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BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS.[Board of Zoning Appeals on August 5, 2026.]
OUR AUGUST 5TH MEETING TO ORDER.I'M GONNA ASK IF, UH, THE OTHER MEMBERS WHO ARE PRESENT WILL, UH, INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.
UH, WE DO HAVE TWO MEMBERS ABSENT, BUT WE DO HAVE, UH, QUORUM.
UH, IT TAKES THREE FOR US TO HAVE A QUORUM.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE WHO WILL BE VOTING OR PARTICIPATING REMOTELY.
UH, WE, AS WE LOOK AT OUR AGENDA, UM, THAT HAS BEEN PRINTED, WE DO HAVE A CORRECTION TO THE AGENDA, UH, SUSE DASH 0 0 0 4 1 7 DASH 2022.
THAT WILL, UH, MOVE TO THE TOP OF THE AGENDA RATHER THAN THE BOTTOM.
UH, WITH THAT CORRECTION IN MIND, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA, UH, AS PRINTED MOVE TO ACCEPT AS AMENDED.
BEEN PROPERLY MOVED IN SECOND.
AND THE END AGENDA IS APPROVED.
I THINK ANOTHER THING IS THAT, UH, ALL THREE OF US HAVE TO HAVE TO VOTE, RIGHT? YES.
UH, IT, IT TAKES THREE PERSONS TO GET, UH, AN ITEM APPROVED.
UH, AND WE DO HAVE THREE, WHICH MEANS WE HAVE A QUORUM.
AND SO EVERYONE WILL BE VOTING TODAY.
UH, HAS EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES? I, OKAY.
WE'VE GOT A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MEETINGS.
AT THIS POINT, WE'LL MOVE TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING A CYNTHIA, UH, AND, UH, MR. PAM WILL BE, UH, LEADING US IN THAT DISCUSSION.
SO, UH, THIS WAS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST, BUT NOW IT'S AT THE TOP.
THIS IS, UH, SUSE 0 0 0 4 1 7 20 22.
THIS IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT VIOLATION HEARING, UH, THIS IS SOME BACKGROUND.
UH, THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE, UH, IT'S AN LLC TO HAITIAN BROTHERS, LLC, LOCATIONS 1 9 4 0 5 LANGFORD HIGHWAY, OR TAX MAP NUMBER 79 DASH A DASH 17 A ELECTION DISTRICT'S DISTRICT FIVE ACREAGE IS 1.79 ACRES ZONE AGRICULTURAL FUTURE LAND USE.
RECOMMENDATION IS RESIDENTIAL AREA.
UH, CURRENT PROPOSED USE IS A, AN AUTOMOBILE REPAIR SHOP.
ADJACENT ZONINGS ARE AG AND RESIDENTIAL.
AND ADJACENT USES ARE A COMBINATION OF VACANT LAND, SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS, POULTRY FARM, AND OF COURSE, THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES COMMERCIAL IN NATURE.
SO THIS IS THE SITE, UH, JUST NORTH OF THE, UH, WHAT I BELIEVE IS THE ALA MOTEL.
UM, ZONED AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIALS ON THE OTHER SIDE.
UM, THE BLUE HIGHLIGHTS RESIDENTIAL AREA FOR FUTURE LAND USE.
AND WHILE IT'S NOT SHOWN UP HERE, THERE'S, IT'S NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE, IT'S NOT IN THE RPA.
THESE ARE SOME PICTURES OF THE SITE.
WE CONDUCTED A SITE VISIT PROBABLY ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO.
UM, THERE ARE, UM, UH, OVER 85 VEHICLES.
MOST ARE UNREGISTERED AND UNLICENSED, UM, AS YOU'LL SEE HERE.
AND WE ALSO HAVE SOME LIKE LOOSE PARTS, ENGINE PARTS, THE LIKE, THAT ARE OUT IN THE ELEMENTS.
WE ALSO HAVE, UH, A PRIVACY FENCE.
WHEN WE WERE THERE ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO, IT WAS ALMOST COMPLETE, BUT IT WAS MISSING A GATE.
AND SOME OF THE, UH, THE SCREENING WAS NOT PUT UP.
SO SOME BACKGROUND, I'LL JUST READ IT VERBATIM.
UH, ON NOVEMBER 2ND, 2022 SUSE 0 0 0 4 1 7 20 22 WAS APPROVED FOR LIGHT INDUSTRY IN THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT FOR USE AS AN AUTO REPAIR FACILITY.
THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WAS APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
UH, NUMBER ONE, THE FENCE THAT IS LOCATED ON THE PARCEL MUST BE COMPLETED AND MAINTAINED.
AND THE VEHICLES THAT ARE UNLICENSED AND NOT BEING IMMEDIATELY REPAIRED SHALL BE KEPT INSIDE THE GARAGE OR INSIDE THE FENCED AREA AND BE PARKED OUT FRONT.
NUMBER TWO, NO MORE THAN FIVE UNLICENSED VEHICLES MAY BE STORED ON THE PARCEL AT ANY ONE TIME, AND THE STORAGE OF JUNK VEHICLES FOR PARTS IS PROHIBITED.
UM, AND OF COURSE, THE REASON WE'RE HERE IS THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN OPERATING IN AUTO REPAIR SHOP IN VIOLATION OF THE CONDITIONS.
AGAIN, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, AS A RECENT SITE VISIT, THERE WERE 85 UNREGISTERED AND UNLICENSED VEHICLES ON THE PARCEL.
SOME OF THESE VEHICLES ARE MISSING ENGINES, TRANSMISSIONS, AND OTHER COMPONENTS MAKING THEM JUNK VEHICLES, UH, NONE FROM OUR SITE VISIT APPEAR TO BE OPERABLE.
UM, THERE ARE ALSO SPARE ENGINES OUT IN THE ELEMENTS AND LEAKING OIL INTO THE GROUND.
SOME OF THE VEHICLES ARE ALSO LEAKING OIL AND OTHER FLUIDS INTO THE GROUND.
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THE PRESENCE OF OVER FIVE UNLICENSED VEHICLES VIOLATES A CONDITION OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT.ALSO, THIS IS PRESENTLY, UH, CONSIDERED AN AUTOMOBILE GRAVEYARD, WHICH IS NOT AN ALLOWED USE.
UM, AND NUMBER TWO, THE FENCE SURROUNDING THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY IS INCOMPLETE AS OF THE SITE VISIT THREE WEEKS AGO.
UM, THIS ALSO IS A VIOLATION OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
UM, HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT WAS ACTIVELY WORKING ON THE FENCE WHEN WE WERE THERE.
AS A PREPARATION OF THIS REPORT, NO WRITTEN PUBLIC COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED.
WE HAVE RECEIVED COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS PROPERTY MULTIPLE TIMES OVER THE PAST YEAR.
UM, BUT NOTHING WRITTEN FOR THIS HEARING.
UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT BE RESCINDED BASED ON THESE VIOLATIONS OR THAT THIS MATTER BE CONTINUED TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO REMEDY THESE VIOLATIONS.
SO, UM, THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION.
UM, I HAVE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'M HERE.
THE APPLICANTS ARE ALSO HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THEM.
DID MR. PAYMENT NEED TO SPEAK TO US BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE KEN? KEN, THE APPLICANTS? LEMME CHECK ON HIM.
NO, I JUST WANTED, LISTEN, SORRY.
UH, IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO, ANYTHING FROM THE APPLICANT'S THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH US ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON? YEAH.
UH, WOULD YOU GIVE US, UH, YOUR, YOUR FULL NAME? WELLS GUGU.
UH, DO YOU SWEAR RIGHT HAND PLEASE? DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? I DO.
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHARE WITH US TODAY? UM, SO WE HAVE FINISHED THE FENCE AND WE HAVE SOME PICTURES, UM, IF YOU GUYS WANNA SEE 'EM.
AND ALSO THE 85 CARS THAT HE MENTIONED, THEY'RE NOT ALL UNREGISTERED.
THAT WAS 85 CARS TOTAL THAT WAS IN THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND WE HAVE TALKED TO WATSON, I DON'T THINK HE'S HERE.
HE MENTIONED THAT WE SHOULD MOVE SOME CARS AND, YOU KNOW, CLEAN UP A LITTLE BIT.
WE HAVE, AND THE REST OF THE CAR THAT'S ON THE PARKING LOT RIGHT NOW, AND I HAVE MY, UM, TAX, UM, PERSONAL PROPERTY THING.
UM, I THINK THERE'S ABOUT MAYBE 40 LEFT ON THE CAR.
36 OF 'EM ARE REGISTERED AND WE HAVE THE PAPERWORK TO PROVE THAT, UM, SOME OF 'EM DON'T HAVE TAGS ON THEM, IF THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO AS NOT BEING REGISTERED.
BUT WE HAVE ABOUT, UM, ALMOST ALL THE CAR THAT'S ON THE LAB, YOU KNOW, REGISTERED.
AND AS FAR AS THE PICTURES THAT HE SHOWED WITH THE, UM, PARTS THAT HE SAID THEY WERE LOOSE, THESE, UM, HAVE BEEN PICKED UP.
AND WE ALSO HAVE PEOPLE REGULARLY COME BY AND PICK 'EM UP.
UM, BECAUSE AFTER, YOU KNOW, WE SWITCH AN ENGINE, WE HAVE TO PUT THE PARTS SOMEWHERE FOR SOMEBODY TO PICK 'EM UP.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE ELSE TO DISPOSE OF THAT.
NOW, LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, THE CONDITION WERE, IF WE HAVE THE FENCE AND PUT THE CARD THAT ARE NOT REGISTERED ON LICENSE AND NOT BEING WORKED ON BEHIND THE FENCE, THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.
BUT ONLY ISSUE WE HAVE IS THE SECOND PARCEL SAYS NO MORE THAN FIVE ON LICENSE ON THE PARCEL.
TO MY UNDERSTANDING, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE NO MORE THAN FIVE UNLICENSED CAR IN THE FRONT THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE FROM THE HIGHWAY.
BUT AS FAR AS THE FENCE, IT'S COMPLETED.
UM, I MEAN, WE, WE WERE A LITTLE LATE ON THAT.
THAT'S OUR FAULT, BUT IT IS COMPLETED.
SO, SO ARE YOU SAYING NOW THAT WHEN THEY SAID YOU HAD 85, NOW YOU'RE DOWN TO 40 CAR CARS TOTAL? YES.
AND OUT OF THAT 40, SO 40 CARS HAVE BEEN REMOVED? YES.
WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN ACTIVELY REMOVING CARS AND TRYING TO CALL PEOPLE TO COME PICK UP THE CAR.
UM, WE WE'RE TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO WORK WITH THIS TO MAKE IT RIGHT.
'CAUSE AND, AND OF THE CARS, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I GOT EVERYTHING STRAIGHT.
ARE THE CARS YOU HAVE ON YOUR LOT? YOU'RE SAYING 30 30, SOME OF THE 40 ARE REGISTERED YES, BUT NOT TAGGED.
UM, SOME OF 'EM ARE TAGGED, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM.
BUT I HAVE THE, UM, TAX BILL FOR ALL THESE CARDS THAT ARE THERE IF THEY WANT TO COME BACK AND VERIFY THEM.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I RIDE BY THERE EVERY DAY AND I CAN'T, I CAN'T GO WITH WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME.
UM, HAVE YOU, DID YOU PASS BY TODAY? IN THE LAST WEEK? WE'VE BEEN ACTING, YEAH.
YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THAT MANY I SEE, I SEE ALL THE VEHICLES AND, UM, YOU KNOW MM-HMM
YOU, YOU CAN'T BE WORKING ON ALL THESE VEHICLES.
THERE'S NO WAY THEY'VE BEEN THERE.
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YOU KNOW, I RIDE BY, I DON'T, I SEE A FEW VEHICLES COME AND A FEW VEHICLES GO AND, AND THIS IS WAS NOT PART OF THE DEAL.THE CAR THAT WERE UP FRONT, UM, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, THE, THE DEAL WAS IF THE CAR THAT ARE UP FRONT HAVE TAGS OR REGISTERED, AND THEY'RE NOT OURS, THE CUSTOMERS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST THERE.
NOW YOU SAYING YOU RIDE BY THE, UM, A COUPLE CARS HAVE MOVED, BUT YEAH, SOME OF 'EM NEED ENGINES.
SOME OF 'EM NEED TRANSMISSION.
SOME OF 'EM ARE REBUILDING THE ENGINES.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT TO DO ABOUT THAT PART.
IF A CUSTOMER'S LIKE, HEY, THIS IS NOT THE, WE, WE'VE DEALT WITH THESE THINGS BEFORE MM-HMM
AND ACTUALLY HAD DEQ GET INVOLVED.
WHAT, WHAT'S THE EQ? DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.
AND THAT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE AMOUNT OF CARS OR YES, IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE FLUIDS ON THE GROUND AND, AND ALL THAT.
I'M SURE THERE ARE SOME, BECAUSE IT'S A MECHANIC SHAFT.
THIS IS, THIS IS REALLY HARDENED.
LIKE, IT, IT'S HARD TO SAY IT'S NEVER GONNA HAPPEN.
BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THE ORDER, SOMEBODY WE CAN CALL IF THERE'S A SPOT THAT NEED TO BE CLEANED OR LET US KNOW.
I DON'T MIND WORKING, UM, DOING WHAT YOU GUYS NEED.
BUT I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT.
THIS IS THE, THIS IS A PICTURE THIS MORNING.
UM, YOU SAID YOU DRIVE BY EVERY DAY.
AND LOOK AT, THERE IS NOT 10 CARS UP FRONT.
THERE'S NOT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAD THIS BEFORE AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW, IT LOADED UP.
AND YOU STARTED ON THE FENCE AND YOU DIDN'T FINISH IT.
THE PART OF THE FENCE THAT WASN'T FINISHED WAS JUST THE REAR END OF THE FENCE.
BUT YOU KNOW, IN THOSE DOCUMENTS YOU HAVE THERE MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE THE REGISTRATIONS FOR ALL THOSE VEHICLES.
IF YOU WANT 'EM, WE CAN GO ONLINE AND BRING 'EM FOR, I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT.
UM, ARE THEY REGISTERED IN YOUR NAME? I HAVE ABOUT ARE THEY CURRENT REGISTRATIONS? YES.
CURRENT REGISTRATION PAID AND EVERYTHING.
AND WE HAVE THE TAX PAPER HERE.
IF, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU QUESTIONING.
THIS IS ONE, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE WITH A LIST OF AT LEAST 13 CARS ON THERE THAT IS REGISTERED.
AND, UH, THOSE, THAT'S YOUR TAX BILL.
I THINK WE NEED TO GET MR. JONES MAKE A COMMENT HERE.
SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, REGISTERED VEHICLES, WHEN WE WERE OUT ON THE SITE, THERE WERE A LOT OF CARS THAT DID NOT HAVE LICENSE PLATES ON 'EM.
THERE WERE A LOT OF CARS THAT EVEN IF THEY HAD LICENSE PLATES ON 'EM, THE TAGS WERE EXPIRED.
IF THERE ARE EXPIRED TAGS, THEY CANNOT BE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND LICENSED IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA, THE TAGS ARE EXPIRED.
UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF THAT GOING ON.
WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT PLATES THAT ARE ON THE CARS.
WE'VE GOT TAGS THAT ARE EXPIRED.
AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSIONER REVENUE, WHILE THEY DO THE BEST THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE NOT ALWAYS THE MOST ACCURATE REPRESENTATIONS OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY ON THE SITE.
UM, AND OTHER COMMENT I WILL MAKE IS I HAVE THE, I HAVE THE MINUTES FROM THE 2022 BZA HEARING IN FRONT OF ME.
IT SAYS VERBATIM, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS APPROVED WITH FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
NUMBER ONE, THE FENCE THAT IS LOCATED ON THE PARCEL MUST BE COMPLETED AND MAINTAINED.
AND THE VEHICLES THAT ARE UNLICENSED AND NOT BEING IMMEDIATELY REPAIRED SHALL BE KEPT INSIDE THE GARAGE OR INSIDE THE FENCE AREA AND BE PARKED OUT FRONT.
NUMBER TWO, NO MORE THAN FIVE UNLICENSED VEHICLES MAY BE STORED ON THE PARCEL AT ANY ONE TIME.
AND THE STORAGE OF JUNK VEHICLES FOR PARTS IS PROHIBITED.
THOSE ARE WHAT THE CONDITIONS SAY.
SO LET, LET ME UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY.
SO YOU GUYS HAD US BUILD A FENCE JUST TO PUT FIVE CARS IN THE BACK.
'CAUSE THAT'S NOT HOW I UNDERSTOOD IT.
THAT'S, I GUESS THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM WAS.
IF THERE ARE CARS THAT ARE NOT TAGGED OR UNREGISTERED, PUT 'EM BEHIND THE FENCE.
YOU CAN'T TELL THE DEFINITION OF JUNKYARD.
YOU CAN'T TELL ME YOU'RE NOT A JUNKYARD.
UM, DEFINITION OF YOU GUYS, A JUNKYARD IS A CAR THAT IS NOT
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WORTH FIXING AND THAT'S BEING PULLED APART.IF YOU CAN FIND A CAR THAT'S NOT WORTH FIXING, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT ON MY LEFT.
WHY ARE ALL THOSE VEHICLES SITTING THERE? WELL, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WANTS THEIR CAR FIXED.
AND AS YOU CAN TELL, WE ALSO OWN A LOT OF CARS.
I CURRENTLY HAVE SEVEN CARS TAGGED UNDER MY NAME RIGHT NOW THAT I DRIVE, THAT I, I LIKE CARS.
I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE, WE WE'RE FAULTING ON ON THIS.
LIKE, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE FENCE NEED TO BE KEPT IN MAINTENANCE.
TOO MANY CARS UP FRONT, NO PROBLEM.
UM, WE'LL TRY TO KEEP A LIMITED AMOUNT OF CARS UP FRONT.
UM, BECAUSE LIKE, WE DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK BAD.
AND ALSO WE, WE DO DRIVE AROUND.
WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE WITH LIKE A BUNCH OF CARS UP FRONT.
THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLES WITH PLENTY OF UNREGISTERED CARD.
I MEAN, I'M LIKE, I DON'T NEED TO BE, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THEM.
AND I DON'T KNOW, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE BEHIND THAT.
'CAUSE IN YOUR, UM, THING, YOU GUYS WANT TO CHANGE IT FROM BUSINESS TO RESIDENTIAL IF THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT.
LET'S SAY THAT IF IT IS ABOUT THE FENCE OR THE CARS GIVE US TIME TO FIX IT MORE THAN WHAT WE ALREADY DONE.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO TO, TO DO THIS.
IT'S NOT, WE, YOU ARE TAKING OUR BUSINESS AWAY FROM US BECAUSE WE, WE LIKE CARS BECAUSE WE HAVE TOO MANY CARS AND PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO WAIT FOR US TO REBUILD ENGINE FOR THEM.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER, I I THINK WE NEED TO HEAR FROM LEE.
LEE, PAM, A DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE DESIGNATED ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.
IF I COULD HAVE A CLICKER PLEASE.
PAM, DO WE HAVE THE LIST SIGNED? THE, OKAY.
CAN WE GO BACK TO THE ZONING MAP? OKAY.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, THE PROPERTY, AND I'M SURE STAFF HAS ALREADY COVERED THIS, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AGRICULTURE AND IN THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, JUNKYARDS ARE NOT PERMITTED.
NOW I'M SURE THAT SYNGEN HAS GONE OVER THE DEFINITION OF JUNKYARD, BUT BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE IS A VIOLATION OF A SPECIFIC CONDITION THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2022 BY THE BZA.
SO THERE IS NO PLAN TO CHANGE THIS ZONING FROM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT IS AGRICULTURAL TO ANYTHING ELSE.
THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A BUSINESS HERE AND, UH, IN THE PAST THAT'S CLEAR WITH BY THE, UH, UM, BY THE, UH, BY THE BUILDING THAT'S THERE NOW.
AND OF COURSE, THE BZA APPROVED A BUSINESS ON THIS, UH, UH, ON THIS SITE BACK IN 2022 WITH VERY SPECIFIC CONDITIONS.
UNFORTUNATELY, IT APPEARS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS EXCEEDED THE CONDITIONS OF THE, UH, OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO, UH, I JUST WANTED TO COME UP HERE AND INDICATE THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THAT THE STAFF HAS DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE.
THEY'VE, UM, EVIDENTLY BEEN WORKING WITH THE, UH, WITH THE OWNER ON, UH, ON COMPLIANCE AND MAKING SURE THAT THERE IS CLARIFICATION AND CLARITY ON THE, ON THE CONDITION.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS AT THIS TIME FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR RESOLUTION OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, TO LET THE, YOU KNOW, TO LET THE SYSTEM PLAY OUT.
A VIOLATION HAS BEEN NOTED THROUGH A NOTICE OF VIOLATION.
AND, UM, AND, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST WRITTEN IN BLACK AND WHITE WHAT THE, UH, WHAT THE CONDITIONS ARE.
YOU KNOW, ONE OPTION MAY BE TO, UH, MAYBE TO PROVIDE AN EXTENSION, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THE, UH, OR NOT AN EXTENSION, BUT, UH, UH, A, A GRACE PERIOD FOR COMPLIANCE.
NOT TO ALLOW THEM, BUT TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF CARS OVER TIME, UH, WITH SPECIFIC BENCHMARKS SAYING, OKAY, YOU'VE GOTTA GET RID OF 10 CARS A MONTH UNTIL YOU COMPLY.
YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO, JUST TRYING TO, UH, THINK OF SOME, UH, SOME SOLUTIONS HERE SO AS NOT TO, UH, NOT TO COMPLETELY HURT THE BUSINESS, BUT THE BUSINESS DOES HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO COMPLY WITH THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT CONDITIONS.
UM, THAT CONCLUDES MY REMARKS.
AND I CAN FIELD ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
UH, I, YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, I LOOK AT WHAT'S BACK THERE AND I, YOU KNOW, I'M, I THINK THAT TO GET
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INTO COMPLIANCE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT SOMETHING ON THERE WHERE THERE'S, THERE'S A, A WRITTEN STATEMENT ON EACH VEHICLE.BECAUSE IT, I DUNNO IF THAT SEEMS REASONABLE OR NOT.
UH, SOMETHING ON EACH VEHICLE, YOU KNOW, JUST SHOWING A, A TAX STATEMENT, YOU KNOW, PAYING TAXES ON THEM IS, IS, IS, IS, YOU KNOW, IT JUST SHOWS YOU'RE PAYING TAXES ON IT.
IT DOESN'T SHOW ANYTHING OTHER, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SERIAL NUMBER FOR THE VEHICLE, BUT, YOU KNOW, NO REGISTRATION AND, AND NO TITLES.
SO, UH, A STATEMENT AND VALIDATION OF EACH VEHICLE IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHATEVER WE SAID, WHATEVER IT WAS BEFORE, WAS HOW MANY WITHIN THE FENCED AREA.
SO THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT DID NOT SPECIFICALLY SAY HOW MANY WOULD BE WITHIN THE FENCED AREA.
IT JUST SAYS, UM, FENCES LOCATED ON THE PARCEL MUST BE COMPLETED AND MAINTAINED IN THE VEHICLES THAT ARE UNLICENSED AND NOT BEING IMMEDIATELY REPAIRED SHALL BE KEPT INSIDE THE GARAGE OR INSIDE THE FENCED AREA.
AND THEN IT SAYS, AND BE PARKED OUT FRONT, IT'S, IT'S CONDITION TWO WHERE WE GET INTO THE NUMBER OF UNLICENSED VEHICLES.
AND THAT SAYS NO MORE THAN FIVE UNLICENSED VEHICLES MAY BE STORED ON THE PARCEL AT ANY ONE TIME.
AND THE STORAGE OF JUNK VEHICLES FOR PARTS IS PROHIBITED.
SO IT'S THE, IT'S THE FIVE UNLICENSED VEHICLES WHERE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT.
SO WE NEED TO GET IN AND, AND HOW MANY? ONLY FIVE UNLICENSED VEHICLES.
IF WE COULD, I THINK WE WANT TO, ONE OF THE STAFF WANTS TO SHARE SOME INFORMATION WITH US.
UM, I THINK THE THING THAT PEOPLE ARE FAILING TO CLEAR, UH, UNDERSTAND YOU CAN HAVE A TITLE TO A CAR AND YOU OWN THAT, BUT HAVING A CAR REGISTERED IS SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A REGISTRATION AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE LICENSE PLATES THAT'S MAKES YOUR CAR LEGAL.
YOU CAN HAVE A TITLE AND YOU'LL BE CHARGED TAXES ON IT 'CAUSE YOU OWN THAT PROPERTY.
BUT TO MAKE IT LEGAL AND STREET LEGAL, IT HAS TO HAVE A TAG AND IT HAS TO BE REGISTERED WITH THE STATE OF MARYLAND OR STATE OF VIRGINIA OR WHATEVER STATE IT IS.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE RUNNING INTO PROBLEMS. I THINK THEY OWN THE CARS, WHICH ISN'T A PROBLEM.
YOU CAN OWN THE CAR, BUT IF IT'S NOT REGISTERED AND YOU DON'T HAVE TA CURRENT TAGS ON IT, IT'S CONSIDERED A GRAVEYARD.
IF YOU JUST LEAVE THE CAR SITTING THERE, THOSE CARS NEED TO BE REGISTERED OR TAGGED TO STORM OR AGAIN, BEHIND A FENCE OR WHATEVER.
BUT THAT, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GETTING INTO.
THEY DO OWN A LOT OF THE CARS THAT THEY HAVE THERE, BUT THEY'RE NOT REGISTERED.
AND THIS IS A REPAIR BUSINESS AND YOU CAN'T JUST STORE CARS THERE.
SO DID YOU, DID YOU WANNA SHARE ANYTHING ELSE WITH US? UM, SO WITH, WITH THE FIVE CARS, LIKE I SAID, I THINK THERE WAS, THERE WAS A MIS WORDING ON THAT.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FIVE CARS IN THE FRONT THAT CAN BE SEEN FROM THE HIGHWAY.
'CAUSE THAT WAS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF BUILDING THE, THE FENCE BEHIND THE, THE SHOP SO THAT WE CAN PUT THOSE CARS BEHIND THE SHOP.
NOW I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S SAYING.
SOME CARS HAS BEEN SITTING THERE FOR, LET'S SAY A YEAR BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY GET TO THEM.
SINCE THAT'S A STIPULATION YOU GUYS WANT TO BUY.
IF WE GOT GET A CAR, YOU GET THE TITLE, YOU HAVE A YEAR TO FIX IT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T LET IT SIT.
WE CAN, WE CAN WORK WITH THAT.
LIKE I SAID, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WORKING WITH WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO TO, UH, MAKE THIS WORK.
BUT SAYING ONLY FIVE CARS AFTER WE BUILD THE FENCE IS A LITTLE LOW.
FIVE IS, IS IS VERY SMALL FOR A BUSINESS.
LIKE SOME CUSTOMER WILL BRING A CAR THAT DOESN'T HAVE A TAG ON IT, THAT THERE WILL BE MORE THAN FIVE.
LIKE, WE CAN TRY TO KEEP THE CUSTOMER, UM, CARS AT FIVE, LIKE, HEY, WE CAN DO THIS, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
BUT WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE CARS.
LIKE, I'M NOT SURE WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO TO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THIS.
SO WHAT WOULD BE, OTHER THAN TOTALLY RESCINDED, WHAT, WHAT WOULD, WHAT DO, WOULD YOU SEE SGIN AS A REASONABLE MARK PER MONTH TO TRY TO GET DOWN AND IT, ARE WE CLEAR THOUGH THAT THEY'VE GONE FROM 85 TO 40? BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG JUMP AT THIS.
I, I HAVE NOT BEEN OUT TO THE SITE.
SINCE, SINCE THE SITE VISIT WE DID THREE WEEKS AGO.
UM, THE WAY I SEE IT, AND THIS IS JUST ME
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THINKING OUT LOUD, UM, WE COULD GIVE THEM A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DAYS TO GET TO FIVE THAT COULD BE 30, 60, 90, WHATEVER YOU GUYS WANNA DO.AND AT THE END OF THAT, AT THE END OF THAT, IF THEY HAVEN'T DONE IT, I GUESS WE COME BACK IN HERE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU DIDN'T FOLLOW IT.
I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S HOW I SEE IT, BUT OKAY.
I THINK WE'RE READY TO MAKE A MOTION.
THE, THE SOLUTION WOULD BE TO TAG ALL THESE VEHICLES.
NOW AS FAR AS ARE NOT DRIVABLE, SOME OF 'EM ARE NOT DRIVABLE YET.
IF THEY'RE NOT DRIVABLE INSURANCE.
YOU'RE NOT
NO, THESE ARE NOT REGISTERED VEHICLES.
THEREFORE, THEREFORE THEY'RE SITTING BACK THERE.
I, I KNOW WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE AND, AND THEY'RE JUNK.
EXPLAIN JUNK JUNKER VEHICLES THAT WILL NOT START WILL NOT ROLL, CANNOT BE, CANNOT PASS STATE INSPECTION.
THEY, SOME OF THEM CANNOT START.
NO, THEY, THEY'RE WORTH MORE THAN WHAT THEY'RE SITTING AT.
YOU KNOW, YOU GOT 80 SOME VEHICLES THERE.
THE 80 SOME VEHICLE ARE NOT ALL OUR CARS.
THERE ARE 80 SOME VEHICLES ON THE TOTAL THING.
AT LEAST 40 OF THESE WERE, WERE CUSTOMER CARS.
MOST PEOPLE WE LOST MONEY ON THAT 'CAUSE SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE THEIR MONEY TO PICK UP THE CAR.
WE SAID PICK 'EM UP ANYWAY, JUST BECAUSE WE WANTED TO GET RID OF SOME OF THE CARS JUST TO AVOID THIS.
NOW, THE REST OF THE CARS THAT ARE OURS, WE HAVE, UM, TITLES FOR THEM.
UM, MOST OF THEM, A LOT OF THEM.
BUT I'M SURE AFTER THAT YOU, YOU GUYS GONNA ASK FOR INSPECTION ON THEM EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT RUNNING.
IT'S, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE BEHIND THIS.
UH, WE PULL UP THE FENCE AND WE PUT ALL THE CARS BEHIND THE FENCE.
YOU GUYS WENT BEHIND IT AND COUNT THE CARS AND BE LIKE, THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DIVIDE.
HOW DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO TELL ME I CAN PUT UNREGISTERED CAR BEHIND THE FENCE AND THEN TURN AROUND AND SAID ONLY FIVE ON THE WHOLE PARCEL.
IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY CLEAR ON WHAT WE DID IN 22 AND YOU JUST MISINTERPRETED IT.
NO, YOU, YOU GUYS MISWORDED IT.
YOU TOLD US TO PUT THE CARS BEHIND THE FENCE.
WHY WOULD WE BUILD A WHOLE FENCE TO PUT FIVE CARS? WE BUILT A WHOLE FENCE AND ON A ACRE OF 1.7 ACRE LYNN TO PUT FIVE CARS BEHIND THERE.
I MEAN THE, THE MINUTES SAY WHAT THEY SAY AND, AND OF THAT, MYSELF AND MR. WATSON LISTENED TO THE AUDIO AND IT MATCHES.
I WAS, I WAS IN THERE FOR THAT PHONE CONVERSATION.
MR. WATSON GAVE YOU THE EXACT TIMESTAMP AND WHERE TO FIND THE AUDIO.
YEAH, I TALKED TO HIM AND I SAID, I CAN'T FIND, I FIND THE PAPER.
HE'S LIKE, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I SAID.
WE, WE, I WAS THERE FOR THAT CONVERSATION.
UM, CAN I ADD SOMETHING? YOU ARE GONNA HAVE TO COME BEFORE US AND GIVE US YOUR NAME.
UH, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, NOTHING BUT TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD ON ALL MATTERS BEFORE US? YES.
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHARE? UM, WHAT I WANT TO ADD TO EVERYTHING I ALREADY SAID IS LIKE, UH, SINCE WE HAD THIS PERMIT IN 2022, WE NEVER HAD ANYBODY STOP THERE.
SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE MORE THAN FIVE VEHICLES OR WHAT, OR, YOU KNOW, AND THE ONLY NOTICE WE HAD LIKE, NOT EVEN 30 DAYS WAS, UM, WE ARE COMING TO TAKE PICTURES, YOU KNOW, THIS WEEK, LIKE TWO WEEKS BEFORE.
UM, AND AFTER THAT, THE TIMEFRAME BETWEEN THE DAYS, HE JUST, UH, HE, THEY CAME TO TAKE THE PICTURES AND TWO DAYS, NOT EVEN LIKE, I THINK LIKE 15 DAYS.
AND WE ALREADY DO THE EFFORT TO WE MOVE THIS CAR, CALL EVERYBODY, LIKE, YOU KNOW, PICK YOUR CARS OUT.
SO WE ARE WORKING ON IT SO HARD TO, TO SEE HOW WE CAN GET IT CLEAR.
AND AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE STILL WORKING ON IT.
AND ACTUALLY, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY, UM, HOW WE CAN SPEED IT UP TO, TO GET TO WHATEVER YOU WANT OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, ALL OF YOU WANT.
UM, ALSO, I UNDERSTAND THE PART THAT IT'S, IT'S HARD TO US NOT EVEN, I MEAN IT'S, IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD.
UM, AND I REALIZED THAT WHEN I WAS START MOVING SOME CARS, I'M LIKE, WHAT? YOU KNOW, IT JUST THE WAY IT WAS.
IT'S LIKE, IT'S, IT'S THE WAY THE CAR IS BUILDING.
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OH, THAT'S A LOT.BUT BY THE TIME WE START CALLING PEOPLE AND YOU KNOW, TAKE THIS OUT AND TAKE THIS ONE AND EVEN CALL SOME JUNKER 'CAUSE SOME PEOPLE DON'T ANSWER.
SO WE HAD TO JUST CALL, UM, THE JUNKER TO JUST COME GET SOME OF THEM.
UM, BUT FOR THE FRONT IT'S, YEAH, BUT WE ARE WORKING ON THAT.
WE, WE ARE WORKING ON THIS AND, AND REALLY HARD AND UH, ALSO I I REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, THE, WHAT YOU DO FOR US IN 2022.
YOU KNOW, I'M USED TO IT AND UH, I ALWAYS REMEMBER YOUR NAME, YOU KNOW, THE WAY YOU DID THAT.
AND, UM, WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THIS TO GET IT DONE THE WAY YOU WANT IT DONE.
THE ONLY THING WE MISUNDERSTAND, I THINK I DID OR HIT IT.
I MEAN, BOTH OF US, IT'S FIVE CARS ON THE WHOLE PROPERTY.
THE WAY WE UNDERSTAND, IT'S OKAY, WE CAN, WE CANNOT HAVE MORE THAN FIVE CARS IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY AND THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE.
BUT IN THE WHOLE PROPERTY, IT MAKE US DO THE FENCE FOR THE WHOLE PROPERTY.
AND AFTER THAT YOU SAY, OKAY, YOU HAVE TO PUT ONLY FIVE CARS IN THERE.
IT'S STILL, IT'S STILL, I MEAN, HARD FOR US TO, TO ACCEPT.
IT'S NOT A TOTAL OF FIVE CARS, IT'S FIVE UNREGISTERED CARS, UNREGISTERED OR UNLICENSED.
SO IT SAYS ON FIVE UNLICENSED VEHICLES.
RIGHT? AND SO THEY'RE NOT SAYING YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE CARS.
THEY'RE SAYING YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN FIVE UNREGISTERED CARS.
YOU READ THE FIRST PART, IT SAYS ANY CAR THAT ARE UNREGISTERED OR NOT BEING WORKED ON RIGHT AWAY NEED TO BE BEHIND THE FENCE WITH NO NUMBERS.
AND THEN TURNED AROUND AND SAID NO MORE THAN FIVE ON THE WHOLE PROPERTY.
THAT'S A, THAT WE MISUNDERSTOOD THAT COMPLETELY.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A FAILURE WITHIN ITSELF.
LIKE, HOW CAN WE DO THAT? AND YOU GUYS ARE ALLOWED TO GO BACK THERE AND TELL THE CARS AND BE LIKE, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
SO BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION, IT, UM, I JUST WANNA READ INTO RECORD THE DEFINITION OF AUTOMOBILE GRAVEYARD BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, SO AUTOMOBILE GRAVEYARD, THIS COMES FROM, UH, SECTION 1 0 6 DASH ONE.
DEFINITIONS UNDER AUTOMOBILE GRAVEYARD MEANS ANY LOT MEANS ANY LOT OR PLACE WHICH IS EXPOSED TO THE WEATHER UPON WHICH MORE THAN FIVE MOTOR VEHICLES OF ANY KIND ARE LOCATED AND ARE INCAPABLE OF BEING OPERATED.
AND WHICH IT WOULD NOT BE ECONOMICALLY PRACTICAL TO MAKE OPERATIVE OR ARE NOT CURRENTLY LICENSED.
THAT'S ALSO, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE ALSO, THAT'S ALSO A THING.
UM, WHEN YOU SAID, UH, IT IT'S NOT WORTH FIXING.
WELL IT SAYS OR IT SAYS OR ARE NOT CURRENTLY LICENSED.
SO WHICH MEAN LIKE HALF OF THE WHOLE ESSENTIAL SHOPS NEED TO BE PICKED DONE.
WE ARE MR. MILLBURN, OBVIOUSLY HE DEALS WITH THIS EVERY DAY.
SO IF THERE ARE VIOLATIONS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF HANDLING THOSE VIOLATIONS, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS ONE.
CHRIS, YOU STILL RECOMMENDATION? OKAY.
UM, AS I SAID IN THE PAST, WE'VE DEALT WITH THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION.
WE CALLED DEQ IN BECAUSE IT WAS SO BAD.
AND UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING IF WE, IF WE WANT TO PURSUE THAT, THAT'S SOME WAY WE CAN CALL, UM, SOMEBODY A DEQ AND MAKE THEM AWARE OF THE SITUATION MM-HMM
AND HAVE THEM DO A, A VISIT OF THEIR OWN.
UH, I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION.
IS IT, THERE'S NO SUGGESTED I, WE DO NOT HAVE A RECOMMENDED MOTION BECAUSE WE DID NOT KNOW WHAT DIRECTION THIS WAS GONNA GO IN HERE.
SO THIS IS, UM, THIS IS SUSE 4 17 20 22.
UM, I'M, I MAKE A MOTION ON REGARDING THE REVOCATION OF SUSE 0 0 4 1 7 20 22, THAT THEY'RE GIVEN 90 DAYS TO CORRECT THE SITUATION TO NO MORE THAN FIVE UNREGISTERED VEHICLES.
IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT, WHAT WAS THAT?
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UH, GRAVEYARD, UM, IN COMPLIANCE SO THAT THEY'RE NOT AN AUTOMOBILE GRAVEYARD.WHAT'S THAT? THE NUMBER 1 0 6.
1 0 6 DASH ONE IN THE COUNTY CODE 90 DAYS.
I BELIEVE THAT THESE GENTLEMEN NEED ADDITIONAL TIME TO GIVE THEM ADDITIONAL TIME TO COME IN COMPLIANCE AS THE MOTION STATEMENTS.
AND, AND JUST AN ADDITIONAL COMMENT, I RECOGNIZE THAT THEY'RE FEELING THE NICHE IN THE AUTO MECHANICS VOID MM-HMM
BY FIXING VEHICLES FOR THAT OTHER PEOPLE WOULDN'T TOUCH.
SO I RECOGNIZE THAT, BUT THEN AGAIN, WHAT WE, WE HAVE TO GET IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COUNTY CODE.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET MORE THAN 90 DAYS? IT'S A LOT OF WORK TO, AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK HERE AND WE, I MEAN THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW IS 90 DAYS.
I SAY 90 DAYS AND COME BACK AND WE'LL REVIEW IT THEN SEE HOW FAR YOU'VE PROGRESSED.
YOU KNOW, YOU GOT EITHER, EITHER TAG THEM, GET DOWN TO NO MORE THAN FIVE AND, UH, AND OR HAUL 'EM AWAY.
WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE AND WE'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN.
SO IT WOULD BE AUGUST, UH, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER.
YOU NOT, IT'D BE NOVEMBER FROM WHAT I, SO IT'S AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER.
OH, DOES THAT MEAN JUST TAG TAG THEM? IS THAT IT? I'M JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I I GET
SO THEY GOTTA, SO THEY GOTTA BE, THEY GOTTA BE REGISTERED WITH DMV, RIGHT? RIGHT.
AND THEY NEED PLATES AND TAGS.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE PLATES TAGS REGISTERED WITH DMV.
AND SO I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO MAKE SURE, UM, HOW DO I GET IT INSPECTED? IF, IF I REGISTER THE CAR TAG ON IT, IT'S MY CAR AND IT'S NOT RUNNING BECAUSE I HAVE TO BUILD THE ENGINE ON IT, HOW DO I GET IT REGISTERED BY BY INSPECT IT, YOU KNOW, BY THE, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT IS BY DEFINITION, IF THEY CANNOT ROLL, IF THEY CANNOT RUN ON THEIR OWN AND THEY CAN'T PASS INSPECTION, THEY'RE CONSIDERED JUNK VEHICLES.
I, I'M SORRY IF I HAVE A 20, I HAVE A 2019 DODGE CHALLENGER SITTING OVER THERE.
IT'S MINE, IT'S REGISTERED, I HAVE THE TITLE FOR IT.
UM, I CAN GO GET A TAG AND PUT ON IT.
RIGHT? LET'S SAY IT TAKES ME, IT'S MY CAR.
I'M NOT IN THE WASH TO FIX IT.
LET'S SAY IT TAKES ME SIX MONTHS TO FIX IT.
YOU TELL ME I HAVE TO ROLL IT TO A PLACE TO GET IT INSPECTED JUST SO I CAN KEEP IT BEHIND THE FENCE.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GOTTA BE BEHIND THE FENCE.
ONCE YOU GET YOUR TAGS, IF YOU DON'T GET YOUR CAR REGISTERED, INSPECTED, THEY WILL SUSPEND THOSE TAGS.
IT'S NO USE REGISTERING A CAR.
IT DOESN'T RUN IF YOU CAN'T GET IT INSPECTED THROUGH VIRGINIA INSPECTION.
THAT'S THE WHOLE, SO IF YOU RE YOU CAN GO GET A TAG, BUT YOU, THEY GIVE YOU 30 DAYS TO GET IT INSPECTED.
IF IT'S NOT INSPECTED, THEY'RE SUSPENDING THOSE TAGS THEY GAVE YOU.
SO IT'S NOT A REGISTERED CARD.
AND THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE FENCE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET A CAR THAT'S NOT RUNNING INSPECTED.
IT'S NOT ABOUT THE VALUE OF THE CAR.
THE CAR I'M TALKING ABOUT IS WORTH LIKE 20 GRAND.
LIKE YOU NEED TO TELL ME IF IT'S NOT WORTH FACING, I HAVE TO JUNK IT BECAUSE I CAN'T GET IT INSPECTED.
SO WHERE WE ARE NOW IS THE B CS RULE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU CAN WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THE MEETING.
I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GOT.
I, I WANNA CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER AND, AND, AND I THINK THAT WILL BE THE PROPER THING.
I THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO SIT DOWN AND, AND, AND WORK THROUGH THE LOGISTICS OF IT AND THEN, AND IN 90 DAYS YOU CAN COME BACK TO US AND KIND OF LET US KNOW WHERE YOU GUYS ARE.
FIRST ONE, I, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.
WE, WE ASK EVERYONE OTHER THAN APPLICANT TO SIGN THIS, IF YOU HAVEN'T SIGNED UP THEN YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO SPEAK DURING THIS MEETING.
UH, WE ASKED YOU TO DO THIS PRIOR TO, AND SO
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FOR ALL OF OUR APPLICANTS, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON BEHALF OF YOUR PARTICULAR CASE.SO, UM, MOVING ON, WE'LL GO TO VARIANCE 120 26.
THIS IS A SIDE SETBACK VARIANCE IN THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
NOW BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, UM, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER THE CASE TO SEPTE.
UM, THE FULL SCOPE OF THE PROJECT THAT WE FOUND OUT AFTER, UM, ADVERTISING IS THAT THEY DON'T JUST WANT THE ADDITION, THEY WANT A PORCH WITH ON THE FRONT OF THE ADDITION, WHICH WILL CHANGE THE SETBACK VARIANCE THAT'S REQUIRED.
SO WE ARE ASKING TO DEFER THIS CASE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT EXACTLY THEY WANT TO DO.
SO WHAT WE BRING YOU IS THE CORRECT VARIANCE NUMBER.
WE CONTINUE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT? SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
THAT'S BEEN CONTINUED TILL THE NEXT MEETING.
IT'S, UH, MR. UH, LARRY KEMP RANCH, JR.
THIS IS SUSE 0 0 0 1 5 8 20 25.
AND THIS IS HABITATION OF FOUR TRAVEL TRAILERS.
JUST SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
THE APPLICANT WAS, UH, MR. KEMP RANCH.
THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE, UH, MR. KEMP RANCH AND CHARLENE RANCH LOCATED AT THE 1400 BLOCK AM MERE STATION ROAD NEAR BLOCKS THEM.
UM, ELECTION DISTRICTS FOUR ACRES IS APPROXIMATELY ONE AND A HALF ACRES ZONED AGRICULTURAL FUTURE LAND USE RECOMMENDATIONS.
AGRICULTURAL AND THE CURRENT PROPOSED USES, CURRENT USES AGRICULTURAL NATURE, UM, AND THE PROPOSED USE IS AGRICULTURAL IN NATURE.
UM, IT'S A HUNTING CAMP BASICALLY, BUT IT'S UH, FOUR RVS FOR HABITATION.
UM, ADJACENT SONY'S ARE AGRICULTURAL ADJACENT USES ARE VACANT AND RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY.
SO THIS IS THE SITE ZONED AG, A FUTURE LAND USE RECOMMENDATIONS, ALSO AG, NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE, NOT IN RPA.
THESE ARE SOME PICTURES OF THE SITE.
THIS IS, UH, MERE STATION ROAD GOING BACK TOWARDS BLOCKS MIRROR STATION ROAD GOING TOWARDS HALL WOOD.
AND THESE ARE THE FOUR, UM, RVS THAT ARE CURRENTLY LOCATED ON SITE.
JUST AS SOME BACKGROUND, THIS IS AN AFTER THE FACT.
SO THESE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
THESE ARE THE FOUR TRAILERS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
SO ZONING ORDINANCE CONSIDERATIONS.
SO SECTION 1 0 6 1 PROVIDES THE DEFINITION OF TRAVEL TRAILER.
TRAVEL TRAILER MEANS A PORTABLE STRUCTURE BUILT ON A CHASSIS, DESIGNED TO BE USED AS A TEMPORARY OCCUPANCY FOR TRAVEL, RECREATION OR VACATION BEING LESS THAN 36 FEET IN LENGTH.
AND THEN, UH, SECTION 1 0 6 53 14 PROVIDES THE USE BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WHICH IS A TRAVEL TRAILERS LOCATED OUTSIDE OF TRAVEL TRAILER PARKS, WHICH ARE TO BE OCCUPIED FOR HABITATION OR STORAGE OF SHADOWS.
SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
NUMBER ONE, WHETHER PROPOSED USE WILL ADVERSELY IMPACT THE GENERAL CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, WHILE THE SITE IS REMOTE, THE SITE LOOKS LIKE A MOBILE HOME PARK, WHICH DOES HAVE AN EFFECT ON THE LARGER SURROUNDING AREA.
NUMBER TWO, WHETHER PROPOSED USE WILL ADVERSELY IMPACT PUBLIC UTILITIES.
THE SITE IS NOT SERVICED BY PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER.
UM, THE INDIVIDUAL RV OWNERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN DISPOSAL OF WASTE.
NUMBER THREE, WHETHER PROPOSED USE WILL CREATE AND FACILITATE THE PRESERVATION CREATION OF AN ATTRACTIVE AND HARMONIOUS COMMUNITY.
UH, GENERALLY TRAVEL TRAILERS DO NOT CREATE AN ATTRACTIVE AND HARMONIOUS COMMUNITY.
THIS SITE HAS FOUR TRAVEL TRAILERS, WHICH ADVERSELY AFFECTS THE AESTHETICS OF THE COMMUNITY.
NUMBER FOUR, WHETHER PROPOSED USE WILL ADVERSELY IMPACT THE ENVIRONMENT OR SCENIC, HISTORIC AND WATERFRONT AREAS.
ANSWER IS NO, THE PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED NEAR ANY OF THESE AREAS.
NUMBER FIVE, WHETHER PROPOSED USE WILL ADVERSELY IMPACT PROPERTY RIGHTS AND VALUES OF ADJOINING AND NEARBY PROPERTY OWNERS.
UH, THE USE OF TRAVEL TRAILERS FOR HABITATION IN ONE LOCATION ADVERSELY IMPACTS THE VALUE OF ADJOINING AND NEARBY PROPERTY OWNERS.
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SIX, WELL PROPOSED USE WILL PROMOTE THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE.UH, THE ANSWER THERE IS THE USE WILL NEITHER HINDER NOR PROMOTE THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE.
UH, NUMBER SEVEN, WHETHER PROPOSED USE IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH GOOD ZONING PRACTICE AND WITH STATE AND LOCAL LAWS, ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS, THE ANSWER IS NO.
TRAVEL TRAILERS ARE NOT DESIGNED FOR USE IN ONE LOCATION CONTINUOUSLY.
HOWEVER, THE BZA A HAS GRANTED SUVS FOR THIS TYPE OF USE OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS.
NO LOCAL LAWS, ORDINANCES, OR REGULATIONS ARE AFFECTED.
UH, NUMBER EIGHT, WHETHER GRANTING THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WITH OR WITHOUT CONSIDER CON CONDITIONS, EXCUSE ME, IS JUSTIFIED BY PUBLIC NECESSITY OR CONVENIENCE.
THIS USE HAS NO BEARING ON PUBLIC NECESSITY OR CONVENIENCE.
SO WE'LL GO INTO CONSIDERATIONS.
THIS IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONSIDERATION.
UH, THE 2018 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ON PAGE SIX DASH 20 STATES.
THE FOLLOWING, UH, THE TARGET DENSITY FOR INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPED PROPERTIES IN THIS AREA WOULD BE NO GREATER THAN APPROXIMATELY ONE DWELLING PER FIVE TO 10 ACRES ON AVERAGE AND A FAR LOWER OVERALL DENSITY.
UH, DENSITY IS CALCULATED BY DIVIDING THE NUMBER OF UNITS BY THE SIZE OF THE SITE AND IT EXCEEDS WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOMMENDS.
SO FOUR UNITS ON ONE AND A HALF AREA.
UH, ONE AND A HALF ACRES IS A LITTLE OVER THREE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
UH, UTILITIES, THE OWNERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DISPOSAL OF WASTE.
UH, OVERHEAD UTILITIES ARE LOCATED ALONG MERE STATION ROAD, UM, AND FOR TRANSPORTATION, MERE STATION ROAD IS A VDOT MAINTAINED SECONDARY ROADWAY AND I WOULD CONSIDER IT AN AVERAGE CONDITION.
UH, PUBLIC COMMENT NOTICES WERE PROVIDED IN THE NEWSPAPER AND TO ADJACENT OWNERS PER STATE LAW.
AS A PREPARATION OF THIS SLIDE DECK, NO PUBLIC COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED.
UM, STAFF FINDINGS, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IS REQUESTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR HABITATION FOR TRAVEL TRAILERS.
UH, GENERALLY TRAVEL TRAILERS DO NOT CONTRIBUTE TO A HARMONIOUS COMMUNITY AND ARE NOT DESIGNED TO BE USED AS PERMANENT RESIDENCE.
UH, NUMBER THREE, UH, THE DENSITY WILL EXCEED WHAT IS RECOMMENDED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT BASED ON TRAVEL TRAILERS NOT CONTRIBUTING TO AN ATTRACTIVE AND HARMONIOUS COMMUNITY AND TRAVEL TRAILERS NOT BEING DESIGNED TO BE LOCATED IN ONE LOCATION CONTINUOUSLY.
HOWEVER, SHOULD THE BCA GRANT, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT STAFF SUGGEST THE APPROVAL BE SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, THERE'S 10 OF THEM.
UH, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WILL BECOME NULL AND VOYAGE SHOULD THE PROPERTY BE SOLD OR TRANSFERRED.
UH, NUMBER TWO, THE APPLICANT SHALL OBTAIN ALL REQUIRED PERMITS FROM THE COUNTY'S COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
NUMBER THREE, THE APPLICANT SHALL BE IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE APPLICATION OF PLOT PLAN AS SUBMITTED.
SO THERE'S NINE, PLEASE OMIT NUMBER FOUR.
UM, NUMBER FIVE, THE APPROVAL IS ONLY FOR THE MEMBER OF THE HUNTING CLUB OR A MEDIA FAMILY MEMBER.
NUMBER SIX, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT EXPIRES TWO YEARS FROM THE DATE OF ISSUANCE PURSUANT TO SECTION 1 0 6 DASH 2 52 4 E.
NUMBER SEVEN, THE SHORT TERM RENTAL OF THESE TRAILERS IS PROHIBITED.
NUMBER EIGHT, THE PROPERTY SHALL BE PROPERLY MAINTAINED AT ALL TIMES WHILE THE TRAVEL TRAILERS ARE ON SITE.
NUMBER NINE, THE APPLICANT SHALL ALLOW THE COUNTY TO MAKE INSPECTION OF THE SITE AT ANY TIME WHILE THE SPECIAL USE PERMITT IS ACTIVE.
AND NUMBER 10, A VIOLATION OF ANY OF THESE CONDITIONS WILL RENDER THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT NULL AND VOID.
UM, OF COURSE, INSTEAD OF 10 CONDITIONS BECAUSE WE'RE OMITTING NUMBER FOUR, IT WOULD BE NINE.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'M HERE.
UH, MR. KEMP, FRANCE IS HERE AS WELL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR GIN? I HAVE A QUESTION.
WE'VE UM, HAD SEVERAL, UM, TRAVEL TRAILER APPLICATIONS BEFORE US AND I THINK I REMEMBER SOMETHING ABOUT IT AND THEY HAVE TO BE REMOVED.
UM, UM, SO I, IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY, THAT THERE, THERE ARE SEVERAL THAT ARE IN FLOOD ZONES, SO THERE'S 180 DAY LIMIT.
SO, BUT FOR THIS ONE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE, OKAY, THERE NO QUESTIONS.
IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO SHARE ANYTHING WITH US, WOULD, WOULD YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME? LARRY KEMP BRANCH JR.
DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, WHOLE TRUTH, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD ON ALL MATTERS BEFORE? YES SIR.
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHARE WITH US TODAY? UH, IT IS FOUR TRAILERS THERE.
BASICALLY ONE OF 'EM THEY DON'T EVER USE, I GUESS THEY USE THAT LIKE WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMING IN AND OUT, BUT ONLY THREE OF 'EM, THEY STAY IN.
SOME OF THESE GUYS TAKE THESE TRAILERS HOME.
THEY DON'T LIVE IN THEM SEVEN DAYS A
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WEEK.THEY DON'T LIVE IN THEM 30 DAYS.
THEY DO DECEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER AND JANUARY IS THE HUNTING TIME.
AND THAT'S FOR TURKEY AND DEER AND DUTCH OR WHATEVER.
BUT, UH, THIS IS A HUNT CLUB AND I DON'T CHARGE THEM THEM TRAILERS OR THEIR TRAILERS.
THEY CAN MOVE THEM WHEN THEY WANT.
AND I MEAN, LIKE I SAY, IT'S A VERY SMALL CLUB, BUT, UH, THEY'RE GOOD GUYS.
UH, AND THEY HAVE NO ELECTRIC.
THEY HAVE NO, WELL OR THEY WILL PUT A PORTA POTTY THERE IF NEEDED.
AND THEY, THEY SPEND THEIR MONEY TO, UH, RAW FARMS, THE CORNER MART RIGHT THERE AND BLOCKS 'EM AND UH, LIKE SAY, UH, THESE GUYS ARE MILITARY, EX-MILITARY.
TWO OF THEM GUYS IS FROM VIETNAM, A HELICOPTER PILOT, A PLANE PILOT THAT LIKE NOT MADE IT BACK.
AND THAT'S WHAT THEY LIKE TO DO IS HUNT AND SPEND THEIR TIME.
BUT THEY DO NOT STAY THERE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
THEY DON'T STAY THERE 365 DAYS A YEAR.
AND LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE GOOD PEOPLE.
AND SHE SAID, MR. RANCH, THEY'VE NEVER GIVEN ME NO TROUBLE.
THEY'VE ALWAYS HELPED ME AND TALKED TO ME AND BEFRIENDED ME BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE GOING THERE TRYING TO SURVEY AND FIND THE PROPERTY LINE, SHE, OH LORD, TELL ME YOU AIN'T GOING TO TELL THIS AND I'M GONNA HAVE NEIGHBORS.
BUT ANY QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS.
SO THE TRAILERS, THE TRAILERS MOVED? YES SIR.
THEY'VE BEEN THERE, BUT THE HUNTING CLUB'S BEEN THERE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 35 YEARS.
I'VE NEVER HAD A COMPLAINT WITH NOBODY, BUT YES SIR.
UH, ACTUALLY TWO OF THEM HAVE BEEN THERE A WHILE, BUT THE OTHER TWO HAS BEEN MOVED IN THE LAST 69 DAYS BECAUSE THEY USE THEM FOR A FAMILY TO GO OTHER PLACES.
NO, I, I'M, I'VE SEEN HIM ALL THOSE YEARS.
AND IF YOU'VE SEEN THEM THEN YOU KNOW THEM TRAILERS HAVE CHANGED.
THERE'S ONE THERE THAT, THE MAN THAT DOES THIS HOT CLUB THAT IS HIS, AND HE KEEPS IT THERE.
ANYBODY WANTS STAY THERE, THEY STAY THERE ABOUT NINE TIMES OUTTA 10 WHEN IT'S THREE OR FIVE OF 'EM THERE.
THEY GROUP UPSTANDING THREE TRAILERS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, THANK YOU.
WELL, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO, THIS IS A PERVASIVE THING THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND WE'VE, WE'VE DONE WHAT WE COULD TO ACCOMMODATE CURRENTLY, RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE THE, THE REGULATIONS ARE IN A REVISION PROCESS REGARDING THIS AND IT'S TENDING TOWARDS MAYBE A USE WITH THE TRAILERS MOVED AND THE OFF SEASON, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE THERE DURING THE HUNTING SEASON AND THEN MOVED OUT.
UM, WELL, BUT WHERE THEY SIT THERE YEAR ROUND, WELL, LIKE I SAY, I KNOW ONE OF 'EM HAS MM-HMM
AND I HAVE ADDRESSED THAT WITH HIM AND HE'S THE HEAD OVER THERE HUNT CLUB.
SO I'M ASSUMING THAT HE WILL TAKE THAT COMPLETELY OFF.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SPACE FOR LIKE YOU SAID, AT LEAST FOUR BECAUSE I MEAN, I GOT GOOD GUYS AND EVERYBODY CAN'T AFFORD TO COME DOWN HERE AND DEER HUNT AND THEN GO TO, WELL I SAY TRAILS IN, THAT'S A JOKE.
I DON'T EVEN WANT TO GET ON TRAILS IN BECAUSE THEY'RE TAKING TRAILERS AND BUILDING HOUSES OUT OF IT.
WELL THE, THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE RUN INTO IN THE PAST IS THAT THE, THE TRAILERS WERE TOO CLOSE AND THAT'S WHEN WE RAN INTO A PROBLEM WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
ALRIGHT, WELL I MEAN AS YOU SEE WHAT IT TURNED IN HERE, IT TELLS YOU HOW FAR, THE ONLY THING THE GUY MADE A MISTAKE, THESE ARE SEVEN FOOT WIDE TRAILERS.
THESE ARE NOT 8, 10, 12 FOOT OR SEVEN FOOT WIDE MM-HMM
AND I THINK THE LONGEST ONE IS SOMETHING LIKE, UH, 8 15, 20 FOOT MM-HMM
BUT I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE THEY ARE, AND DURING A ABANDONED FIELD, THAT'S WHERE THEY HAD PLANNED ON BUILDING A HOUSE.
SO I OWN THE NEXT LOT RIGHT BESIDE OF THAT ALSO.
AND I OWN ALL THE WOODS BEHIND THAT.
SO THE ONLY NEIGHBOR I GOT IS LIKE I SAID, THIS OLDER LADY AND SHE SAYS, I'VE ACTUALLY ENJOYED THEM.
YOU KNOW, SHE LOVES TO SEE 'EM HUNT, SHE LOVES FOR 'EM, COME OVER AND SAY, LOOK AT THIS.
BUT I'VE NEVER HAD ALUM COMPLAINT WHATSOEVER.
AND I DO FEEL LIKE THEY CONTRIBUTE AND THEM GOING OUT HERE KILLING DEER, THERE'S BEEN SO MANY LESS DEER HIT BY CARS.
I MEAN, WHEN I WAS YOUNG WE DIDN'T HAVE THESE HUNT CLUBS AND DEER HUNTERS LIKE IT IS, I MEAN, IT'S CUT BEAT.
THE DEERS HITTING CARS AND AUTOMOBILES.
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I'M, I'M WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU IF YOU'LL WORK WITH ME.IF I MIGHT JUST ADD ONE THING, THIS APPROVAL, IF IT GETS APPROVED, THIS APPROVAL'S FOR FOUR, IF HE WANTS TO HAVE MORE, HE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK AND GET APPROVAL FOR MORE.
SO WHAT WE'VE GOT ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW IS FOR FOUR TRAVEL TRAILERS.
JUST, JUST SO THAT'S OUT THERE.
ARE WE READY TO MAKE A MOTION? WE GOT NO MOTION.
I JUST REMEMBER THE ONE OVER THERE AT A C**K.
AND, AND, UH, HOW WE, HOW, HOW WE DEALT, DEALT WITH THAT.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT WITH, WITH THIS REVISION IS GONNA BE MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT I WAS PROPOS SAYING EARLIER MM-HMM
UM, I MEAN, WE CAN ALWAYS ADD A CONDITION TO REFLECT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST A, YOU KNOW MM-HMM
UM, ALLOW THEM TO BE THERE DURING HUNTING SEASON AND THEN OFF WHEN, NOT IN HUNTING SEASON.
BUT I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S YOUR ALL'S CALL MM-HMM
BECAUSE I AGREE WITH WHAT MR. RENT SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THESE PEOPLE COMING HERE TO THE COUNTY AND ENJOYING THE OUTDOORS AND ALL THAT AND YEP.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE SEEN THAT OUT THERE FOR 30 PLUS YEARS.
AND I KNOW IT'S THERE, BUT, SORRY, CAN I SAY ONE MORE THING? ASK THE CHAIRMAN.
I KIND OF LIKE GOT STEVE FRIGHT UP HERE, MAN.
GOT THE GENTLEMAN THAT'S HIT OVER THIS HUNT CLUB.
HE ALSO IS, UH, WHEEL AND SPORTSMAN, WOUNDED WARRIORS, FREEDOM HUNTERS AND MY HOME FARM, THE WITHS WHERE MY GRANDFATHER, WHERE MY DAD AND I GREW UP, I DON'T LEASE IT.
I NOBODY, I GIVE THAT TO THEM GUYS TO HUNT BECAUSE I KNOW I HAD PEOPLE COME, I HAD A LADY COME UP THERE WITH NO LEGS THAT COME FROM MILITARY.
I MEAN, I HAD A GENTLEMAN LAST YEAR WITH A WHEELING SPORTSMAN, NO LEGS.
AND THEY GET OUT THERE AND WHETHER THEY GET IT THERE OR NOT, THEY DON'T CARE.
IT'S ABOUT GOING OUT THERE AND HAVING SOMEWHERE TO GO.
AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS SAY AND DO.
UH, IT MEANS A LOT TO ME AND I KNOW IT MEANS A LOT TO THEM.
NO, WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS ABSOLUTELY.
BUT WE'RE TRYING TO SEEK A COMPROMISE HERE ON THIS AND TRY AND, AND IT, IT, THIS IS NOT THE ONLY ONE IN THE COUNTY.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET, GET IT UNDER AS IT COMES BEFORE US.
AND YET FOR THE MOST OF IT, NONE OF THEM GUYS GO DOWN AND STAY SEVEN, EIGHT.
AND, AND I WOULD SAY IN TWO YEARS FROM NOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, A MORE DEFINED REGULATION.
WOULD YOU SAY THAT'S PROBABLY, THAT'S A FAIR STATEMENT.
MR. RANCH, WOULD YOU PUT THE, UH, THANK YOU.
THE RECOMMENDATION, THE, THE NON RECOMMENDATIONS BACK UP AGAIN.
I THINK THAT'S JUST ON THE OTHER OH, YOU WANT CONDITIONS? YEAH.
IT EXPIRES WITHIN THE TWO YEARS.
SO THAT WILL GET US WHERE WE NEED TO BE.
SO ANOTHER CONDITION WOULD BE THE TRAILERS ARE REMOVED.
TRAILERS ARE MOVED OFFSITE WHEN, YOU KNOW DEER WHEN, WHEN DEER SEASON IS OVER.
WHICH IS DEER SEASON'S BASICALLY OCTOBER THROUGH FIRST HALF OF JANUARY AND TURKEY SEASON IS APRIL AND MAY.
SO WE WOULD ALLOW, I THINK THAT'S FAIR.
ALLOW THEM, SO THE CONDITION WOULD PROBABLY LIKE ALLOW THEM TO BE ON SITE FROM OCTOBER 1ST
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TO MAY 30TH.SO YOU READY TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION? YEAH.
YOU WANNA PUT THE RECOMMENDATION BACK UP AND THAT, THAT WOULD GIVE US 10.
THAT WOULD GIVE US 10 AGAIN TO YOUR WHOLE ONCE AGAIN.
SO I MOVE THAT TO AIMA COUNTY BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS APPROVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT PURSUANT TO AKIMA COUNTY CODE SECTION 1 0 6 DASH 5 3 1 4 TO ALLOW FOR FOUR TRAVEL TRAILERS FOR HABITATION ON TAX PARCEL 54 DASH A DASH 1 4 8 A WITH THE 10 CONDITIONS RECOMMENDED.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND.
ARE YOU GOOD? GRACE, ARE YOU GOOD? OKAY.
SO, UH, THE NEXT CASE IS UH, SUSE 0 0 0 1 7 5 20 25 IS MR. KURT MEYER.
THIS IS AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WITHOUT A PRIMARY STRUCTURE.
UH, BACKGROUND IS, UH, KURT MEYER WAS THE APPLICANT.
UH, THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE, UH, MR. MEYER AND, UH, MS. DAUGHTRY.
UM, LOCATION IS UH, 2 0 9 0 0 BAYSIDE ROAD NEAR C**K.
THIS, THIS PROPERTY IS ON BAYSIDE ROAD IN BETWEEN PARKLEY AND C**K.
AND THIS IS A TAX PARCEL NUMBER 76 B DASH A DASH FOUR.
UH, DISTRICT SIX, APPROXIMATELY ONE ACRE IN SIZE ZONE AGRICULTURAL FUTURE LAND USE IS AGRICULTURAL.
UH, THE CURRENT USE, THERE WAS A HOUSE ON IT, SO IT WAS A RESIDENTIAL USE AND THE PROPOSED USE WILL BE RESIDENTIAL.
UM, ADJACENT ZONINGS ARE AG AND ADJACENT USES ARE A COMBINATION OF, UH, VACANT LAND AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.
UH, FUTURE LAND USES AG NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE AND NOT AN RPA.
THIS IS BAYSIDE ROAD GOING BACK, NORTH BAYSIDE ROAD GOING SOUTH, LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO AN C**K.
UM, AND THESE ARE A COUPLE PICTURES OF THE SITE.
THIS IS THE, UH, THIS IS THE LOCATION OF WHERE A HOUSE USED TO BE AND THE, THE, UH, ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS GOING TO GO NOT EXACTLY WHERE THE, WHERE THE DWELLING IS, BUT A LITTLE BIT BEHIND WHERE THE DWELLING USED TO BE.
AND THAT IS THE, THAT IS THE, UH, SITE PLAN NOTING THE, THE OLD HOUSE FOOTPRINT HERE.
AND THAT'S WHAT THE, UH, ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
SO NOW WE'LL GO INTO, UH, CONSIDERATIONS FOR SPECIAL USE PERMITS.
NUMBER ONE, WHERE THE PROPOSED USE WILL ADVERSELY IMPACT THE GENERAL CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, GENERALLY ADDING AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WITHOUT A PRIMARY STRUCTURE COULD ADVERSELY IMPACT THE GENERAL CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, NUMBER TWO, WHETHER PROPOSED USE WILL ADVERSELY IMPACT PUBLIC UTILITIES.
UH, NO ADVERSE IMPACT WILL RESULT.
THE SITE HAS OVERHEAD POWER UTILITIES COURSE ALONG BAYSIDE ROAD.
UH, NUMBER THREE, WHETHER PROPOSED USE WILL FACILITATE THE PRESERVATION AND CREATION OF AN ATTRACTIVE AND HARMONIOUS COMMUNITY, UM, ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WITHOUT A PRIMARY STRUCTURE, UH, CAN ADVERSELY IMPACT THE COMMUNITY.
UH, NUMBER FOUR, WHETHER PROPOSED USE WILL ADVERSELY IMPACT THE ENVIRONMENT OR SCENIC, HISTORIC AND WATERFRONT AREAS, THE ANSWER IS NO.
UH, NO ADVERSE IMPACT WILL RESULT.
THE PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED NEAR ANY SUCH AREAS.
UH, NUMBER FIVE, WHETHER PROPOSED USE WILL ADVERSELY IMPACT PROPERTY RIGHTS AND VALUES OF ADJOINING AND NEARBY PROPERTY OWNERS.
AND THE ANSWER THERE IS THAT ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WITHOUT A PRIMARY STRUCTURE COULD ADVERSELY IMPACT THE PROPERTY VALUES NEARBY OWNERS.
UH, NUMBER SIX, WHETHER THE PROPOSED USE WILL PROMOTE THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE, UH, THIS USE WILL NEITHER HINDER NOR PROMOTE THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE.
UH, NUMBER SEVEN, WHETHER PROPOSED USE IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH GOOD ZONING PRACTICE AND WITH STATE AND LOCAL LAWS, ORDINANCES, AND REGULATIONS, THE ANSWER IS YES.
ACCESSORY STRUCTURES WITHOUT PRIMARY STRUCTURES ARE ALLOWED BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
AND NUMBER EIGHT, WHETHER GRANTING THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WITH OR WITHOUT CONDITIONS IS JUSTIFIED BY PUBLIC NECESSITY OR CONVENIENCE.
UH, THIS REQUEST HAS NO BEARING ON PUBLIC NECESSITY OR CONVENIENCE.
SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT UTILITIES.
OVERHEAD UTILITIES ARE ALONG BAYSIDE ROAD.
UM, BAYSIDE ROAD IS A VDOT MAINTAINED SECONDARY ROADWAY, AND IT IS AN AVERAGE CONDITION.
AND WE WILL GET INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, NOTICES WERE PROVIDED IN THE NEWSPAPER AND A PO LETTERS WERE ISSUED.
AND AS OF THIS SLIDE DECK, WE HAD, UH,
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ONE PUBLIC COMMENT IN FAVOR AND THAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU.STAFF FINDINGS, THE APPLICANT TENDS TO CONSTRUCT AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY.
UH, THE PROPERTY DOES NOT HAVE A PRIMARY STRUCTURE AND WILL REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND NO ADVERSE IMPACT TO THE SURROUNDING AREA IS ANTICIPATED.
THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF SUSE 0 0 0 1 7 5 20 25.
UM, IF THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS APPROVES THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WE RECOMMEND THE FOLLOWING FOUR CONDITIONS.
UH, NUMBER ONE, THE APPLICANT SHALL OBTAIN ALL REQUIRED PERMITS FROM THE COUNTY'S COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
NUMBER TWO, THE APPLICANT SHALL BE IN COMP IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE APPLICATION AND PLOT PLAN AS SUBMITTED.
NUMBER THREE, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH THE RELEVANT VDOT AND VDH REGULATIONS.
AND NUMBER FOUR, A VIOLATION OF ANY OF THESE CONDITIONS.
WE'LL RENDER THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT NULL AND VOID.
THAT IS THE MOTION I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
ALSO, UH, MR. MYERS HERE AS WELL, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM.
I'VE GOT, UM, SO I ASSUME THERE'S NO WELL IN SEPTIC INVOLVED WITH THIS.
MY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE IS AT LEAST A, WELL, UM, THERE IS A, AND MAYBE MR. MEYER CAN SHED SOME LIGHT ON IT.
ON MY SITE VISIT WALL, I DID NOT SEE A SEPTIC TANK AND DRAIN FIELD.
I DID SEE LIKE AN OUTSIDE, LIKE SERVICE.
WELL, UM, SO IT DOES APPEAR THAT THERE IS WATER ON THE SITE.
WE, I HAVE NO IDEA IF IT'S ADEQUATE FOR A STRUCTURE OR NOT.
THAT WOULD BE A HEALTH DEPARTMENT QUESTION WHEN WE GET THERE.
BUT MR. MEYER MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION BETTER THAN ME.
'CAUSE I NOTICED THE DOOR ON THERE.
WELL, SO FOR, FOR US, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
IF HE WANTS TO COME BACK AND TURN TO A HOUSE LATER, THEN HE IS GOTTA COMPLY WITH, YOU KNOW, SANITATION REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IS A COMBINATION OF BUILDING CODE AND I THINK HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
BUT IF HE WAS BUILDING A A HOUSE, IF HE WAS BUILDING A HOUSE, HE WOULD NEED THE WELL AND SEPTIC.
RIGHT, BUT I MEAN, HE WOULDN'T BE BEFORE US, CORRECT? IT'D BE, UH, THE HOUSE WOULD BE USED BY, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.
NO, THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SHARE ANYTHING.
ARE WE READY FOR A MOTION? OKAY, I MOVE THAT ACT COUNTY BOARD OF ZONE APPEALS APPROVE, SUSE 0 0 0 1 7 5 2 0 2 5.
SPECIAL USE PERMIT FACILITY TO ACK COUNTY CODE 1 0 6 DASH 53 27 FOR A USE OF LAND NOT SPECIFICALLY LISTED AS A USE PERMIT BY RIGHT OR SPECIAL EXCEPTION, SPECIAL USE IN THE AGRICULTURE DISTRICT REG REGULATIONS, WHICH IS CLEARLY SIMILAR AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE USES LISTED THEREIN FOR PARCEL 76 B DASH A DASH FOUR WITH THE FOUR CONDITIONS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF SECOND.
IF I COULD JUST GET ONE MINUTE SO I CAN EXPLAIN NEXT STEPS WITH HIM.
WE'LL TAKE A, A BRIEF 2, 2 5 MINUTE BREAK.
WHAT PROCESS IS OKAY? THANK YOU.
I'M, I'M WITHOUT, I'M WITHOUT PAUL TODAY, SO THAT, THAT WON'T BRIEF.
SO NEXT UP WE HAVE A VARIANCE.
VINAY, UH, AND THIS IS A REAR SETBACK VARIANCE IN THE AG DISTRICT.
UM, APPLICANT, THE OWNER, UM, TAMIA ANTONIO VENE, UH, LOCATION IS 1 3 1 6 3 BETHEL CHURCH ROAD AND IT'S TAX PARCEL 54 DASH THREE DASH ONE ELECTION DISTRICT FIVE.
THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE.
UM, THE ZONING IS AGRICULTURAL AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE ASKING FOR A REAR SETBACK VARIANCE.
FUTURE LAND USE RECOMMENDATIONS AG, UH, CURRENT PROPOSED USES, UH, RESIDENTIAL BEFORE, IT'LL BE RESIDENTIAL AFTER.
UM, ADJACENT ZONING IS AGRICULTURAL ADJACENT USES WOULD BE A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING AND VACANT FARMLAND.
SO THIS IS THE SITE RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS, UH, BETHEL CHURCH ROAD ZONED AG.
FUTURE LAND USE IS ALSO AG, UH, NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE, NOT IN RPA.
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SOME PICTURES OF THE SITE.THIS IS BETHEL CHURCH ROAD GOING NORTH, AND THIS IS BETHEL CHURCH ROAD GOING SOUTH PICTURE OF THE HOUSE.
AND THIS IS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE DWELLING OR OF THE ADDITION, WHICH WAS GOING IN THE REAR OF THE, OF THE DWELLING.
THIS IS A LITTLE BETTER SITE PLAN, KIND OF SHOWING A 23 FEET FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE.
BETHEL CHURCH ROAD IS ON THIS SIDE RIGHT HERE.
SO, CONSIDERATIONS FOR VARIANCE APPLICATIONS.
UH, NUMBER ONE, STRICT APPLICATION SLASH UNREASONABLE RESTRICTION VERSUS ALLEVIATING HARDSHIP FROM A PHYSICAL CONDITION.
THE SIZE OF FOOTPRINT OF THE ADDITION COULD BE ADJUSTED SO THAT A VARIANCE IS NOT REQUIRED.
UH, NUMBER TWO, GOOD FAITH ACQUISITION AND NOT A SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP.
THE SIZE AND THE SIZE AND SHAPE OF THE ADDITION COULD BE ADJUSTED.
SO IT MEETS THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.
NUMBER THREE, SUBSTANTIAL DETRIMENT TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
THE SETBACK VARIANCE WILL REPLACE THE STRUCTURE CLOSER TO NEIGHBORING RESIDENTIAL PARCELS.
UM, NUMBER FOUR, GENERAL OR RECURRING NATURE TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO ALLEVIATE THE SITUATION.
UH, NO, THIS REQUEST IS SPECIFIC TO THIS CASE.
NUMBER FIVE, RESULTED IN USE NOT OTHERWISE PERMITTED.
UH, NO, THE USE OF THE PROPERTY FOR A RESIDENTIAL HOME WOULD NOT BE AFFECTED.
AND NUMBER SIX IS THE REMEDY SOUGHT AVAILABLE THROUGH SPECIAL EXEMPTION OF THE ANSWER IS NO.
UM, A DWELLING IS A USE BY RIGHT IN AG OVERHEAD.
UTILITIES ARE LOCATED ALONG BETHEL CHURCH.
UH, BETHEL CHURCH ROAD IS A STATE MAINTAINS SECONDARY ROADWAY IS AN AVERAGE CONDITION, OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE IT'S A DWELLING, THEY DO HAVE WELL AND SEPTIC ON THE SITE.
CURRENTLY, UM, NOTICES WERE PROVIDED IN THE NEWSPAPER AND TO ADJACENT OWNERS PER STATE LAW.
AS A PREPARATION OF THIS REPORT, NO PUBLIC COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED.
I DID RECEIVE ONE PHONE CALL FROM SOMEBODY JUST WANTING GENERAL INFORMATION.
ONCE THEY KNEW ABOUT THE PROJECT, THEY WERE FINE WITH IT.
UM, STAFF FINDINGS, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO BUILD AN ADDITION THAT IS 23 FEET FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE.
A VARIANCE IS REQUIRED FOR THE ENCROACHMENT INTO THE REAR SETBACK OF 35 FEET, AND THE ADDITION COULD BE ALTERED SO THAT A VARIANCE IS NOT REQUIRED.
UH, STAFF DOES NOT USUALLY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR VARIANCE CASES, HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT HAS NOT MET THE THRESHOLD OF APPROVAL FOR THE VARIANCE.
HOWEVER, SHOULD THE BCA APPROVE THE VARIANCE STAFF RECOMMENDS THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
UM, THE APPLICANT SHALL OBTAIN ALL REQUIRED PERMITS FROM THE COUNTY'S COMMUNITY IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
UH, NUMBER TWO, THE APPLICANT SHALL BE IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE APPLICATION AND PLOT PLAN AS SUBMITTED.
UH, NUMBER THREE, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH THE RELEVANT VDOT AND HEALTH DEPARTMENT REGULATIONS.
NUMBER FOUR, THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE A SURVEY OF THE SITE SHOWING THE PROPERTY CORNERS AND THE PROPOSED FOOTPRINT OF THE STRUCTURE.
THIS SURVEY MUST BE STAKED IN CERTIFIED BY A LICENSED SURVEYOR.
AND NUMBER FIVE, A VIOLATION OF ANY OF THESE CONDITIONS SHALL RENDER THE, UH, VARIANCE NON SPECIAL USE PERMIT NULL AND VOID.
THAT IS THE MOTION I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
I THINK, UH, MR. MRS. BONAIR HERE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM.
WHEN, WHEN WERE THESE LOTS CREATED, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY WERE MORE THAN LIKELY CREATED LATE SEVENTIES, EARLY EIGHTIES.
SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, CINDY.
UM, THE INFORMATION THAT YOU GAVE US SAYS THAT THE ADDITION COULD GO IN ANOTHER AREA WITHOUT THE VARIANCE.
SO WOULD THAT BE ON THE SIDE, YOU THINK? OR IT COULD EITHER BE ON THE SIDE OR IT COULD BE IN THE FRONT.
YEAH, THE SIDE DISTANCE, IT'S ON, YEAH.
9 92 FEET ON ONE SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND 50 FEET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
IT COULD GO ON THE SIDE, IT COULD ALSO GO IN THE REAR.
I DO KNOW THAT, UM, THE ADDITION IS GOING TO BE, I BELIEVE, AND, AND THE APPLICANT CAN EXPLAIN THIS BETTER THAN ME, BUT THE ADDITION IS GOING THERE BECAUSE THERE'S A, IT'S BASICALLY A BEDROOM ADDITION.
SO THERE COULD BE A REASON WHY THEY WANT IT ON THAT PARTICULAR SIDE.
BUT STRICT APPLICATION OF THE VARIANCE, THEY COULD PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
I BELIEVE THEY MENTIONED MO SOMETHING ABOUT A TREE THERE IN THE SITE VISIT.
I DO REMEMBER THERE BEING A TREE SOMEWHAT CLOSE TO THAT SIDE OF THE HOUSE TO THE SIDE AND NOT THE BACK TO THE, TO THE SIDE, NOT THE BACK.
AND WHAT, WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE LOT? WELL, SO A 0.75 ACRES.
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SO AN ACRES 4 3 5 60.SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY LIKE 30, 35,000 SQUARE FOOT LINE.
THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR SEIN.
IF THE APPLICANT WISHES TO SHARE ANYTHING WITH US, YOU CAN COME FORWARD.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY.
ARE WE READY TO MAKE A MOTION? I AM.
I MOVE TO ACK COUNTY BOARD OF UNDER APPEALS APPROVES VARIANCE 0 0 0 0 9 5 DASH 2 0 2 6 OF VARIANCE OF 12 FEET FROM THE 35 FOOT REAR SETBACK REQUIREMENT PURSUANT TO AKIMA COUNTY SECTION 1 0 6 DASH FIVE EIGHT B ON TAX PARCEL FIVE FOUR DASH THREE DASH ONE WITH THE FIVE CONDITIONS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
I SECOND PROPERLY MOVE TO SECOND.
IF YOU COULD JUST GIMME ONE SECOND.
I NEED TO, I I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, JAN PROCTOR'S GONNA COME UP AT THE END TO TALK ABOUT SOME THINGS SHE NEEDED A LITTLE BIT AHEAD TIME TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE.
I'M JUST GONNA KNOCK ON OUR DOOR REAL QUICK.
AND, AND ONCE YOUR CASE IS DONE, IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE, YOU CAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAY.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN STAY IF YOU WANT TO.
LAST CASE WE HAVE FOR TODAY IS, UH, MS. SELLER.
THIS IS SUSE 0 0 0 0 8 5 20 26 AND VARIANCE 0 0 0 0 9 7 20 26.
THIS IS AN ACCESSORY DWELLING WITH VARIANCES, UM, THE APPLICANT OR THE OWNER, MS. SELLER.
UH, THE LOCATION IS 41 DASH A DASH 84 A OR, UH, 2 9 5 5 0 SAX ROAD.
UH, ELECTION DISTRICT IS DISTRICT THREE.
ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 1.3 ACRES.
UH, THE ZONING IS AGRICULTURAL.
THE REQUEST IS FOR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING.
FUTURE LAND USE RECOMMENDATION IS RESIDENTIAL PROPOSED DENSITY.
UH, CURRENT PROPOSED USES ARE BOTH RESIDENTIAL IN NATURE.
ADJACENT ZONINGS ARE AGRICULTURAL, COMMERCIAL, AND INDUSTRIAL ADJACENT USES ARE RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, AND, UH, VACANT IN NATURE.
SO, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT GOING ON, I'M JUST GONNA EXPLAIN THE BACKGROUND REAL QUICK.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT PURSUANT TO AAC CODE SECTION 1 0 6 DASH 53 22 FOR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING ON LOTS WITH A MINIMUM OF AREA OF FIVE ACRES OR ON NONCONFORMING LOTS WITH A MINIMUM AREA OF 60,000 SQUARE FEET RECORDED IN THE LAND RECORDS AS OF JUNE 28TH, 2006.
FURTHER, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE OF 104 FEET FROM THE 140 FOOT SETBACK DISTANCE FOR MULTIPLE DWELLINGS PER ACMA COUNTY CODE SECTION 1 0 6 2 38.
FURTHER, THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A VARIANCE OF 256 SQUARE FEET FROM THE 1200 SQUARE FOOT MAXIMUM FOR ACCESSORY DWELLINGS FOUND IN AKIMA COUNTY CODE SECTION 1 0 6 1.
FURTHER, THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A VARIANCE OF 1,396 SQUARE FEET FROM THE 60,000 SQUARE FOOT REQUIREMENT FOR LOT SIZE FOUND IN MATIC CODE SECTION 1 0 6 53 22 OF, OF COURSE, THE APPLICANT WISHED TO REPLACE AN EXISTING SINGLE WIDE HOME WITH A DOUBLE WIDE HOME.
AND WE WILL GET INTO THE SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS THAT IN A SECOND.
SO THIS IS TEMPERANCE FIELD ROAD LIKE YOU'RE GOING TOWARDS, UH, SANFORD VILLE ROAD GOING BACK TOWARDS VILLE.
THESE ARE THE TWO SINGLE WIDES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON SITE.
UH, THE, THE LIGHT FOR TEMPER PRINCEVILLE IS OVER IN THIS DIRECTION RIGHT HERE.
PROPERTY ZONE AG, FUTURE LAND USE RECOMMENDATION IS RESIDENTIAL, NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE, NOT IN RPA.
AND THEN THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.
WE SHOW THE EXISTING SINGLE-WIDE BEING REPLACED WITH A, WITH A DOUBLE WIDE MANUFACTURED HOME, UM, BEING THAT IT'S LARGER THAN WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY THERE.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE ASKING FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING.
UM, IT ALSO SHOWS, UM, SETBACK, DIFFERE, AND THE DISTANCE FROM, UH, TRAILER ONE.
UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IN THIS CASE, WHILE WE ARE ASKING FOR SETBACK VARIANCES BETWEEN HOUSE ONE AND HOUSE TWO, NO VARIANCES FOR FRONT SIDE OR REAR ARE REQUIRED.
THESE ARE SOME PICTURES OF THE MANUFACTURED HOME.
COULD, COULD YOU REVIEW THE, ABOUT THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AGAIN? ACCESSORY DWELLING? YES.
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D.SO THAT'S THE ACCESSORY DWELLING RIGHT THERE.
UH, THERE'S LIKE A LITTLE LINE HERE WHERE WE HAVE A SINGLE WIDE, THEY'RE REPLACING THAT SINGLE WIDE WITH A DOUBLE WIDE AND IT'S, AND IT'S OUTSIDE.
IT'S STILL AN ACCESSORY DWELL, STILL AN ACCESSORY DWELLING.
IT IS OUTSIDE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE SINGLE WIDE.
IF IT WAS REPLACING A SINGLE WIDE WITH ANOTHER SINGLE WIDE, WE HAVE CODE PROVISIONS THAT HANDLE THAT.
UH, IT'S CALLED RESTORATION REPLACEMENT.
UM, OUR FEELING WAS THAT SINCE THIS IS GOING OUTSIDE OF THE FOOTPRINT OF THE ORIGINAL SINGLE WIDE, THAT WE WOULD NEED TO COME HERE.
SO NOW WE'LL GO INTO, UH, CONSIDERATIONS FOR SPECIAL USE PERMITS.
UH, NUMBER ONE, WHETHER PROPOSED USE WILL ADVERSELY IMPACT THE GENERAL CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE PROPOSED USE IS FOR A RESIDENTIAL ACCESSORY DWELLING.
OTHER DWELLINGS ARE PRESENT IN THE AREA.
UH, NUMBER TWO, WHETHER PROPOSED USE WILL ADVERSELY IMPACT PUBLIC UTILITIES.
THE ANSWER IS, UH, NO UTILITIES ARE OVERHEAD.
OTHERWISE, THE PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED NEAR ANY UTILITIES.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE IS WELL AND SEPTIC ON THE SITE.
UH, NUMBER THREE, WHETHER PROPOSED USE WILL FACILITATE THE PRESERVATION AND CREATION OF AN ATTRACTIVE HARMONIOUS COMMUNITY.
UH, NO DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS ARE ANTICIPATED.
THERE WAS AN EXISTING SINGLE WIDE ON THE PROPERTY.
WHILE THE REPLACEMENT IS A DOUBLE WIDE, NO CHANGES TO THE SURROUNDING AREA OR, UM, THE COMMUNITY IS ANTICIPATED.
LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IF THIS WAS ONE DWELLING, IT WOULD MEET THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR FRONT, SIDE AND REAR.
UM, NUMBER FOUR, WHETHER PROPOSED USE WILL ADVERSELY IMPACT THE ENVIRONMENT OR SCENIC, HISTORIC AND WATERFRONT AREAS.
THE ANSWER THERE IS, UH, NO ADVERSE IMPACT IS ANTICIPATED AS THE PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED NEAR ANY OF THOSE AREAS.
NUMBER FIVE, WHETHER PROPOSED USE WILL ADVERSELY IMPACT PROPERTY RIGHTS AND VALUES OF ADJOINING AND NEARBY PROPERTY OWNERS.
UH, NO ADVERSE IMPACT IS ANTICIPATED.
NUMBER SIX, WHERE PROPOSED USE WILL PROMOTE THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND GENERAL WELFARE.
UM, THIS STRUCTURE WILL NEITHER HINDER NOR PROMOTE THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE.
UH, NUMBER SEVEN, WHETHER THE PROPOSED USE IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH GOOD ZONING PRACTICE AND WITH STATE AND LOCAL LAWS, ORDINANCES, AND REGULATIONS, THE ANSWER IS YES.
ACCESSORY DWELLING, SUCH AS THESE ARE ALLOWED BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT, THE APPLICANT IS ALSO APPLYING FOR VARIANCES TO ALLOW FOR THIS USE.
WHETHER GRANTING THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WITH OR WITHOUT CONDITIONS IS JUSTIFIED BY PUBLIC NECESSITY OR CONVENIENCE, UH, THE ANSWER IS NO.
THIS USE HAS NO BEARING ON PUBLIC NECESSITY OR CONVENIENCE.
AND I WE'LL GET INTO THE VARIANCE PORTION.
UH, NUMBER ONE, STRICT APPLICATION SLASH UNREASONABLE RESTRICTION VERSUS ALLEVIATING HARDSHIP FROM A PHYSICAL CONDITION.
THE LACK OF AN ACCESSORY DWELLING DOES NOT UNREASONABLY RESTRICT THE UTILIZATION OF THE PROPERTY.
GOOD FAITH APP ACQUISITION SLASH NOT A SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP.
THE OWNER COULD REPLACE THE EXISTING SINGLE WIDE WITH ANOTHER SINGLE WIDE IN THE SAME FOOTPRINT.
UM, IT IS THE APPLICANT'S DECISION TO REPLACE A SINGLE WIDE, WITH A DOUBLE WIDE, UH, NUMBER THREE, SUBSTANTIAL DETRIMENT TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
THE ACCESSORY DWELLING MEETS FRONT SIDE, REAR AND HEIGHT REGULATIONS IN AGRICULTURAL ZONING, NO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WILL BE AFFECTED.
UM, NUMBER FOUR, GENERAL OR RECURRING ENOUGH IN NATURE TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE.
THIS CONDITION OF THE APPLICATION IS SPECIFIC TO THIS CASE.
UH, NUMBER FIVE, RESULT IN A USE NOT OTHERWISE PERMITTED.
UH, NO ACCESSORY DWELLINGS ARE ALLOWED BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND AGRICULTURAL ZONING, WHICH IS ALSO BEING APPLIED FOR HERE.
UH, NUMBER SIX IS THE REMEDY SOUGHT AVAILABLE THROUGH SPECIAL EXEMPTION.
THE ANSWER THERE FOR THE VARIANCE PART IS, UH, NO, THERE ARE NO OTHER ALTERNATIVES AVAILABLE TO HANDLE THE REQUEST.
ELECTRIC UTILITIES ARE LOCATED ALONG SSIS ROAD.
UM, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S WELL AND SEPTIC ALREADY ON THE PROPERTY.
THE SINGLE WIDES ARE BOTH BEING USED AT THIS TIME.
UH, SIST ROAD IS A VDOT MAINTAINED SECONDARY ROADWAY.
WHEN WE GET INTO PUBLIC COMMENTS, UH, NOTICES WERE SENT TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS AND OF THE NEWSPAPER PER STATE LAW.
AS A PREPARATION OF THIS REPORT, NO PUBLIC COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED.
I DID RECEIVE, LIKE WITH THE OTHER CASES, I HAVE RECEIVED, YOU KNOW, PHONE CALLS ASKING FOR GENERAL INFORMATION, BUT THAT'S IT.
UH, STAFF FINDINGS, THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND MULTIPLE VARIANCES TO BUILD AND ACCESSORY DWELLING ON THEIR LOT.
UH, THE SU THE STRUCTURE REQUIRES A VARIANCE FOR BOTH PLACEMENT STRUCTURE, SIZE, AND LOT SIZE.
AND A DOUBLE WIDE MANUFACTURING HOME IS REPLACING A SINGLE WIDE MANUFACTURED HOME.
SO AS FAR AS THE UM, SPECIAL USE PERMIT PART, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF SUSE 0 0 0 0 8 5 20 26 FOR ACCESSORY DWELLINGS ON LOTS WITH A MINIMUM AREA OF FIVE ACRES
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OR ON NONCONFORMING LOTS WITH A MINIMUM AREA OF 60,000 SQUARE FEET.UH, FOR THE VARIANCE SECTION, STAFF DOES NOT NORMALLY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON VARIANCE CASES.
HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT HAS NOT MET THE THRESHOLD OF APPROVAL FOR THE VARIANCE.
HOWEVER, IF THE BCA WISHES TO GRANT THE SPECIAL USE PERMITT VARIANCES STAFF RECOMMENDS THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
UM, THE APPLICANT SHALL OBTAIN ALL REQUIRED PERMITS FROM THE COUNTY'S COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
NUMBER TWO, THE APPLICANT SHALL BE IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE APPLICATION AND PLOT PLAN AS SUBMITTED.
NUMBER THREE, THE APPLICANT SHALL COMPLY WITH THE RELEVANT VDOT AND HEALTH DEPARTMENT REGULATIONS.
UH, NUMBER FOUR, THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE A SURVEY OF THE SITE SHOWING THE PROPERTY COS AND THE PROPOSED FOOTPRINT OF THE STRUCTURE.
THE SURVEY MUST BE STAKED AND LICENSED BY, BY A LICENSED SURVEYOR.
UM, FOR THIS CASE, WE WOULD TAKE WHAT WAS SUBMITTED AND HAVE THE SURVEYOR GO OUT AND STAKE IT OUT SO WE CAN CONFIRM.
UM, NUMBER FIVE, THE SITE SHALL BE PROPERLY MAINTAINED AT ALL TIMES UNTIL A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS ISSUED.
NUMBER SIX, THE APPLICANT SHALL ALLOW THE COUNTY TO MAKE INSPECTIONS OF THE SITE AT ANY TIME UNTIL A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS ISSUED.
AND NUMBER SEVEN, A VIOLATION OF ANY OF THESE CONDITIONS SHALL RENDER THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND VARIANCE, NULL AND VOID.
I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
UH, MS. SELLER'S HERE ALSO, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HER, PLEASE ASK QUESTION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO GIVE THE BOARD A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS PROPERTY.
BACK IN THE NINETIES, WAL GOLDMAN APPLIED FOR A FOUR UNIT MOBILE HOME PARK.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER OR NOT, BUT ANYWAY, THE BOARD DID NOT APPROVE FOUR UNITS.
SO, UM, THEREFORE THAT'S WHY THE TWO UNITS ARE THERE THAT CLOSE.
BACK THEN, I DON'T BELIEVE THE ACCESSORY DWELLING CLAUSE OR, YOU KNOW, WAS IN, YOU KNOW, THE ORDINANCE.
SO THIS TWO STRUCTURES HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS.
UM, SO I DON'T, SO, SO, UH, UH, THIS IS A REPLACEMENT.
IT'S, IT'S A REPLACEMENT IN THE SENSE IT, THIS IS JUST MY THOUGHTS ON IT.
IT'S A REPLACEMENT IN THE SENSE OF IT'S ANOTHER DWELLING, REPLACING A DWELLING, BUT IT'S A DOUBLE WIDE REPLACING A SINGLE WIDE, THAT'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE THAT I SEE.
AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, I GUESS, YEAH, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS, IS LARGER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR GIN? DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO SPEAK? OKAY.
ARE WE READY TO MAKE A MOTION? I MOVE TO ACK COUNTY BOARD ZONING APPEALS APPROVE AS USE 0 0 0 0 85 DASH 2 26.
SPECIAL USE PERMIT PURSUANT TO
DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT? SECOND.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THE, WE SHOULD PROBABLY READ THE, READ THE SECOND VARIANCE TOO.
YEAH, DO THE VARIANCE AS WELL.
I MOVE THAT ACK COUNTY BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS APPROVED VARIANCE 0 0 0 0 9 7 DASH 2026 FOR A VARIANCE OF 104 FEET FROM THE 140 FOOT SETBACK DISTANCE FROM MULTIPLE DWELLING PER ACK COUNTY CODE 1 0 6 DASH 2 38, A VARIANCE OF 256 SQUARE FEET FROM THE TWO 1200 SQUARE FOOT MAXIMUM FOR ACCESSORY DWELLINGS FOUND IN ACK COUNTY COUNTY CODE SECTION 1 0 6 DASH ONE AND A VARIANCE OF 1,396 SQUARE FEET FROM THE 6,000 SQUARE FEET REQUIREMENT FOR A LOT SIZE FOUND IN ABA COUNTY CODE SECTION 1 0 6 DASH 53 22 ON TAX PARCEL 41 DASH A DASH 84 A WITH THE SEVEN CONDITIONS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
OKAY, SO THAT IS THE END OF PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, I JUST HAVE TWO THINGS BEFORE I HAND THE MIC OVER TO JAN.
UM, NEXT MONTH WE'RE GONNA BE BRINGING YOU,
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UM, A VOTE FOR ADOPT ADOPTION OF THE RULES OF PROCEDURE.THIS WOULD INCLUDE THE, UM, ADOPTION OF THE REMOTE PARTICIPATION POLICY.
BEST WE CAN FIGURE IS WE BROUGHT THAT TO YOU GUYS AND THEN NEVER ACTUALLY HAD YOU VOTE ON IT.
SO WE'RE GONNA, AT NEXT MONTH'S MEETING, WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON IT.
UM, AND THEN ALSO, UM, THE BZA HAS NOT ELECTED A SECRETARY.
UM, SO NEXT MONTH WE WOULD TALK ABOUT ELECTING A SECRETARY FOR BZA.
THAT CAN BE A MEMBER OF THE BOARD.
WE'LL MAKE THAT DECISION NEXT MONTH.
UM, WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE JAN COME BEFORE US TODAY.
GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
IT'LL BE HELPFUL IF YOU ELECT A SECRETARY AND THEN THE CHAIRMAN WON'T HAVE TO RUN DOWN TO THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING EVERY OTHER DAY TO BE SIGNING THINGS.
UM, I'M HERE TO OUTLINE THE THREE APPEALS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO YOUR DECISIONS.
UM, I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF WHICH ONES THEY ARE.
THE FIRST ONE BEING SCOUT STORAGE.
THE BOARD HAD UPHELD THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DETERMINATION THAT THE CUP FOR THE BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM ON ROUTE 1 75 HAD EXPIRED AS OF JULY 20TH, 2025.
IT'S NO SURPRISE THAT THE, THE OWNERS OF, OF THE PROJECT DID APPEAL THAT TO THE CIRCUIT COURT, AS IS THEIR RIGHT.
THEY ALSO ASKED THE COURT FOR A TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER, WHICH THE COURT GRANTED.
UH, WITHOUT GIVING US A HEARING OR ANY CHANCE TO RESPOND, I DID FILE A MOTION WITH THE COURT ASKING THAT THEY RECONSIDER THE ISSUANCE OF THE TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER.
UH, BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM THE COURT ON THAT MOTION.
THAT IS WHY YOU SEE THE WORK TAKING PLACE ON SITE BECAUSE THE COURT HAS ENTERED AN ORDER THAT ALLOWS THEM TO CONTINUE CONSTRUCTION.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? THAT ONE YOU HAVE ALREADY FILED A RETURN TO AND THAT'S THE B Z'S ONLY DUTY IN THESE APPEALS.
YOU ARE SERVED WITH THE PROCESS, BUT YOUR RESPONSE IS, HERE ARE OUR PAPERS AND THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE TO DO WITH THE APPEAL.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO REALLY WORRY ABOUT THESE, BUT WE WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED OF HOW THEY'RE GOING.
THE SECOND ONE IS NKM PROPERTIES.
AS YOU RECALL, THIS WAS A COUPLE OF, A FEW MONTHS BACK, THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR HAD DETERMINED THAT THE HOUSE BUILT ON TALL PINES ROAD, OR RECONSTRUCTED REMODELED ON TALL PINES ROAD HAD, WAS IN NEED OF BEING LIFTED UNDER THE FLOOD ZONE ORDINANCE.
AND THE BOARD UPHELD THAT DETERMINATION BASED ON THE PLAIN LANGUAGE OF THE STATUTE OR THE ORDINANCE.
AND THIS WAS APPEALED IN A VERY STRANGE MANNER.
THE APPEAL WAS MIXED UP WITH A, A REQUEST FOR RESTRAINING ORDER ON AN ADMINISTRATIVE INSPECTION WARRANT.
SO IT'S NOT REALLY BEEN PERFECTED UNTIL NOW.
THEY HAVE SERVED THE COUNTY AND THEY HAVE SERVED THE BZA.
WE'VE BOTH WAIVED SERVICE CHAIRMAN MILLER CAME IN THIS MORNING TO WAIVE SERVICE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT THING TO DO IN THESE KIND OF CASES.
SO AT THIS POINT, WHAT WE WILL DO IS FILE THE PAPERS AND I'M SORRY MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU'LL HAVE TO COME OUT AND SWEAR THAT THEY'RE CORRECT AND SO FORTH.
THEN YOU'RE DONE WITH THAT ONE.
AND WE WILL GO AHEAD AND HANDLE THE APPEAL.
UH, IT WILL, IT WILL BE A STRANGE APPEAL.
I DO, I DO AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE OF THE IRREGULAR PROCEDURES THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THE COURTHOUSE.
UH, SECONDLY, NKM HAS FILED AN APPEAL OF YOUR DENIAL OF THE VARIANCE REQUEST FROM THAT SAME CODE SECTION THAT REQUIRES THAT THE, THE HOUSE BE LIFTED FOR FLOOD ZONE PURPOSES.
UH, THE COUNTY WAIVE SERVICE, THE BOARD WAIVE SERVICE STAFF WILL BE HELPING US GATHER THE DOCUMENTS.
CHAIRMAN MILLER WILL COME OUT AND SWEAR THAT THEY'RE CORRECT.
WE'LL FILE THEM WITH THE COURT.
AND THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE TO DO.
WE WILL HANDLE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WHICH DOES NOT REPRESENT THE BCA.
WE WILL HANDLE THE MERITS OF THE DECISIONS AND KEEP YOU INFORMED AS TO HOW THAT IS GOING.
MEAN MEANWHILE, IF THEY HAD JUST GOTTEN A BUILDING PERMIT BEFORE DOING ANYTHING, NONE OF THIS WOULD BE, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SCOUT STORAGE? NO, NO.
THE NK OH, HAD THEY COMPLIED WITH THE ORDINANCE? ABSOLUTELY.
WE WOULDN WOULDN'T BE IN THIS PLACE.
STARTED WITHOUT A BUILDING PERMIT.
WE DIDN'T GET A BUILDING PERMIT.
IF SCOUT STORAGE HAD RENEWED THEIR CUP, WE WOULDN'T BE IN THIS PLACE.
BUT WELL, YEAH, I UH, I GET THAT ONE.
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BUT THE EVERYTHING WAS DONE WITHOUT A BUILDING PERMIT.THEN THEY WOULD'VE KNOWN ABOUT THE FLOOD ZONE REQUIREMENTS AND HOPEFULLY WOULD HAVE COMPLIED WITH THEM.
I BELIEVE THEY DID KNOW ABOUT THE ZONING.
I DON'T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE ABOUT THAT.
BUT, BUT YES, THEY CERTAINLY KNOW NOW.
THEY DO TRY TO RESIST AND THEY DID TRY TO, UM, PUT THE PROPERTY ON AIRBNB OR VRBO ONE OF THOSE AND STAFF, UH, AND MAKE SURE THAT DID HAPPEN.
SIT IN THE HEARING, YOU KNOW, SCOUT STORAGE WHEN THAT COMPANY TOOK IT OVER, THAT FROM THE DAY THEY GOT IT, THEY SHOULD HAVE APPEALED FOR EXTENDING THE CUP QUICK.
CERTAINLY
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THERE ARE NO OTHER STAFF REPORTS.
DO WE HAVE, UH, OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE SEPTEMBER THE SECOND, 2026.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO SECOND.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.