAISED FROM MY STANDPOINT.
OF COURSE, I'M A LITTLE BIT BIASED.
UM, BUT THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD INDICATE ANYTHING.
OTHERWISE, I THINK THIS PROJECT WOULD BE A PLUS FOR THE EASTERN SHO.
CAN ANY OF THE LAGOONS BE USED IN THE FUTURE AS WETLANDS MITIGATION? BANKS,
UM, I BELIEVE THAT IF ANYBODY WANTED TO USE A LAGOON AS A WETLANDS MITIGATION BANK, THERE'S A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS GREAT.
IS THAT CORRECT, MR. HAM? UM, TWO OF THE LAGOONS ARE CURRENTLY OWNED BY VIRGINIA SPACE.
THEY HAVE BEEN DECOMMISSIONED BY DEQ.
THE REMAINING TWO LARGE, UM, UH, LAGOONS ARE STILL OWNED BY THE FORMER, UH, OWNERS, EHH.
AND THEY'RE WORKING TO, UM, TO HAVE THOSE DECOMMISSIONED AS WELL, UH, WITH NO PLANS AT THE MOMENT FOR A WETLANDS MITIGATION BANK.
BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION.
BY THE USE OF IT BEING A WAREHOUSE, WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL EMPLOYMENT, WHOEVER WE CAN FIND TENANTS FOR, SO VIRGINIA SPACE MAY USE IT FOR A LITTLE BIT OF STORAGE JUST AS THEY ARE.
AS YOU'RE, WELL, YOU, YOU MAY BE AWARE, VIRGINIA SPACE HAS A FACILITY JUST SOUTH OF ARCADIA ON THE, THE BAY SIDE OF ROUTE 13 AS YOU COME SOUTH.
UM, ADDISON, THE ADDISON COMPLEX, I BELIEVE IT'S WHAT IT'S CALLED, ADDISON PARK.
UM, THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE THERE, IT'S THE INTENT TO MOVE THAT THOSE FOLKS TO THE CLAN PLANT THAT'S ONLY A RENTED FACILITY.
AND SO THEY'RE GONNA MOVE THOSE FOLKS THERE.
BUT, UM, TO YOUR POINT, AGAIN, THEY'RE GONNA BE LOOKING FOR TENANTS AS WELL.
IF ANYBODY NEEDS A, THEY HAVE TWO NICE, TWO NICE PROPERTIES.
NOW, UM, OBVIOUSLY I THINK IT'S LOGICAL AND REASONABLE.
I'M, I'M SORT OF SPEAKING FROM THE GUT HERE, BUT I THINK IF YOU THINK THROUGH, IF YOU'RE LOGICAL AND REASONABLE AND YOU'RE MANUFACTURING OR DOING ANYTHING WITH RESPECT TO ROCKET PARTS OR ANYTHING, LIKE, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA WANNA BE CLOSER TO WALLETS.
SO IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE GENERAL STORAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION FOR WAREHOUSE STORAGE.
ARE YOU PLANNING ON, UM, STORING HAZARDOUS MATERIAL? WONDERFUL QUESTION.
UM, AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON THE USER AT THE MOMENT, NO.
IF HAZARDOUS MATERIALS WERE NEEDED, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THROUGH YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL OPEN UP TO PUBLIC AND, UM, THANK YOU.
ANYBODY WANNA COME UP HERE AND SPEAK THAT DIDN'T PUT THEIR NAME ON THE LIST? ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS? I THINK WE COVERED MOST ALL OF IT IN THE WORK SESSION.
MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
UH, MOTION TO RECOMMEND THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF APPLICATION REZ DASH 0 0 1 42 DASH 2 0 2 5.
THE VIRGINIA SPACE SEAFOOD PLANT SITE CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 55.146 ACRES, CONDITIONALLY REZONED THE SITE FROM AGRICULTURAL A DISTRICT TO AN INDUSTRIAL I DISTRICT WITH THE PROPER STATEMENT DATED TEN ONE TEN, UH, 2025, WHICH BECOMES PART OF THE ACK COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE.
ALL OPPOSED? ALL MOVE ON TO OTHER MATTERS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER MATTERS FOR, OR NO, MA'AM.
DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT WHAT, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT? UH, UH, NOT AT THIS TIME.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO STAFF REPORT, SUBDIVISION AGENT REPORT.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY MAJOR, UM, ANY MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED FOR REVIEW.
SO THERE'S NOTHING, UH, TO REPORT THERE FOR THE, UH, ZONING ADMINISTRATOR REPORT, THE VZA HELD SEVEN PUBLIC HEARINGS AT THEIR, UM, AT THEIR MEETING LAST WEEK.
AND, UH, ACTUALLY FOUR OF THOSE CASES WERE DEFERRED, MOST OF THEM HAVING TO DEAL WITH TRAVEL TRAILERS FOR NEXT MONTH ON NOVEMBER THE FIFTH.
THERE'S ONLY ONE, UH, THERE'S ONLY ONE CASE THAT'S ON THE DOCKET SO FAR, AND THAT CASE IS STILL PENDING NEWSPAPER ADVERTISEMENT, BUT THAT'S AN SUP OR SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A TRAVEL TRAILER FOR HABITATION.
THIS CONCLUDES THE, UH, STAFF'S REPORT AND TRY TO FIELD ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ON THESE AT THIS TIME.
NO, UM, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR
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ANYTHING YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT? OKAY.THE NEXT MEETING IS ACTUALLY, I'M SORRY, I, I LEFT.
I, I, I LEFT OFF NUMBER THREE, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, AND THAT'S ME.
SO,
UM, FROM A STAFFING PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE EXTENDED AN OFFER TO A CANDIDATE FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNER POSITION, SO THAT'S VERY EXCITING.
UM, WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THAT PERSON YET.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THE RFP HAS BEEN RELEASED, WE'VE RECEIVED MULTIPLE, UH, QUESTIONS AND THEY'VE BEEN ANSWERED.
THE NEXT STEP IS TO RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES TO THE RFP ITSELF.
ALSO, THE VIRGINIA HOUSING INNOVATION GRANT AND PARSLEY IS BEARING FRUIT WITH TWO PREFABRICATED UNITS HAVING BEEN SET ON, UH, ON MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 29TH.
SO THIS IS A $500,000 GRANT THAT THE STAFF HAD COLLABORATED WITH A, UM, WITH A COMPANY OUT OF NORTHERN VIRGINIA TO GET A $500,000, UH, VIRGINIA HOUSING GRANT.
AND AGAIN, UM, THAT, UH, THOSE TWO UNITS HAVE BEEN SET AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY ANTICIPATING A, UM, A MID-NOVEMBER RIBBON CUTTING.
NOW THAT CONCLUDES THE STAFF SET REPORT, AND I CAN FEEL THAT.
NEXT MEETING IS NOVEMBER 12TH.
UM, YOU HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS? WE CAN ADJOURN.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN.