* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. UM, WELCOME [00:00:01] EVERYBODY TO THE FIRST, UM, [Agricultural and Forestall District Committee Meeting on January 15, 2026.] AG AND FORESTAL DISTRICT COMMITTEE MEETING OF 2026. UM, I AM CJI JONES. I'M A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER FOR ZONING, AND I WILL PRESIDE OVER THE MEETING UNTIL WE ELECT A CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR. UM, SO WE'LL GO TO THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS. SO AGAIN, I AM CINDY JONES, CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, AND SINCE THE AG AND FORESTAL DISTRICT COMMITTEE OFFICER'S TERMS ENDED WITH THEIR LAST MEETING, I'LL PRESIDE OVER THIS MEETING UNTIL A CHAIRPERSON IS ELECTED. UH, WITH THAT SAID, THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE AG AND FORESTAL DISTRICT COMMITTEE CHAIR SLASH VICE CHAIR FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR OF 2026. SO FIRST WE'LL DO, UM, CHAIR NOMINATIONS. MR. JONES, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, NOMINATE MR. 80 KELLY TO BE CHAIRMAN OF THE AG AND FOREST DISTRICT. G YOU, YOU WERE FASTER THAN I WAS. YES. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? OKAY. CAN WE GET A, CAN WE GET A SECOND? ON SECOND? OKAY. AND NOW A VOTE. OKAY. JUST SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NO. ? NO. MAY I ASK WHO SECONDED THAT? MR. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO CONGRATULATIONS MR. KELLY. NO, THAT'S, DID THEY RAISE THE PAY YET? YES. DOUBLED IT. THEY DOUBLED IT DOUBLE. OKAY. SO NOW WE GO ON THAT STRAIGHT. THAT'S MR. EDDIE K'S. NOT MR. TAYLOR. THAT'S MR. KELLY . I GOT IT. IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL RECORDED. WE GOT IT. . OKAY. SO NOW, UH, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ELECTING VICE CHAIR. DO I HAVE ANY NOMINATIONS? YES. I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE MR. JACKIE PHILLIPS FOR, UH, VICE CHAIR. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. AND VOTE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? CONGRATULATIONS MR. PHILLIPS. OKAY. SO, UM, NOW WE'LL JUST MOVE ON WITH THE AGENDA, STARTING WITH THE MINUTES. LAST YEAR'S, LAST MONTH'S MINUTES. UH, LAST WELL, UH, MINUTES FROM 20 22 2. CORRECT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THOSE MINUTES. OKAY. SECOND. OKAY. MOTION'S BEEN MADE AND SECONDED. DO WE GOTTA VOTE? OKAY. ALRIGHT, SO NOW WE GO ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO, UM, THE FIRST, WE HAVE TWO CASES, UH, BOTH ARE REMOVALS FROM AN AG AND FORESTAL DISTRICT. UH, THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, SUZANNE TANKARD. UH, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION. UM, SUZANNE TANKARD IS, UH, THE APPLICANT. SHE IS ALSO, UH, ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY AMONGST SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE. UM, THE TAX MAP NUMBERS FOR THIS ARE 92 DASH A DASH 95 B, UH, 92 DASH A DASH 95 B2B, THREE B FOUR, AND 92 DASH A DASH 95 C. UM, THE ELECTION DISTRICT IS SEVEN. THAT'D BE, UH, MR. JACKIE PHILLIPS. UM, ACREAGE FOR ALL THE PARCELS IS, UH, APPROXIMATELY 35.24 ACRES ZONE RESIDENTIAL AND IN THE PUNGA TIG A FD DISTRICT. UM, THIS IS, THIS IS THE SITE WHICH, UH, ENCOMPASSES THE FIVE PARCELS. UM, FOR US, UH, THE ZONING IS, UH, RESIDENTIAL AND THAT IS SHOWING THAT ALL THE PARCELS ARE IN FACT IN THE AG AND FORESTAL DISTRICT. AND, UM, THIS IS THE REASON WHY THIS REQUEST IS BEING MADE. UM, THE APPLICANT AND THE OWNERS OF THIS PROPERTY ARE TRYING TO SUBDIVIDE AND IN ORDER TO SUBDIVIDE, THEY HAVE TO TAKE, UH, THEY HAVE TO TAKE THE PARCELS OUT OF THE AGA FORESTAL DISTRICT. OKAY, SO THEN WE GO INTO THE, UH, ORDINANCE. THIS IS JUST RIGHT OUTTA THE ORDINANCE. UM, I'LL READ IT FOR THE RECORD. UM, SECTION 15, WITHDRAWAL OF PARCEL FROM A DISTRICT. UH, DURING THE REVIEW PERIOD BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS NOTED IN SECTION EIGHT ABOVE PERIOD OF EXISTENCE REVIEW, A LANDOWNER MAY WITHDRAW HIS LAND FROM THE DISTRICT UNILATERALLY BY FILING WRITTEN NOTICE WITH THE PLAN WITH THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING. OTHERWISE, NO PORTION OF A PARCEL WITHIN A DISTRICT SHALL BE AUTHORIZED FOR WITHDRAWAL, EXCEPT BY LEAVE OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. AT ANY TIME AFTER THE [00:05:01] CREATION OF THE DISTRICT, ANY OWNER OF LAND LYING IN THE DISTRICT MAY FILE WITH THE BOARD A WRITTEN REQUEST WITHDRAWAL ALL OR PART OF SUCH LAND FROM THE DISTRICT, EITHER WITHIN TWO YEARS OF THE DEATH OF THE OWNER OR UPON DEMONSTRATION OF OTHER GOOD AND REASONABLE CAUSE. THE BOARD SHALL PROCESS THE WRITTEN REQUEST IN KEEPING WITH VA CODE, UH, 15.2 DASH 43 14 AND 58.1 DASH 32 37. THE LANDOWNER SEEKING TO WITHDRAW LAND FROM A DISTRICT IF DENIED FAVORABLE ACTION BY THE BOARD, SHALL HAVE AN IMMEDIATE RIGHT OF APPEAL DE NOVA TO THE, UH, CIRCUIT COURT OF AKIMA COUNTY. THE LAND MAY ALSO BE WITHDRAWN FROM THE DISTRICT BY OPERATION OF LAW THROUGH REZONING. UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, SECTION 11 OF THE A FD ORDINANCE. THIS IS SUBDIVISION OF PARCEL JUST SO WE HAVE IT. UM, LANDLINE WITHIN A DISTRICT SHALL NOT BE SUBDIVIDED DURING THE PERIOD AS SUCH DISTRICT EXISTS EXCEPT THAT WITH PRIOR APPROVAL OF THE BOARD LOTS MEANING THE CRITERIA OF VA CODE 15.2 DASH 2244 AND AKIMA COUNTY CODES 78 DASH 12 MAY BE SUBDIVIDED FOR USE BY AN IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER OF THE OWNER OF SUCH LAND. FURTHER LAND MADE BE DIVIDED OR SUBDIVIDED AND SOLD FOR CONTINUED AGRICULTURAL AND FORESTAL USE SO LONG AS IT CONTINUES TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ORDINANCE. OKAY, SO WE'RE JUST GONNA GO RIGHT TO STAFF FINDINGS. UM, IN OUR REVIEW, UH, WE FOUND THAT THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY WISH TO SUBDIVIDE THE PARCEL INTO SEPARATE LOTS TO SELL. UH, THE PARCELS ARE ZONED RESIDENTIAL WHERE SMALLER LOT SIZES ARE ALLOWED AND THE PARCELS ARE IN AN AGRICULTURAL AND FORESTAL DISTRICT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE TAKEN OUT OF THE DISTRICT IN ORDER TO SUBDIVIDE THE PARCELS. UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION, WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REMOVAL FROM THE AG AND FORESTAL DISTRICT, GIVEN THE PROXIMITY TO AN INCORPORATED TOWN AND THE PROPERTY BEING RESIDENTIALLY ZONED. UM, THAT IS THE RECOMMENDED MOTION I CAN ANSWER. I CAN TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. UH, I ALSO HAVE, UM, THE APPLICANT'S HERE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM. I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY. UM, THERE IS A NEED FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY COMING UP AROUND THE COUNTY, UH, IN ANKIN. UH, THIS PROPERTY I THINK MEETS ALL REQUIREMENTS NEEDED TO WITHDRAW IT FROM THE DISTRICT. OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND ALSO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT IS IN MY DISTRICT. UM, I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH IT WHATSOEVER. UH, IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED BEFORE ACTUALLY WITH THE BOARD ON THAT. UH, SO, AND UH, AS LONG AS THEY DON'T MIND, BECAUSE THEY DO WE'LL LOSE THAT, UH, THE, UH, FEE, THEY, THEY'LL THE, UH, BREAK THEY GET A BREAK ON TAXES, RIGHT? IS THAT THEY THEY DO, UH, MR. HARRELL MIGHT BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN THIS BETTER THAN I CAN, BUT, UH, WHEN THE COUNTY WENT TO COUNTYWIDE LAND USE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY BE IN AN A FD DISTRICT IN ORDER TO GET LAND USE. SO THEY MAY STILL GET LAND USE, BUT THERE'S CERTAIN BENEFITS OF BEING IN THE A FD TO WHERE, UM, LIKE, UH, CONTIGUOUS PARCELS FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE IN AN AG FORESTAL DISTRICT, THE PARCELS WOULDN'T HAVE TO TOUCH THE FOREGOING THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THAT PARCEL'S ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE DISTRICT. UM, IT'S NOT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DISTRICT. IT'S, YEAH. SO IT'S, IT'S ON THE EDGE OF, IT'S ON THE EDGE OF THE TOWN OF, UH, C**K UH, THIS AS, AS A LITTLE BIT OF BACKSTORY, THIS WAS PART OF THE, UH, UH, WHERE THE TOWN I BELIEVE WAS TRYING TO TAKE OVER, CORRECT THIS PIECE. THAT'S RIGHT. UM, SO THIS WAS ALSO PART OF THAT. UM, BUT IT IS IN VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY TO, UH, THE TOWN OF C**K AND AGAIN, IS ALLY ZONED WHERE SMALLER LOT SIZES ARE ALLOWED. UM, IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE MS. TANKER SURE, SURE. COME, COME TO THE PODIUM IF YOU MIND. YEAH. JUST SO WE CAN HAVE YOUR, THERE YOU GO. WHERE THE RED AREA IS DEFINED TO THE LEFT OF THAT, WE IS IN THE TOWN OF AN C**K AND THAT'S ALL PART OF THE SAME FARM. OKAY. OWEN. AN C**K 1959 . IS THE WHOLE PARCEL ZONE RESIDENTIAL OR JUST YES. EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE IN THIS, UH, ORANGEISH ORANGEISH BROWN IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL. OKAY. YEAH, I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT. SO YOU WANT, YOU WANNA GO BACK TO THAT MOTION? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. UH, MISS, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU MAY, IF I MAY, I, UH, MAKE A MOTION THAT I COME OUT COUNTY I, THE FORESTVILLE DISTRICT RECOMMEND, UH, THE REMOVAL OF PARTIALS 92 A 95 B 92, A 95 B 2 92, A 95 B THREE, AND 92 A 95 B FOUR, [00:10:01] AND 92 A 95 C FROM THE PUNKT AGRICULTURE AND FORESTAL DISTRICT. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND. WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED IT, SO WE'LL VOTE ALL THE FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION CARRY. OKAY. THAT WAS THAT. SO THAT'S THE END OF THAT. AND NOW WE'LL GO TO, UM, THE SECOND, UH, CASE THAT WE HAVE. AND THIS IS, UH, JUSTIN ANIS ON BEHALF OF VAN KERA FARMS INC. AND THIS IS ALSO REMOVAL FROM A DISTRICT. UH, JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND. AND THE APPLICANT IS JUSTIN ANIS. THE, THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE, UH, AN LLC. SO IT'S, UH, OR AN INCORPORATED, WHICH IS VAN KERAN FARMS INC. UH, TAX MAPS 85 DASH A DASH 60 AND 85 DASH A DASH 52. UH, THE ELECTION DISTRICT IS SIX ROBERT CROCKETT ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 35 ACRES. AND THIS HAS, UH, TWO ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS. IT'S, UH, GENERAL BUSINESS AND AGRICULTURAL. UM, AND THE A FD DISTRICT IS TALY. UM, THIS IS, UH, THE MAP, UM, 85 A 60 IS HERE, UM, 85 A 52 IS ACTUALLY THIS, THIS SMALL SECTION HERE. UM, SO IT IS IN AN AGA FORESTAL DISTRICT. AND, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, UM, THE FIRST, THE FIRST 300 FEET OR SO IS ACTUALLY ZONE GENERAL BUSINESS. AND THEN YOU HAVE AGRICULTURAL IN THE BACK. UM, SO AGAIN, THE, THE A FD ORDINANCE CONSIDERATIONS, UM, IN ORDER TO, TO SPEED US UP, WE'RE JUST GONNA TALK ABOUT SECTION 15, WITHDRAWAL OF PARCEL FROM A DISTRICT. HANDLES, HANDLES THE PROCESS. AND, UH, SECTION 11 DEALS WITH SUBDIVISION OF A PARCEL. UH, SO WE'LL GO RIGHT INTO STAFF FINDINGS. UH, THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY WISH TO SUBDIVIDE THE PARCEL INTO SEPARATE LOTS, UH, TO POTENTIALLY SELL. UM, THE PARCELS ARE ZONED GENERAL BUSINESS AND AGRICULTURAL AND THE PARCELS ARE IN AN AG AND FORESTAL DISTRICT AND WOULD NEED TO BE TAKEN OUTTA THE DISTRICT IN ORDER TO SUBDIVIDE. UM, I SAY HERE, STAFF IS NEUTRAL ON THE PROPOSAL. UM, GIVEN THAT THE FRONT 300 FEET IS ZONED GENERAL BUSINESS WHERE, WHERE THE COUNTY WOULD LIKE TO SEE WELL BUSINESSES BE, UM, THIS WOULD IMPEDE THEIR ABILITY TO DO THAT IF THEY WANTED TO DO IT. SO STAFF ACTUALLY WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF, OF THIS, UH, REQUEST FOR REMOVAL. THAT'S THE, UH, MOTION. UM, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALSO, MR. HANNIS IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM. YEAH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I SPOKE TO A SUPERVISOR, UH, CROCKETT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. UM, MR. MILLS SPOKE ABOUT IT A WHILE AGO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE NEED IS MORE RESIDENTIAL HOUSING, OF COURSE, ON THE SHORE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE SEE WHENEVER WE TALK TO ANY OF THESE BIG BUSINESSES. SO HE WAS DEFINITELY, HE WAS DEFINITELY FAR TAKING THIS ACTION. SO JUST TO, OKAY. WELL I JUST HAVE ONE GENERAL COMMENT. I, MY SON FARMS AND I FARM AND I JUST HATE TO KEEP SEEING FARM LAND BEING TAKEN OUT OF PRODUCTION, GOOD FARM LAND, BUT THAT'S JUST THIS AREA WHERE THESE, ALL THIS LAND IS BEING TAKEN OUT. I GET IT. I GET IT. THIS IS ON FAIRGROUNDS ROAD AND WE DO HAVE, UM, YES, CHRIS AUGH IS, UM, 400 AND SOMETHING UNIT, UH, APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S GOING JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THIS. SO THERE'S ALREADYS ALREADY THINGS ARE A MOTION. YEAH, I GET IT. I JUST HATE TO SEE IT. RIGHT, I UNDERSTAND. WELL, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WHY WE'RE HERE IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WHY WE'RE HERE. AND LIKE I SAID, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE THIS, UH, TAX TO BREAK, FARMERS CAN'T FARM IT. PEOPLE THAT OWN THE PROPERTY CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY TAXES ON IT WITH THE RENT THEY'RE GETTING, BUT BECAUSE OF THE TAX BREAK, THEY CAN AFFORD TO GIVE IT TO THE FARMER AT A DECENT PRICE WHERE THEY CAN MAKE A LIVING. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. AND WE WANT, LIKE I SAID, OUR BIGGEST THING IN THIS ORGANIZATION IS TO KEEP GAGGING FOREST DISTRICT ALIVE AND GOING WELL, UH, TO KEEP, IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT, FARMERS CAN'T MAKE IT. AND THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THE PROPERTY THAT RENT THE FARMER CAN'T AFFORD GIVE IT TO YOU AT A DECENT PERAL RATE IF THEY'RE HAVING TO PAY THE TOP DOLLAR TAXES. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO THIS IS, LIKE I SAY, AGREE WITH YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY. UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO KEEP IT GOING, UM, SO THAT THE FARMERS CAN AFFORD TO RENT LAND AND, AND, AND EVEN [00:15:01] THEIR OWN PROPERTY THAT'S NOT TAXED OUT OF THE, UH, WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU'VE GOTTA SELL IT. THAT'S, THAT'S THE WHOLE THING. AND PEOPLE STILL GONNA WANT TO DO, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE TIME COMES COMES AND THEY GET OLDER, THEY NEED MONEY. , THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN. AND I WISHED IT DIDN'T, BUT IT'S, IT'S, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? YEAH, SURE. SO THE, MOST OF THE FARMLAND WILL STAY INTACT. IT'S JUST, UH, THERE WAS A HOME SITE AND IN 2008 THE TRAILER WAS MOVED OFF AND TO PUT ANYTHING BACK, IT'S A, AFTER TWO YEARS, I THINK IT WAS. YEAH, YOU HAVE TO, IT'S A CHANGE IN USE OF THE LAND. SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE MAIN REASON. THERE'S ALREADY A WELL AND SEPTIC THERE IS JUST, YOU KNOW, TO PUT A HOUSE ON THAT, LIKE ACRE AND A HALF, THE, THE FARM WOULDN'T BE CHANGING THAT FROM FARMING. AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I CAN, I CAN EXPLAIN THAT FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE. THERE'S A, THERE'S A TWO YEAR WHEN YOU CEASES, LET'S SAY YOU HAVE A SINGLE WIDE AND YOU MOVE IT OFF THE PROPERTY, YOU HAVE A TWO YEAR PERIOD TO WHERE YOU CAN, IT'S CALLED RESTORATION REPLACEMENT, WHERE YOU CAN REPLACE THAT IN THE SAME FOOTPRINT, UH, BY RIGHT. BASICALLY AFTER THAT TWO YEAR PERIOD, YOU LOSE THAT, YOU LOSE THAT ABILITY. AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT LIKE IT'S A NEW BUILD. SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASON FOR THAT. IT STILL FORM. SO JUST WANTS TO COOK BATTERY YOU HAD BEFORE THE TWO YEARS IS ELAPSED. SO THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD THING. THANK YOU FOR THAT ATION. YEAH. YEAH. THANKS FOR THAT. YES. OKAY, WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT THE, I MAKE, UH, AG AND FORESTAL DISTRICT, UH, RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REMOVAL OF THESE PARCELS. 85 A 60 85, 8 52 FROM THE TALY AG AND FORESTVILLE DISTRICT MOTION BEEN MADE. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL TAKE A SECOND. UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED. WE'LL TALK ABOUT NEXT SESSION. OKAY. SO, UM, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE THINGS FROM AN ADMINISTRATIVE STANDPOINT. UM, FIRST OFF, UM, YOU HAVE, UH, REAL ESTATE DISCLOSURE FORMS IN FRONT OF YOU. UM, THOSE, IF YOU CAN, UH, WE NEED THOSE BACK, I BELIEVE BY FEBRUARY 1ST, SECOND, SECOND MONDAY. SO IF YOU COULD FILL THOSE OUT AS BEST YOU CAN AND GIVE 'EM BACK TO US SO WE HAVE 'EM, THAT'D BE GREAT. AND OKAY. AND MINE COVERS THAT. 'CAUSE I'VE ALREADY DONE MINE FOR EVERY BOARD, SO. RIGHT. OKAY. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE TINA AND I WILL CROSS CHECK EVERYONE. PERFECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DOES JEAN, DOES MR. TAYLOR'S BECAUSE WE DID WELL, I'VE GOT BOTH. I'VE DONE BOTH. YOU GOT BOTH BECAUSE THEY'RE DIFFERENT FOR SOME REASON. OKAY. WHAT ABOUT IF YOU HAVE PART OWNERSHIP? LIKE SOME OF OUR LAND IS OWNED, FOUR DIFFERENT PEOPLE. YEAH. I, I WOULD SAY OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, GO AHEAD AND PUT IT ON THERE. YEAH, I'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED MINE, SO WE'LL SEND A COPY. OKAY. UM, AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, A COUPLE THINGS. SOME LOOKS AHEAD. UM, WE ARE TAKING A LOOK AT THE A FD ORDINANCE. UM, IT HASN'T BEEN REALLY GONE THROUGH SINCE, FROM WHAT I COULD TELL ABOUT 2007. UM, LET ME, UH, GET ON THAT ONE. WE, WE WERE GOING THROUGH IT, UH, DURING COVID. OKAY. BECAUSE WE WERE HAVING PROBLEMS GETTING, UM, MEMBERS TO COME DURING COVID AND YOU GET THAT RIGHT. AFRAID TO GO CATCH IT. AND I, I TOTALLY, THEY GET THAT. UH, I THINK THAT THE BOARD SUPERVISORS JUST TOTALLY REDONE THE, JUST REDONE THE DISTRICTS THAT DAY. I THINK THEY JUST REDONE 'EM. ALL RIGHT. I IS IT, AM I, AM I CORRECTING THAT? IT'S, YOU, YOU ARE CORRECTING THAT FOR THE DISTRICTS, BUT THERE'S CERTAIN, THERE'S CERTAIN SITUATIONS THAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO, UM, THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BUTTON UP IN TERMS OF, LET'S SAY SOMEBODY WANTS TO ADD AN ADDITION ONTO THEIR HOUSE AND THEY'RE IN AG FOREST DISTRICT, TECHNICALLY THEY HAVE TO COME IN HERE AND GET APPROVAL FOR THAT. MM-HMM . UM, LET'S SAY WE JUST, WE ACTUALLY JUST HAD THAT CORRECT . SO LET'S SAY YOU HAVE A HUNDRED ACRE FARM THAT YOU OWN AND THAT YOU PLOW AND YOU DEAL WITH AND YOU WANT TO PUT A HOUSE THERE BECAUSE IT'S IN AN A FD, YOU WOULD HAVE TO COME IN HERE AND GET APPROVAL FOR THAT. I MEAN, THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY SAY THEY'RE COMMON SENSE THINGS BECAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THE RAMIFICATIONS, BUT JUST SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. AND JUST AS A, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS WE MIGHT BE BRINGING YOU [00:20:01] SOMETHING TO LOOK AT AS FAR AS AMENDING THE A FD ORDINANCE. THIS IS GONNA SOUND STUPID, LIKE I SAID, BUT EVEN LIKE YOU SEEN A WHILE AGO, I THINK IT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS CORRECT. OUT OF IT. AND IN REAL WORLD, THE FAMILY SUBDIVISION AND YOU BUILD ON IT'S LOOK THE SAME, I BELIEVE SAME THING. I BELIEVE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS ARE ALREADY, YEAH. I BELIEVE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS, IT TALKS ABOUT 78 DASH 12 IS FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS. UM, SO I, I I THINK IT'S COVERED HERE, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL DEFINITELY LOOK AT IT JUST TO MAKE DOUBLY SURE IT'S COVERED. UM, 'CAUSE IT ALSO SAYS WHERE IT CAN ONLY BE SUBDIVIDED FOR MORE INTENSE AGRICULTURAL USE. UM, I WAS GONNA SAY, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR USE? MAY BE SUBDIVIDED FOR USE. THAT COULD MEAN ANYTHING. YEAH. AGRICULTURAL FORESTAL USE. I MEAN, THAT, THAT COULD BE THAT IT'S VERY GENERAL. YEAH. AND I, I, I THINK THAT'S BY DESIGN, BUT IT, IT CREATES AN ISSUE FOR STAFF AS TO WHERE, WHERE THAT LINE IS. UM, SO WE'RE, WE WANT TO TRY AND OVER THE NEXT FOUR TO SIX MONTHS TRY AND BUTTON UP SOME OF THIS SO THAT WE HAVE A CLEAR, A CLEAR SET OF STANDARDS SO THAT WE CAN, WE CAN ADMINISTER THIS BETTER BEFORE COMING TO YOU GUYS FOR A DECISION. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF A, A FOUR TO SIX MONTH KIND OF LOOK AHEAD. UM, ALSO WE HAVE, UH, DRAFT MEETING SCHEDULES IN YOUR, UM, THOSE ARE GONNA BE, UH, THE MEETING DATES FOR 2026 IF YOU GUYS WANNA TAKE A LOOK AT 'EM AND TELL ME IF THOSE, THOSE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC COMING UP ON THAT? I HAVE, AS FAR AS I KNOW, I HAVE ONE CASE FOR FEBRUARY, IT'S REMOVAL FROM A DISTRICT JUST LIKE THIS. THEY WANT TO SUBDIVIDE. I HAVE A, I HAVE A PLAT FOR THAT ONE AND IT IS BEING HELD UP BECAUSE OF THIS. UM, I'M PROBABLY GONNA ALSO HAVE THE SAME THING FOR MARCH. I HAVE ONE PARCEL, UM, THAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM A DISTRICT. CAN, CAN THEY BE COMBINED INTO ONE MEETING OR NOT? IT WOULD, IT, I WOULD HAVE TO JUMP ON IT. I COULD TRY TO , I COULD, I COULD TRY TO, UM, I COULD, I COULD TRY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. IS THAT BECAUSE OF NOTIFICATIONS? I GOTTA GO OUT? THERE'S A, THERE'S, THERE'S A TIMING. THERE'S A TIMING THING WITH, WITH AFDS. IT THE, IT'S NOT LIKE A PLANNING COMMISSION OR A BZA OR A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. WE DON'T, AFTER TALKING WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, WE DON'T HAVE TO LIKE SEND APOS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. OKAY. WE STILL, WE DO. AND IT'S VERY UNCLEAR AS TO WHETHER WE SH WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE IN THE PAPER. WE DO ADVERTISE IN THE PAPER JUST BECAUSE IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THE RIGHT THING TO DO. SURE. UM, SO I WOULD AT LEAST NEED TO KNOW BEFORE THAT AD, BEFORE THE AD IN THE PAPER GOES OUT. UM, BUT I CAN TRY, I CAN TRY TO GET THOSE BOTH TO FEBRUARY. SO IS THE THIRD THURSDAY AT 10 O'CLOCK, RIGHT? UH, YES. THERE'S A . MM-HMM. DO DO WE HAVE ANY UP FOR REVIEW THIS YEAR? THE REVIEW AS, AS WE KNOW, WE, THE REVIEWS HAVE KIND OF GONE BY THE WAYSIDE. OKAY. UM, I HAVE ALSO BEEN TOLD, AND MAY MR. WATSON MIGHT BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN THIS BETTER THAN I CAN, BUT WE, WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT IN, IN THE EVENT THAT NO ACTION IS TAKEN BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, THEY'RE ALREADY, THEY'RE AUTOMATICALLY RENEWED. THAT IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD. UM, AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE GOING BY AS FAR AS DOING THE RENEWALS OF THE DISTRICT WALL. A WORTHWHILE ENDEAVOR, UH, STAFFING. THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT OF LETTERS THAT HAVE TO GO OUT AND THAT'S A LOT OF TIME. AND WE, WE ARE VERY STRETCHED FOR PEOPLE AT, AT THE MOMENT. WHAT WAS THE YEARS THAT OUR WAS THE YEAR? SO, SO I THINK THEY WERE FOUR, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS FOUR YEARS. BETWEEN 10 I THOUGHT WENT 10. YEAH. 10. I IT DIDN'T LOOK, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. SOME WENT TO 10. I DON'T THINK THEY ALL WENT TO 10, BUT I, I'D HAVE TO CHECK ON THAT. YOU MIGHT WANNA CHECK TO SEE WHAT THAT, WHEN D WHEN DID, UH, SUPERVISORS, UM, VOTED TO DO IT? THAT WAS, I BELIEVE THAT WAS AROUND COVID. IT WAS. AND, AND WHEN THEY DID THAT, WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS, WHEN DID THEY VOTE ON FOR THE, FOR THE, TO JUST APPROVE ALL THEY APPROVED ALL OF THEM AND TO THAT, YOU KNOW. AND DID THEY, DID THEY SAY WHAT, HOW MANY YEARS IT WAS? YEAH, I, I CAN CHECK ON, MIGHT GET MINUTES ON THAT MEETING TO FIND OUT WHAT, WHAT THAT WAS. YEAH, I, I CAN CHECK ON THAT AND HAVE SOME FOR YOU NEXT MONTH. UH, LET'S SEE IF I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. BUT THIS SCHEDULE IS JUST TENTATIVE IF WE HAVE SOMETHING TO, IF, IF WE NEED TO MOVE A DATE AROUND, WE CAN, IT MIGHT END UP NOT BEING ON A THURSDAY. OUR OUR WEEKS ARE FAIRLY [00:25:01] FULL BETWEEN, UM, NO, WHAT I MEAN IS WE, WE WON'T MEET IF THERE'S NOTHING TO YEAH, IF THERE'S NO, I WILL LET YOU KNOW FAR AHEAD OF TIME IF WE DON'T HAVE TO MEET. YEAH, I'LL, I'LL PROBABLY LET YOU KNOW AT THIS MEETING IF WE DON'T HAVE TO MEET THE NEXT MONTH. UM, THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAVE IS I'M GLAD EVERYBODY GOT GOT THEIR PACKETS. THE WAY THAT THE POST OFFICE IS . I'M SURE SOME OF YOU GUYS PROBABLY GOT IT THE DAY BEFORE. MM-HMM . SO WHAT WE DO FOR THE OTHER BOARDS IS WE CAN EMAIL THEM TO YOU, WHICH I KNOW SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE. OR WE CAN HAND DELIVER 'EM TO YOU. WE DO THAT FOR BZA, WE DO THAT FOR THE WETLANDS BOARD. UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO. I WOULD NEED YOUR HOME ADDRESSES. SO AFTER THIS MEETING, IF YOU JUST WANNA SEE ME AND GIMME YOUR HOME ADDRESS, I COULD MAKE SURE THAT THOSE GET HAND DELIVERED A WEEK BEFORE SO YOU HAVE 'EM WITH ENOUGH TIME TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT 'EM. UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'M HERE. IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS TO BE BROUGHT FOR THE BOARD? I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN. YES. MOTION TO ADJOURN. MR. CHAIRMAN. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND. AYE, I CAN DO THAT. MEETINGS ADJOURNED. OKAY. THERE WE GO. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.