[Joint Work Session of the Board of Supervisors and the Planning Commission on the Comprehensive Plan on October 27, 2026.]
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OKAY, I CALL THIS MEETING OF THE ECAC, I MEAN THE WORK SESSION AAC, AKIMA COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION ORDER.
WE HAVE A QUORUM AND WE, UH, MOVE TO, UH, AJOT THE AGENDA AS WRITTEN.
AND WE'LL HAND THE MISS MEETING BACK OVER TO YOU, MS. MAJORS AND I MEETING FACILITATOR.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND MADAM CHAIR.
UH, LEE, PAM, THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AND I'M JUST GONNA MAKE SOME REALLY BRIEF INTRODUCTORY REMARKS AND THEN, UH, AND THEN TURN THIS OVER TO THE BERKELEY GROUP.
BUT, UH, TONIGHT WE START TALKING ABOUT ACTUAL ISSUES.
AS YOU SEE IN YOUR AGENDA, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION, COMMUNITY, FACILITIES, SERVICES, AND, UH, COMMUNITY FACILITIES AND SERVICES AND UTILITIES.
SO, AS YOU, AS YOU GO THROUGH THE MATERIALS, YOU START TO SEE SOME OF THE, UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ALL ALONG, UH, IN TERMS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY PUBLIC UTILITIES.
UM, UH, TRANSPORTATION IS ALSO VERY, UH, UH, UH, VERY RECOGNIZABLE AS AN ISSUE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE SMART SCALE APPLICATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN DEVELOPING AND THE PDCS GOING THROUGH A, UH, SAFETY ACTION PLAN.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, IN TERMS OF THE FORMAT TONIGHT, UH, THE BERKELEY GROUP WILL BE GOING THROUGH AND, UM, FLIPPING THROUGH SOME OF THE SLIDES IN TERMS OF, UH, UH, GOALS AND OBJECTIVES.
BUT IN TERMS OF STRATEGIES, UH, THERE WILL BE, THOSE WILL BE DISCUSSED IN, IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT, UM, THAT YOU WANT US TO, UH, EXPOUND ON, OR IF YOU WANT US TO SPEED IT UP A LITTLE, DEFINITELY LET US KNOW.
AND, UM, AND WE'LL TRY TO ACCOMMODATE YOU.
IN TERMS OF, UH, HOUSEKEEPING, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS.
UM, THERE ARE CITIZEN COMMENT CARDS ON THE TABLE.
SO THIS FORM RIGHT HERE ISN'T FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CITIZENS THERE, THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY SPEAK HERE.
BUT AS, UH, AS A, UH, AS A COMMUNITY EXERCISE, COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE USUALLY, UM, UH, UH, TAKING COMMENT ON, ON A, UH, REGULAR BASIS.
SO EVEN THOUGH WE'VE FINISHED THE CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT PART, WE STILL INVITE CITIZEN COMMENT.
AND THEN, UH, AS YOU ALL ARE, UH, UH, ARE DISCUSSING, MAKE SURE THAT YOUR MICROPHONE IS TURNED ON, UM, SO THAT THE REST OF US CAN HEAR YOU.
AND SO THAT THOSE, UH, SO THIS MEETING IS ALSO BEING LIVE STREAMED AS WELL, SO THAT, UM, SO THAT THE PUBLIC WHO'S LISTENING IN WILL BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU AS WELL.
SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE CECILE GAINES, WHO IS THE, THE BERKELEY GROUP.
AND, UM, SHE'S GOING TO CARRY US THROUGH, UH, TONIGHT'S WORK SESSION.
SO THIS IS OUR SECOND JOINT WORK SESSION ON THE DRAFT PIECES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND, UM, PARTICIPATING.
UM, TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO JUST GO OVER BRIEFLY THE SCHEDULE AND PROGRESS UPDATE.
UH, THEN WE'LL DO, UH, MORE OF A DEEPER DIVE ON THE PLAN SECTIONS, AND THEN BRIEFLY GO OVER NEXT STEPS.
SO IN THE PROCESS OF THE PROJECT, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE INVESTIGATION PHASE, AND NOW WE ARE ON THE SECOND OF FOUR JOINT WORK SESSIONS.
IN YOUR PACKET, YOU HAVE, UM, AN ATTACHMENT A AND AN ATTACHMENT B.
SO I JUST WANNA QUICKLY EXPLAIN, HOPEFULLY YOU'VE GONE THROUGH IT, LOOKED AT IT.
UM, I MAY BE REPEATING MYSELF A FEW TIMES TONIGHT, BUT THAT'S MAINLY JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS 'CAUSE IT'S A LOT OF MATERIAL.
AND IF I'M DOING THAT TOO MUCH, JUST TELL ME TO
UM, ATTACHMENT A, WHICH IS ACT, UH, CONTAINS THE COUNTY VISION AND POLICIES AND THE IMPLEMENTATION STEPS FOR THE LENGTH OF THE PLAN.
AND THEN THE UNDERSTAND SECTION ARE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, AND THOSE ARE BASED ON HARD AND SOFT DATA.
THE INFORMATION IS IMPORTANT AND IT'S REQUIRED TO BE IN THE PLAN, BUT IT'S PLACED AFTER THE POLICY SECTIONS BECAUSE THOSE WHO WILL BE USING THE PLAN THE MOST, LIKE YOURSELVES, UM, WILL BE REFERRING TO THE ACT SESSION SECTION MUCH MORE OFTEN THAN THE THE UNDERSTAND SECTION.
UM, THE UNDERSTAND THE EXISTING CONDITIONS CONTAINS THE FOUNDATIONAL INFORMATION THAT SHAPES
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ALL OF THE CONTENT IN THE POLICY SECTION, THE ACT SECTION.SO TODAY WE'RE GONNA SPEND MORE TIME REVIEWING THE POLICIES IN THE ACT SESSION SECTION, UH, BECAUSE THAT INCLUDES YOUR POLICIES AND STRATEGIES THAT ARE GONNA HELP BRING THE VISION TO FRUITION OVER THE LIFE OF THE PLAN.
UM, BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT, UH, THE LAST WORK SESSION, WE WENT THROUGH THIS SECTION LAUNCHING THE PLAN, AND, UM, THERE WAS SOME DESIRE TO EDIT THE VISION STATEMENT.
SO I WANNA JUST REVISIT THAT FOR A MINUTE.
UM, WE DID ADD KIND OF THIS WHOLE SECTION HERE ABOUT THE THRIVING LOCAL ECONOMY THAT SUPPORTS BUSINESSES, CREATES OPPORTUNITIES, AND THEN, UM, SO WE KIND OF STUCK THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE VISION STATEMENT TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT THE ECONOMY MORE ACCORDING TO THE DISCUSSION.
SO I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO, UM, READ THAT, MAKE SURE YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH IT AND, AND LET, LET US KNOW IF YOU'RE NOT, IF YOU THINK IT NEEDS MORE, UM, EDITING.
ARE YOU ASKING? YEAH, YOU WERE ASKING THE GROUP.
I, I THINK IT NEEDS FURTHER WORK.
I THINK WE NEED TO INTRODUCE INNOVATION, UH, AS A METHOD TO DOING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE LAID OUT THERE.
AND I ALSO THINK WE'RE PROBABLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO TIGHTEN IT UP.
IF, IF THE GROUP WANTS TO DO THAT.
AS WE MENTIONED LAST TIME, THIS IS YOUR OVERARCHING KIND OF HIGH LEVEL VISION FOR THE COUNTY, SO YOU DON'T WANNA GET TOO DETAILED IN THIS VISION.
EVERYTHING WE'RE GONNA GO OVER AFTER THIS TONIGHT IS GONNA GET INTO THE DETAILS AND THERE WILL BE SUB GOALS AND STRATEGIES AND D LAYERS TO THIS VISION THAT COME OUT THROUGH THOSE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
BUT IF YOU ALL DON'T LIKE IT, I'M HAPPY TO KEEP, UH, REVISING IT.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I GUESS TO MY, THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO, TO GET TO IS WHAT ARE WE PRIORITIZING AS WE LOOK INTO 2050 AS A COUNTY OR AS SOMEONE COMING HERE LOOKING TO DO BUSINESS OR LOOKING TO LIVE OR RETIRE OR, OR START A BUSINESS.
UM, AND, AND I'M A HUGE PROPONENT OF OUR HISTORY, OUR HERITAGE ON THE SHORE, BUT I THINK THAT THIS STATEMENT MAY BE ONE OF THE FEW THINGS THAT, THAT PERSPECTIVE, UH, FOLKS SEE.
AND IT'S GONNA GUIDE WHAT HAPPENS DOWNSTREAM AS WE LOOK AT IMPLEMENTATION OF POLICY AS WE LOOK AT.
AND SO WHAT ARE WE LAYING OUT? AND IT SEEMS TO BE SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE SO CONSERVATIVE THAT WE'RE NOT WORKING FOR, TO GROW AND IF WE DON'T GROW, WE CAN'T DO A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT THE DATA COLLECTION HAVE POINTED OUT.
SO, I MEAN, UH, THAT, THAT'S JUST WHAT IT SAYS TO ME.
IT DOESN'T LOOK TO BE, OR IT DOESN'T GIVE THE IMPRESSION TO ME THAT WE'RE FORWARD LOOKING.
IT DOES DEFINITELY EMPHASIZE THAT WE WANT TO PRESERVE WHAT WE HAVE AND WE, WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT TIMES HAVE CHANGED.
SO HOW DO WE DO THAT? AND THAT'S MY POINT ABOUT INNOVATION.
I THINK THAT'S A CONCEPT THAT WE, OH, GO AHEAD.
I THINK WE NEED TO SEE WHAT IS, OKAY, IN OTHER WORDS, THIS, YOU SAID THE HIGH LEVEL MM-HMM
LET'S SEE WHAT WE JUST MOVE ALONG.
AND IF YOU ALL I KIND OF, UM, IT DOES TALK ABOUT CONNECTED THROUGH THOUGHTFUL GROWTH.
I MEAN, I KNOW WE WANNA KEEP ALL HERITAGE HERE ON THE SHORE.
MOST, UH, PERSONS HERE IN, IN MACK COUNTY, BUT YOU GOING TO HAVE, WE CAN'T LIVE IN A A EIGHT TRACK AND A
SO YOU CAN'T LIVE IN THAT TYPE OF WORLD EITHER.
WE HAVE TO MOVE TOWARD THAT, BUT TO ME, A VISION GIVES AN OVERALL PICTURE.
YOU DON'T GET TOO, UH, AS YOU SAID, YOU DON'T NEED TO GET TOO DETAILED WITH IT.
YOU NEED TO GIVE A OVERALL VIEW.
AND I THINK THIS IS WONDERFUL IN MY OPINION.
ANYBODY ELSE? AND I APOLOGIZE THAT I'M SITTING BEHIND YOU ALL HERE, BUT WE WANTED TO PRIORITIZE YOU BEING ABLE TO SEE THE SCREEN AND EACH OTHER AND BE ABLE TO DISCUSS.
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WELL, UM, I'LL KEEP MOVING ALONG IF NOBODY ELSE HAS COMMENTS AT THIS POINT.SO FOR THE TRANSPORTATION, UM, ELEMENT OF THE PLAN IN ATTACHMENT B, UM, I'M JUST GONNA GIVE A, A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF, OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
UM, WE DO ASK THAT YOU READ THEM ON YOUR OWN, GO OVER THEM CAREFULLY ON YOUR OWN TIME, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, PLEASE RELAY THOSE TO STAFF, EITHER LEE OR SHANICE, AND THEY WILL SHARE THOSE WITH US.
BUT, UM, I DON'T WANNA KEEP EVERYBODY HERE TILL MIDNIGHT, SO THAT'S GONNA BE YOUR HOMEWORK IS TO GO OVER THOSE PARTS ON YOUR OWN.
UM, SO I WILL GIVE A QUICK, QUICK OVERVIEW.
THE TRANSPORTATION SECTION IN THE EXISTING CONDITIONS INCLUDES ALL OF THE DATA AND CONDITIONS REQUIRED BY VDOT.
UM, THEY DO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REVIEW, SO THEY WILL BE, UH, RECEIVING THIS PLAN AND READING IT AND THEN, UM, APPROVING IT BEFORE IT CAN BE ADOPTED.
SO, UM, THIS SECTION INCLUDES THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK, INCLUDING ROADS AND ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION, AND QUITE A FEW MAPS.
THERE'S A SECTION ON AVIATION AND AEROSPACE AND RAIL IN THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY'S PLANS AND PROGRAMS. AND MOVING ON TO THE POLICY SECTION FOR TRANSPORTATION, THIS INCLUDES A GOAL.
THE COMMUNITY PERSPECTIVE SUMMARIZED FROM THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, FEEDBACK, AND COMMUNITY CONDITIONS SUMMARIZED FROM THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
MUCH OF THE CONTENT IN THE TRANSPORTATION SECTION IS DICTATED BY VDOT REQUIREMENTS.
AS I SAID, THEY WILL BE, UM, APPROVING OF THE PLAN.
THE LIST ON PAGE 26 AND THE MAP ON PAGE 27 INCLUDE THE COUNTY'S PRIORITY TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS AS PLANNED AT THIS TIME.
THIS IS NOT ONLY REQUIRED BY VOT, BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, UM, WHEN THE COUNTY GOES TO APPLY FOR AND RECEIVE FUNDING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THOSE PROJECTS IN THE PLAN.
PAGES 22 AND 23 PROVIDE THE BASIS FOR THE STRATEGIES FOR TRANSPORTATION THAT ARE IN THE IMPLEMENTATION MATRIX.
SO THESE ITEMS ARE DERIVED FROM EXISTING CONDITIONS DATA, AND FROM THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT FEEDBACK, WHICH WE WENT THROUGH AT THE LAST WORK SESSION.
IF YOU HAVEN'T READ THESE YET, WE ASK AGAIN THAT YOU READ THEM CAREFULLY ON YOUR OWN.
AND THEN RELAY ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS OR EDITS YOU HAVE TO STAFF BY NOVEMBER 6TH.
AND I WILL, UM, REMIND YOU OF THAT AGAIN TOWARD THE END OF THE MEETING.
SO UHHUH
JUST GO THROUGH THAT AND THEN JUST COMMUNICATE.
YOU ALL CAN COMMUNICATE THE STAFF AND STAFF AND COMMUNICATE WITH ONE ANOTHER.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE MOST EFFICIENT FOR, FOR, FOR WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW.
UM, WE'RE GONNA CAREFULLY GO THROUGH ALL THE STRATEGIES IN THE IMPLEMENTATION MATRIX.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES, THIS IS THE TIME TO BRING THOSE UP AND DISCUSS 'EM AS A GROUP.
AND IF YOU DECIDE YOU WANNA CHANGE SOMETHING, I WILL TAKE THAT DOWN.
SO, UM, WE DO WANNA HEAR ANYTHING YOU WANT CHANGED.
SO, UM, THIS IMPLEMENTATION, I'VE, I'VE GOT THE PAGE NUMBERS ON THE SCREEN FOR YOU IN CASE YOU WANNA FOLLOW ALONG IN YOUR ATTACHMENT, WHICH I DO ENCOURAGE 'CAUSE IT'S HARD TO READ THIS PRINT ON THE SCREEN.
BUT THE STRATEGIES ARE LISTED IN THE IMPLEMENTATION, UH, MATRIX.
THESE WILL BE USED PRIMARILY BY STAFF ON A REGULAR BASIS TO KEEP THE COUNTY ON TRACK FOR IMPLEMENTING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
YOU'LL BE SEEING THESE AGAIN AT YOUR MEETINGS IN THE FUTURE AS THEY'RE BEING IMPLEMENTED AND AS STAFF NEED YOU TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT PRIORITIES OR FUNDING.
UM, SO WHAT YOU SEE IS OVER ON THE LEFT, THAT T ONE, THAT'S THE FIRST STRATEGY FOR TRANSPORTATION.
THEN THERE'S A TYPE WHICH IS JUST KIND OF THE TYPE OF STRATEGY.
THEN THERE'S A, A, A KIND OF A GENERAL TIMEFRAME, A GENERAL COST.
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RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPLEMENTING THAT STRATEGY AND THEN THE ACTION STEPS TOWARD IMPLEMENTING IT.SO THE FIRST ONE, UM, IS CONTINUING TO PARTICIPATE WITH YOUR REGIONAL AND STATE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AND FUNDING PROCESSES.
AND THIS IS, UM, THIS IS WHAT THE COUNTY DOES ON A REGULAR BASIS, WORKING WITH VDOT, WORKING WITH THE PDC PLANNING FOR TRANSPORTATION.
BUT YOU WANNA HAVE THAT STRATEGY IN THERE AND KEEP ON DOING THAT AND WORKING REGIONALLY WITH YOUR PARTNERS TO GET FUNDING TO GET TRANSPORTATION BECAUSE IT, AS YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING CROSSES COUNTY LINES.
UM, THE SECOND ONE IS ABOUT COORDINATING THE TRANSPORTATION AND LAND USE PLANNING, UM, WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND, AND THAT SECTION.
SO WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT OF DRAFTING THE FUTURE LAND USE SECTION, WE WILL COME BACK AND LOOK AT THESE OTHER SECTIONS AND IF ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE TWEAKED TO MAKE THEM TALK TO EACH OTHER BETTER, WE'LL DO THAT.
BUT WE PUT THESE STRATEGIES IN HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE ARE WORKING LAND USE, EVERYTHING TOUCHES LAND USE, RIGHT? SO ALL THE SECTIONS OF THE PLAN ARE GONNA AFFECT LAND USE.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE TYING THOSE IN TOGETHER.
ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ABOUT THOSE TWO STRATEGIES? OKAY, SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA KEEP GOING.
JUST FLAG ME DOWN IF YOU NEED ME TO STOP.
SO THE THIRD ONE IS AMENDING, UH, YOUR ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCES TO STRENGTHEN CONNECTIVITY AND ACCESS TO NEW DEVELOPMENT, PARTICULARLY IN YOUR AREAS PLANNED FOR GROWTH.
THE NEXT ONE IS TO COORDINATE AGAIN WITH YOUR REGIONAL AND STATE PARTNERS TO SUPPORT CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THE EASTERN SHORE RAIL TRAIL AND YOUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES, DESTINATIONS AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THOSE TWO? SO JUST SO I'M TRACKING THESE ARE CURRENT RECOMMENDED STRATEGIES FOR THE NEW PLAN, OR ARE THEY COMING FORWARD FROM THE EXISTING PLAN? NO, THESE ARE NEW.
UM, AND SO, OKAY, SO THERE'S THE STRATEGY AND THOSE ARE THE ACTIONS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO SUPPORT THE STRATEGY, RIGHT? TO, TO FLUSH IT OUT.
UM, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THIS, I APOLOGIZE.
I WASN'T, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T REALIZE WE HAD IT.
SO I'M CURIOUS WHAT THE NEXT ONE IS AT T FOUR BECAUSE WHAT I'M SEEING IS, I MEAN, JUST LOOKING AT IT, I LIKE THREE, BUT IS THE COORDINATING FOR RAILS TO TRAILS THE NEXT PRIORITY? OR SHOULD IT BE MAYBE COORDINATING AROUND THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY OR SOME OTHER DEVELOPMENT IN THERE? THESE ARE NOT IN A PRIORITIZED, UM, LIST.
WHAT YOU, YOU ALL WILL DO AS A COUNTY, ONCE THIS IS ADOPTED, EVERY YEAR YOU'LL LOOK AT THIS LIST AND SAY, WHICH ONE OF THESE DO WE WANNA DO THIS YEAR? AND YOU CAN PICK, YOU CAN START WITH NUMBER FIVE IF YOU WANT.
UM, WE PUT IN THESE TIMEFRAMES, THE SHORT TERM, THE ONGOING, I MEAN THAT, THAT T FOUR, YOU'RE ALREADY DOING THAT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF AN ONGOING GOAL.
UM, BUT THE SHORT TERM THINGS ARE TEND TO BE THINGS YOU CAN GET DONE MORE EASILY.
THINGS THAT STAFF CAN DO ON THEIR OWN OR THINGS THAT DON'T COST MUCH MONEY THE LONGER TERM YOU MAY NEED TO SECURE FUNDING FOR THAT TYPE OF THING, BUT THESE ARE NOT IN A PRIORITIZED ORDER, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? THAT HELPS, THANK YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY, MOVING ON.
UM, THE NEXT ONE IS COORDINATING AGAIN WITH YOUR PARTNERS, UH, FOR SAFETY AND VISITOR MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE ROCKET LAUNCHES.
UM, AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS USING THE EASTERN SHORE SAFETY ACTION PLAN AS THE PRIMARY FRAMEWORK FOR IDENTIFYING LONG RANGE, UM, SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THAT IS, UM, THAT PLAN IS DONE BY THE PDC AND THIS IS A, A VERY STANDARD WAY OF PLANNING ACROSS THE STATE.
THE PDCS DO A LOT OF THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING IN COORDINATION WITH THE COUNTIES.
SO, UM, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE WHERE WE'RE SAYING
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KEEP KEEP DOING THIS PLAN.THIS IS HOW YOU GET YOUR PROJECTS AND YOUR PRIORITIES.
SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE TWO? OKAY.
UM, THEN COORDINATING WITH YOUR PARTNERS TO EVALUATE AND ADVANCE NEEDED IMPROVEMENTS TO THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK AND, UM, CONTINUED GROWTH OF THE AEROSPACE SECTOR IN NORTHERN AC ACK COUNTY.
UM, THE NEXT ONE IS COORDINATING WITH THE PARTNERS TO ADVANCE ROADWAY DRAINAGE AND RELATED IMPROVEMENTS THAT ADDRESS TRANSPORTATION NEEDS WHILE ALSO STRENGTHENING RESILIENCE TO FLOODING COASTAL HAZARDS AND CHANGING ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE TWO FOR DISCUSSION? YOU GUYS ARE MAKING THIS EASY.
ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S, UM, THAT BRINGS US TO THE END OF TRANSPORTATION.
AND, UM, NOW I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THAT EXISTING CONDITIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY, FACILITIES, SERVICES AND UTILITIES.
SO THIS ONE, UM, INCLUDES ALL THE DATA AND CONDITIONS ABOUT COUNTY GOVERNANCE, PUBLIC SAFETY, FIRE AND RESCUE, PUBLIC HEALTH EDUCATION, PARKS AND REC AND UTILITIES AND SERVICES.
THEN, UM, MOVING BACK TO ATTACHMENT A, THE COMMUNITY FACILITY SERVICES AND UTILITIES POLICY SECTION.
UM, AGAIN, WE HAVE THE, THE OVERARCHING GOAL FOR THIS SECTION.
WE HAVE COMMUNITY PERSPECTIVE, WHICH CAME FROM, UM, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND THEN COMMUNITY CONDITIONS FROM THAT ATTACHMENT B.
AND THEN JUST LIKE THE TRANSPORTATION SECTION, THE ITEMS ON PAGE 30 AND 31 PROVIDE THE BASIS FOR THE STRATEGIES AT THAT ARE IN THE IMPLEMENTATION MATRIX.
SO AGAIN, UM, THESE ARE DERIVED FROM THOSE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
SO WE HAVE QUITE A FEW STRATEGIES FOR THIS SECTION.
I'LL JUST GO THROUGH 'EM AS I DID BEFORE, BUT JUST STOP ME OR TELL ME I'M GOING TOO SLOW IF YOU NEED TO
SO THE FIRST ONE IS TO, UM, USE THE FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE NORTHERN MACK WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLANNING STUDY TO ADVANCE PRIORITY IMPROVEMENTS TO YOUR UTILITIES TO SUPPORT YOUR PLANNED GROWTH AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SO AS WE UNDERSTAND, THIS STUDY IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY, IS THAT RIGHT? MM-HMM
SO, UM, WE WILL COME BACK AND UPDATE THINGS IF WE NEED TO ONCE THAT STUDY IS DONE.
BUT, UM, THAT STUDY IS, IS GONNA HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT HOW YOU PROCEED WITH THESE STRATEGIES.
AND, UM, YOU ALL ON THE BOARD WILL BE HAVING A WORK SESSION ON THIS NEXT WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 4TH.
SO, UH, YOU'LL, YOU'RE DEFINITELY GONNA DIVE INTO THE DETAILS OF THAT SPECIFIC STUDY, WHICH, UM, THE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ISN'T GOING TO MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF STATEMENTS ABOUT WHAT ONE SHOULD DO OR NOT DO IN NORTHERN AKIMA.
SO IT'LL BE REFERENCED, UM, ONLY IN THE, IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND NOT REPEATED, BUT NEXT WEEK MORE TO COME.
THE NEXT ONE IS TO COORDINATE WITH NASA AND HRSD TO EVALUATE OPPORTUNITIES, UM, FOR AVAILABLE WASTEWATER TREATMENT CAPACITY AT THE WALLOPS FLIGHT FACILITY TO SUPPORT, UM, DEVELOPMENT IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY.
ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THOSE TWO? OKAY, THEN, UM, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT ONE PLEASE? YEP.
BECAUSE I REALLY FELT LIKE YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IT, SO I THOUGHT I'D HELP YOU.
UM, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND RESPONSIBLE PARTIES AND WHO OWNS AN ACTION RELATED TO THAT.
UM, AND, AND I GUESS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS,
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IS THERE, IS THERE A PLAYER THAT'S NOT ON THE, ON THE LIST THERE TO HELP US IMPLEMENT THIS BECAUSE IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR SOME TIME.UM, WE HEAR THERE'S PROGRESS, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY RESULTS.
UM, SO WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND HRSD, UH, BUT IS THERE A ROLE HERE FOR THE STATE OR SOME OTHER ENTITY TO HELP FACILITATE THIS? OR, AND WOULD THAT THE, THE OTHER THING IS WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE IN YOUR PLANNING DOCUMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, TO WHETHER WE WERE REQUESTING FEDERAL INTERACTION FROM OUR FEDERAL REPRESENTATIVES? I, I'D SAY THAT THIS COULD BE REWORDED TO REWORDED JUST VERY GENERALLY, AGAIN, IN TERMS OF STRATEGY, IT'S, IT'S A GENERAL STATEMENT AS TO HOW ONE WOULD APPROACH THAT PARTICULAR, YOU KNOW, THAT TASK.
BUT, YOU KNOW, TO, TO INCLUDE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS, FEDERAL, STATE, REGIONAL, AND LOCAL PARTNERS, UH, ADDING THAT PHRASE MAY BE ONE WAY THAT WE CAN KIND OF CAPTURE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS SO THAT WE'RE NOT SO FOCUSED ON NASA AND HRSD, EVEN THOUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, NASA HAVING A, UH, HAVING A FACILITY HRSD, HAVING A FACILITY ON TIGA ISLAND, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE, UH, THERE ARE OTHER FOLKS THAT WE DON'T CAPTURE IN THE CURRENT WORDING THAT WE CAN JUST ADJUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS AND WE LOOK AT APPLICATIONS OR OTHER INITIATIVES IN THE FUTURE, THAT WE'RE NOT SO FOCUSED ON THESE TWO, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE THE TWO BIG STAKEHOLDERS IN THE, UH, IN THAT PART OF THE COUNTY.
I, I, YEAH, I THINK YOU'RE GETTING TO THE POINT THAT WE DON'T LIMIT OURSELVES TO THAT AS, AS WE LOOK AT EXPANDING.
AND WHAT STRUCK ME WAS THE FIRST ITEM WAS USE THE NORTHERN OMA WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLANNING STUDY, BUT THAT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO US LOCALLY AND WE'RE DEALING WITH PLAYERS ABOVE OUR LEVEL, SO WHAT'S GONNA INFLUENCE THEM? UM, SO, BUT I, I LIKE YOUR APPROACH LEE.
RIGHT? OH, AND, UM, JUST A, UH, ANOTHER GENERAL HOUSEKEEPING POINT.
UH, I WILL MENTION THAT STUART HALL, THE OTHER DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IS, IS ALSO HERE, AND HE WOULD BE ABLE TO
SO JUST TO MAKE SURE I, I UNDERSTAND AND, AND THAT EVERYBODY AGREES.
SO FOR C TWO, RATHER THAN SAYING COORDINATE WITH NACHA, NASA AND HRSD, WE, UM, PUT A PHRASE IN THERE LIKE, COORDINATE WITH NASA, HRSD AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS TO EVALUATE AND PURSUE OPPORTUNITIES.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, JUST ONE LINE POINT.
I, I THINK REALLY THE BOARD AND THE COMMISSION SORT OF AT A DISADVANTAGE 'CAUSE YOU HADN'T SEEN NORTHERN AAC WASTEWATER STUDY.
AND SO AS, AS WAS INDICATED EARLIER, WE GOT A WORK SESSION ON THAT COMING RIGHT UP NEXT WEEK.
AND, YOU KNOW, NOT TO TAKE AWAY ANYTHING FROM IT, BUT PART OF THE MESSAGE IS GONNA BE YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE SOME OF THESE GROUPS INVOLVED AND MOVE FORWARD WITH WASTEWATER PLANNING A SOLUTION TO GET SOMETHING DONE.
NEXT, UM, UNDERTAKE A WASTEWATER MASTER PLANNING STUDY FOR CENTRAL MACK TO EVALUATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR EXPANDED CENTRALIZED SEWER SERVICE IN AREAS IDENTIFIED FOR GROWTH IN THE FUTURE LAND USE FRAMEWORK.
SO WE HAVE, UH, AN EDITOR'S NOTE HERE ON BOTH OF THESE STRATEGIES SAYING THAT THIS WILL BE REVISITED AS WE WRITE THE FUTURE LAND USE FRAMEWORK AND, AND DISCUSS THAT LATER.
UM, BUT WE, WE DIDN'T WANNA NEGLECT PUTTING IT IN IN THIS SECTION.
UM, 'CAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT THAT AS YOU PLAN FOR FUTURE GROWTH, FUTURE LAND USE, YOU ALSO PLAN FOR FUTURE UTILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, SO THAT ONE WAS ABOUT WASTEWATER.
THE NEXT ONE IS ABOUT WATER SUPPLY.
SO UNDERTAKING A WATER SUPPLY AND SERVICE PLANNING STUDY TO EVALUATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR EXPANDED CENTRALIZED WATER SERVICE IN AREAS IDENTIFIED FOR GROWTH.
SO, UM, THAT INCLUDES NORTHERN AND CENTRAL ECAC COUNTY AND AREAS SURROUNDING INCORPORATED TOWNS.
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ABOUT THOSE TWO? OKAY, I'LL KEEP GOING.NEXT, IDENTIFY AND IMPLEMENT A LONG-TERM LEACHATE MANAGEMENT SOLUTION FOR THE NORTHERN LANDFILL, UM, TO, UH, REDUCE OPERATING COSTS WHILE MAINTAINING COMPLIANCE WITH ENVIRONMENTAL REQUIREMENTS.
UH, THE NEXT ONE IS TO IDENTIFY AND SECURE SUITABLE PROPERTY FOR EXPANSION OF THE LANDFILL, UM, TO MAINTAIN, YOU KNOW, SERVICES INTO THE FUTURE.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LANDFILL STRATEGIES? OKAY, SEEING NONE, I'LL KEEP GOING.
UH, OR I REFER THIS TO, TO STAFF C SIX.
UH, THE COUNTY HAS BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS AS FAR AS IDENTIFYING AND SECURING SUITABLE PROPERTY FOR EXPANSION OF NORTHERN LANDFILL.
SO CAN YOU LIST IT AS ONGOING? IT'S NOT LIKE, UM, SURE.
WE'RE GONNA START DOING THIS CONTINUE OR SOMETHING.
UM, I, ONGOING, THIS IS SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT PURCHASING MORE PROPERTY.
SOMEONE IS SOMEONE OTHER THAN PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON HERE, WERE READ THIS, THEY WOULD THINK THAT WE'RE NOT DOING IT NOW.
SO WE'LL JUST CHANGE THAT TIMEFRAME TO ONGOING.
THE NEXT ONE, UPDATE AND IMPLEMENT THE COUNTY'S PUBLIC SAFETY STRATEGIC PLAN TO ESTABLISH SHORT AND LONG-TERM PRIORITIES FOR FIRE AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES, INCLUDING VOLUNTEER RECRUITMENT, RETENTION, STRATEGIC CAREER STAFFING, SERVICE COVERAGE, FACILITY AND EQUIPMENT NEEDS, AND CONSISTENT TRAINING STANDARDS AND ORGANIZATIONAL COORDINATION.
UM, I A COMMENT THERE, YOUR, YOUR TIMEFRAME.
SHORT TERM THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.
I HAD A FEELING YOU WERE GONNA SAY CHANGE THIS ONE.
SO YOU WANT THIS TO SAY ONGOING AS WELL? YES.
ANYTHING ELSE THERE? THIS IS, IS THAT THE ONLY ONE ON PUBLIC SAFETY? UM, I'M NOT SURE.
UM, IT COULD, IT MAY BE, CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT? BUT THAT ONE IS KIND OF A MOUTHFUL.
IT KIND OF COVERS EVERYTHING, BUT DO YOU SEE ANYTHING THAT'S MISSING? WELL, AND I'M GONNA LOOK TO MY OF COURSE, TO EVERYBODY, BUT TO MR. CROCKETT AND MR. TAR, DOES THAT NEED TO BE MORE FORWARD LOOKING OR ANOTHER TASK THAT'S RELATED TO IN THE FUTURE? LOOK AT FUTURE GROWTH ON THE SHORE AND GROWING THAT OR ORGAN REORGANIZING OUR PUBLIC SAFETY AND VOLUNTEER EMS STRUCTURE OR DPS STRUCTURE? SOMETHING BROAD.
UH, ARE, ARE YOU SUGGESTIONS SUGGESTING THAT THE VOLUNTEER FORMAT THAT WE HAVE NOW MAY NOT SURVIVE? UH, GOSH, MR. PETIT.
I DON'T WANNA SAY THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S UNDER STRESS.
YOU KNOW, AND I, I WANNA MAKE, I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE, BUT I, I MEAN I, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THREE COMPANIES IN THIS DISTRICT THAT TALK TO ON A REGULAR BASIS AND, AND WE'VE GOT DPS AND I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S AS, AS EVERYONE SAID, IT'S BEEN ONGOING.
YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES IT NEED TO LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE? IS ALL, I'M TRYING TO PUT A CATCHALL TO MAKE SURE WE'RE LOOKING AHEAD.
I THINK A BA I THINK A SIMPLE WAY TO HANDLE THIS WOULD BE TO USE ANOTHER TERM
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OR WORD AN OTHER, THAT UPDATE.UPDATE IS A VERY SMALL PROCESS AND, UM, I'M TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO FIND A WORD THAT WOULD BE STRONGER AND, AND MY POSITION IS THAT WE, WE NEED THE VOLUNTEERS, BUT IT'S HARDER TO, IT'S HARDER FOR THE LOCAL VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES TO GET ENOUGH VOLUNTEERS NOWADAYS.
NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE DIFFERENT THAN BEFORE.
IT'S BECAUSE OF THE REQUIREMENTS, THE TRAINING REQUIREMENTS.
IT'S HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS.
AND I THINK IT'S GONNA BE MORE DIFFICULT IN THE FUTURE.
SO MAYBE, MAYBE A MORE, MAYBE A STRONGER WORD OTHER THAN UPDATE.
SO, AND, AND MY EARS ARE, ARE OPEN FOR A, FOR A WORD THERE.
I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE, THE SOURCE FOR THAT ONE.
BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE AN OVERHAUL OR OVER OVERHAUL IS TOO STRONG.
I THINK, YEAH, I AGREE WITH MR. CROCKETT, BUT UPDATE IS TOO WEAK.
OVERHAUL WOULD BE A SEPARATE TASK, WHICH WE WOULD ALL OVERHAUL IS TOTALLY CHANGING EVERYTHING.
AND I MEAN, JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S POINT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A FIRE SUNDAY, WE HAD COMPANIES FROM ALL OVER THE SHORE THERE TO FIGHT ONE HOUSE FIRE.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GOT THREE HOUSE FIRES OR FIVE, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE ROLLING EQUIPMENT TO BE ABLE TO GET THE, THE, THE, THE, THE CREWS ON THE GROUND.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING AHEAD AS YOU HAVE FURTHER DEVELOPMENT IN SOME AREAS.
HOW ABOUT THE WORD STRENGTHEN? I THINK STRENGTHEN AND IMPLEMENT.
I WAS JUST GONNA ADD THAT, UM, THESE STRATEGIES WERE, WERE ALSO IN CONSULTATION WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR HALL FOR SOME OF THE CO FOR SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE PIECES.
CERTAINLY, UM, PUBLIC SAFETY DIRECTOR, UH, PRUITT WAS ALSO CONSULTED WITH REGARDS TO THIS.
UM, I ASKED, I ALSO ASKED HIM ABOUT THE, UH, ABOUT THE PLAN.
UH, IT CERTAINLY NEEDS, UH, REVIEW AND REVISION, BUT, UH, UH, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY WAS ALSO CONSULTED ON AS WELL.
AND, AND TO, TO FOLLOW UP ON, ON MR. PETIT'S, UH, COMMENT ABOUT THE, THE VOLUNTEERS I SERVE ON THE, UH, I REPRESENT THE BOARD ON THE YAKIMA COUNTY, UH, FIRE AND RESCUE COM COMMISSION.
AND I BELIEVE, AND, AND, AND, UH, MR. PARK SERVES ON THE 9 1 1, UH, COMMISSION.
I BELIEVE NOW, IF IT'S A HOUSE FIRE, I BELIEVE THEY, THEY ALERT FIVE COMPANIES IN ORDER TO GET ENOUGH PEOPLE ON THE SCENE.
AND THAT, THAT WILL PROBABLY ENLIGHTEN PEOPLE OF HOW, UH, DIFFICULT IT IS TO GET VOLUNTEERS NOWADAYS.
AND THIS IS, UH, CERTAINLY STATEWIDE PROBABLY COUNTRYWIDE.
THE DAY OF THE VOLUNTEER IS MM-HMM
PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TIME TO VOLUNTEER ANYMORE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE MANDATES THAT THE STATES PUTTING ON MM-HMM
WE'LL WORK ON THAT ONE AND PUT STRENGTHEN IN THERE INSTEAD OF UPDATE.
PREPARE COORDINATED PARKS AND RECREATION PLAN TO GUIDE FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND EXPANSION OF SAWMILL PARK AND OTHER COMMUNITY, UH, OTHER COUNTY RECREATIONAL FACILITIES.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE? UM, I TIME ON THIS, SINCE EVERYTHING IS TOO NORTH.
I THINK Y'ALL FORGOT ABOUT THE SOUTH, BUT ANYWAY, THERE IS A SOUTH, UM, I THINK, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER GROUPS, UH, WITHIN MY, WITHIN THE ELECTION DISTRICT NINE, MAYBE SOME BALDWIN EIGHT, UH, WHERE, UM, THEY'RE LOOKING AT HAVING OR HAVING A SUB SOMEWHERE IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF MACK COUNTY TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF, OF, UH, RECREATION FACILITY.
NOT TO TAKE AWAY SALT MILL PARK.
SALT MILL PARK IS GREAT, BUT I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
I, I JUST THINK, UH, WE NEED TO, UH, I DON'T KNOW.
AT ONE POINT, I DON'T, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO OWNS CENTRAL NOW.
UH, SO I KNOW THERE ARE AREAS WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE SOME TYPE OF A RECREATIONAL FACILITY IF IT AIN'T NOTHING BUT PICKLEBALL,
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SO DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT STRATEGY? IT, IT SAYS, AND OTHER COUNTY RECREATIONAL FACILITIES? WELL, I WOULD LIKE FOR SOMETHING TO BE IN THE SOUTHERN AREA, LIKE POTENTIAL, UH, OTHER POTENTIAL NEW FACILITIES.
UM, OR I, I WOULD SAY NEW AS WELL AS THE INDIAN AS WELL.
I'M LIKE, AND I, I WOULD ALSO PROPOSE, AND, AND, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD GO HERE, BUT TO THE MADAM CHAIR'S POINT, ARE WE LIMITING OURSELVES BY ONLY SAYING COUNTY RECREATIONAL FACILITIES? IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH TOWNS FROM THE COUNTY TO EXPAND, UH, FACILITIES THAT ARE IN SOME OF THE TOWNS? I KNOW THE PARKLEY HAS A PARK, FOR INSTANCE.
THAT'S, WE HAVE A, UH, LET ME, UM, GO ON TO THE NEXT PARKS ONE.
LET'S GET THROUGH THE PARKS STRATEGIES AND SEE IF YOU STILL FEEL LIKE THAT'S NOT ALL ADDRESSED.
I HAVE ONE QUESTION, UH, DEFINED FOR ME, SHORT TERM, MIDTERM AND LONG TERM IN YEARS.
UM, I'M GONNA HAVE TO REFER TO, UM, YOUR HANDOUT.
THE, UH, JUST GIMME THE NUMBER.
IT'S, IT'S SPECIFIED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE IMPLEMENTATION MATRIX.
ON THAT FIRST PAGE, IT SAYS LIKE, ZERO TO FIVE YEARS FOR SHORT TERM.
AND I FORGET EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS AND I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.
BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, LET ME, LET ME FIND THAT.
AT THE BEGINNING OF THE IMPLEMENTATION MATRIX, ALL THE, EVERYTHING ABOUT THE MATRIX IS EXPLAINED.
SO THE COST, THE COST LEVELS, ALL THAT IS IN THERE.
ANYBODY NEED MORE TIME WITH THAT? ONE SECOND.
COULD WE, UH, GO BACK TO C EIGHT? COULD YOU CHANGE THAT TO, UH, LONG TERM MID FROM MIDTERM TO LONG TERM? WHAT'S C EIGHT? C EIGHT? JAIL CC EIGHT.
UH, WE TOOK OUTTA HERE BECAUSE WE WANTED TO
THAT'S EVEN BETTER
THAT'S WHY IT WAS SKIPPED, CORRECT? THAT'S RIGHT.
SO FOR C NINE, YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT BEING LONG TERM? THAT'S FINE.
AND THEN THE NEXT ONE, UH, PREPARE A COORDINATED PARKS AND REC PLAN TO GUIDE FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND EXPANSION.
OH, WAIT, WE ALREADY DID THAT ONE.
IS THAT EXACTLY THE SAME? OKAY.
I'M SORRY THAT I NEED TO TAKE C 10 OUT.
THOSE ARE BOTH EXACTLY THE SAME.
I, I THINK ON, ON C NINE OR C 10, WHICHEVER ONE MAY BE TO YOUR POINT CHAIR, MAYBE ADDING, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOD FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS, I THINK ALSO AND THEIR LOCATION THAT WE GET LOCATION FLAGGED IN THERE BECAUSE THAT'S AN ISSUE AND THAT ADDRESSES, OKAY.
SO RATHER THAN, UM, CALLING OUT THE SOUTHERN PORTION OR SAYING OTHER COUNTY FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, YOU WANNA SAY, UM,
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THAT THE PLAN SHOULD GUIDE IMPROVEMENTS AND LOCATION? YEP.AND WHAT ABOUT MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAVE? IT INCLUDE OTHER PARTNERS OR STAKEHOLDERS? OH, LET'S, UH, FOR C NINE, I THINK WE'VE GOT AT LEAST ONE MORE HERE FOR PARKS AND RECS.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I GET THIS DOWN.
UM, EVALUATE COUNTY MAINTAINED COASTAL PUBLIC ACCESS FACILITIES AND PRIORITIZE IMPROVEMENTS THAT EXPAND SAFE, CONVENIENT ACCESS TO THE CHESAPEAKE BAY AND ACK COUNTY'S WATERWAYS.
UM, OKAY, SO THOSE ARE ALL THE PARKS AND RECS.
SO YOU WANNA ADD TO C NINE? YOU WANTED TO ADD MORE PARTNERS? IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? I I WANT TO, IF WE, IF EVERYONE AGREES, I WANT TO BROADEN IT TO INCLUDE COORDINATION OR POTENTIALLY THE COUNTY SUPPORTING PARKS AND TOWNS OR OTHER, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER ENTITIES.
MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE, UM, PARTNERING WITH THE TOWNS TO PROVIDE COUNTY PARKS IN THE TOWN.
IN THE TOWN OR LIKE ON THE TOWN JURISDICTION.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING? OR JUST WORKING TOGETHER WITH THEM TO PROVIDE PARKS? I THINK YOU'RE GETTING DOWN IN THE WEEDS, AREN'T WE?
SO, UH, BUT TO OPEN IT UP THAT THE, THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND REC FOR THE COUNTY WILL HAVE A ROLE IN SUPPORTING OR HAVE A CAPABILITY TO SUPPORT, UM, PARKS AND RECS WITHIN OUR MUNICIPAL, WITHIN OUR TOWNS.
ANY, ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THE COASTAL, COASTAL ACCESS.
YOU CAN PUT THE WATER BOAT YOU WANT, BUT YOU HAVE NO WATER.
DO SOMETHING ABOUT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN.
UM, WHEN YOU LAUNCH A BOAT FROM A RAMP, YOU LAUNCH IT INTO THE WATER MM-HMM
SO YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH WATER TO GET OUT TO THE, WHERE YOU'RE GOING GO.
THESE RAMPS AROUND HERE ARE SOLD, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING A ROUGH TIME GETTING CONTRACTS TO TORE.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S A HIGH PRIORITY FOR LOCAL FISHING FISHERIES.
SO IT'S CLOSING OUR WATERWAYS.
SO THAT'S NOT REALLY A, A PARKS AND REC STRATEGY, BUT IT'S OKAY.
NO, AND I, BUT I'M, SINCE I, IT FALLS UNDER PARK AND RENTS, UH, SOMEWHAT THE RAMPS DO THE RAMPS DO RAMPS AND C THEY REGULATE WAR, WAR WAYS AS FAR AS THE CONTRACT MONEY AND STUFF.
BUT THE ISSUE IS IT TAKES SO LONG TO GET IT DONE.
YOU CAN APPROVE IT EVERYTHING TODAY AND FOUR YEARS LATER YOU'LL SEE A
DO YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING TO C 11
AND COME ON THE WATERWAY COMMITTEE MEETING.
WHO DOES? WE WANNA PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE ANYMORE? NO.
WHO DOES THE DREDGING? WE WE'RE OVER ON ANGIER BIG TIME.
DOES THE COUNTY DREDGING JUST GO BACK TO YOUR, UH, TO YOUR SLIDE THERE, UH, OVER IN YOUR ACTIONS, YOUR FIRST PARAGRAPH MM-HMM
UH, LAST THREE WORDS, ACCESS U AND THIS IS HOW I WOULD READ IT OR WRITE IT, ACCESS USABILITY AND USABILITY, INCLUDING DREDGING.
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WELL, THE WAY NORTHERN AKIMA COUNTY SOLVED THE PROBLEM AT CAPTAIN S COVE IS WE BOUGHT OUR OWN DREDGE.SO I MEAN, IS THAT FEASIBLE? WELL, THERE, THERE IS A, THERE IS A DREDGE THAT STATE BOUGHT THAT WE SHARE WITH NORTHERN NECK, NORTHERN NECK WHO HAS THREE TIMES MORE PROJECTS THAN WE DO.
SO IT DOESN'T GET OVER HERE FOR THAT MUCH.
AND WHEN IT DOES, IT DIDN'T MEAN.
I WAS GONNA ASK, AND I WAS GONNA GO BACK TO IT LATER, BUT SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS TOPIC, I NOTICED THAT TRANSPORTATION, WE REALLY ONLY TALKED ABOUT GRAM TRANSPORTATION.
UM, AND THERE'S SEVERAL INITIATIVES ACROSS THE COUNTRY NOW TO EXPAND WATERWAY TRANSPORTATION.
AND WE'RE SEEING THAT HERE ON THE SHORE WITH THE TRANSPORT OF, OF ROCKETS TO WALLOPS ISLAND, UH, THROUGH THE BAY OR THROUGH THE CANAL.
SO I JUST DON'T KNOW, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULD ADDRESS TO BE FORWARD LOOKING.
UM, UH, WE COULD TALK ABOUT THE FEDERAL JONES ACT, THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT, UH, TO AT LEAST IF THE OPPORTUNITY'S THERE THAT WE WANNA SUPPORT THE USE OF OUR WATER WASTE FOR TRANSPORTATION AS WELL, WHETHER IT BE, UH, COMMERCIAL OR PRIVATE OR WATER TAXIS OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
AND IT STILL GETS BACK TO BILLY JOE SAID, IF THERE'S NO WATER, YOU'RE NOT RUNNING A BOAT.
I DO REMEMBER THERE BEING, UM, A STRATEGY ABOUT BRINGING THINGS TO NASA, WALLOPS THE AEROSPACE THROUGH THE WATER.
THEY, THEY'RE ING FOR THAT RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK.
MARINE ACCESS THROUGH SLOOP GUT IS, UH, IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.
BUT I THINK THAT, SO THAT'S GREAT.
AND I, YEAH, AND I THINK FOR THIS PLAN, IT WOULDN'T HURT TO BROADEN THAT TO SAY OTHER, YOU KNOW, A C**K CREEK.
WE STILL IS AN ACTIVE COMMERCIAL, UH, SITE OR, UM, UH, SHOOT, I JUST DREW A BLANK, BUT I MEAN, ALL MY CREEKS ARE SILTED IN BY AROUND ME, BY THE WAY.
UM, BUT SOME OF THE ONES THAT HISTORICALLY HAD, UH, ACCESS IN THE PAST.
OKAY, THIS, UM, T SEVEN IS ABOUT SUPPORTING THE AEROSPACE SECTOR.
SO WE MAY ADD ANOTHER T TO, UH, ADDRESS MARINE ACCESS.
AND, UH, WELL, THERE, IT'S ALREADY IN THE ACTIONS FOR T SEVEN IN THE ACTIONS.
UM, IT TALKS ABOUT BARGE ACCESS.
UM, THERE'S ALSO LANGUAGE ABOUT THE AIRPORT IN ONE OF THESE, BUT SUPERVISOR PARKS, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OTHER, UH, OTHER WATER TRANSPORTATION BESIDES AEROSPACE.
SO WHAT, SO WHAT EVERYONE'S TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW IS HOW, IS, UH, HOW IS MARINE ACCESS SUPPORTING AEROSPACE? BUT, UH, BUT YOU'RE ALSO CONSIDERING OTHER COMMERCIAL INTERESTS AND EVEN, UH, AN EVEN PASSENGER.
SO WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT A, A FERRY THAT GOES IN BETWEEN AN C**K AND, UH, UM, AND ANGIER, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
ARE THERE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES? RIGHT.
AND THERE'S SUCH, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, UH, COMPANIES FLOATING IDEAS ABOUT FERRY SERVICE AND THINGS AROUND THE BAY BACK UP NORTH, SIMILAR TO WHAT IT USED TO BE CONSIDERING IF YOU CAN BUILD THE BOATS LOCALLY AND, AND HIGH SPEED.
SO I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME INTEREST OUT THERE.
AND I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT OUR PLAN COULD BE OPEN TO THAT, THAT SHOULD, SHOULD THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, THAT UM, THAT UH, UH, THAT WATERWAY INTER CITY ACCESS, IF YOU WILL, FROM BALTIMORE DOWN TO CHRIS FIELD, I BELIEVE WAS THE SOUTHERN MOST POINT BEING CONSIDERED.
CHRIS FIELD IS REALLY NOT TOO FAR FROM SSIS AND FROM OTHER POINTS IN AX.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE ANOTHER, ANOTHER STRATEGY TO, TO INCLUDE THAT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE OUT OF THE, I THINK THAT'D BE GREAT.
IT, IT, IT'S DEFINITELY POSSIBLE TO DO THAT.
I CAN GET, UH, GET WITH LEE AFTER THIS TO, TO CRAFT A NEW STRATEGY TO DO WITH, UM, FERRIES AND OTHER, YOU KNOW, WATERWAY TRANSPORTATION AND WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO YOU.
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ON TO C 12, CONTINUE SUPPORTING THE PRESERVATION AND ADAPTIVE REUSE OF THE MARYANNE SMITH CULTURAL ENRICHMENT CENTER.UM, THIS IS, THIS CAME, UM, STRAIGHT OUT OF, UM, PEOPLE ASKING FOR THIS, I BELIEVE.
UM, AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS, CONTINUE COORDINATING WITH E-S-V-B-A TO EXPAND BROADBAND AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS INFRASTRUCTURE, IMPROVE THE SERVICE AND ADDRESS CONNECTIVITY GAPS.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE TWO OR DISCUSSION
LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IF YOU GO HOME AND YOU THINK ABOUT SOMETHING AND WISH YOU HAD SAID IT OR, OR YOU YOU'RE LOOKING THROUGH THE MATERIALS AND WANT TO CHANGE SOMETHING, PLEASE GET THOSE COMMENTS TO, UM, SHANTE OR LEE AND WE CAN ALWAYS BRING IT BACK FOR MORE DISCUSSION.
I'M NOT GONNA GO IN AND CHANGE STRATEGIES WITHOUT YOU ALL KNOWING IT.
SO ANYTHING YOU COME UP WITH THAT YOU WANNA DISCUSS, AGAIN, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT AT A, AT A FUTURE WORK SESSION.
SO DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU, YOU MISSED YOUR CHANCE.
UM, WE'RE STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS, SO ANYTHING ELSE THAT COMES UP, PLEASE LET US KNOW.
AND, UM, ANYTHING FROM TONIGHT, PLEASE GET THAT TO STAFF BY NOVEMBER 6TH.
AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, THERE'LL BE MORE OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL.
SO DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU'VE MISSED THE BOAT ON ANYTHING.
UM, THE NEXT JOINT WORK SESSION WILL BE JANUARY 26TH, AND, UM, ON THE SCREEN YOU CAN SEE THE, THE SECTIONS WE'LL BE COVERING, UH, THAT NIGHT, AND THAT'S GONNA BE ANOTHER HEAVY LIFT.
UM, LEE, WHAT IS YOUR STRATEGY? TYPICALLY FOR, SINCE IT'S JANUARY, WE, WE MAY HAVE SOME WEATHER.
WHAT HAPPENS IF, IF WE NEED TO RESCHEDULE? TYPICALLY HOW DO YOU HANDLE THAT? BECAUSE THOSE EVENTS ARE JUST SO CLOSE TO WHATEVER DATE.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO STRATEGY PER SE OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, UH, IF WE GET A SENSE FOR, UH, UH, THAT IF, IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN, THEN WE WOULD CERTAINLY, UH, YOU KNOW, NOTIFY ALL OF THE UH, UH, BOARD MEMBERS AND PLANNING COMMISSIONERS IN TERMS OF POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVE DATES.
UM, THE REASON WHY WE PICKED THE, UH, THE, THE LAST TUESDAY OF THE MONTH IS BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION USUALLY HAS A WORK SESSION, BUT OKAY, THAT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE WE HAVE TO CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET TO IT BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T KNOW.
UM, BUT, UH, THAT'S GENERALLY HOW WE WOULD, WE WOULD HANDLE THAT, IS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE POSSIBILITY OF INCLEMENT WEATHER AND THEN TO, UH, UH, UH, ADVISE OR, OR, OR TO, TO TRY TO IDENTIFY ALTERNATIVE, UH, DATES AND THEN ADVISE THE COMMISSION AND THE BOARD OF THOSE DATES.
AND, AND, AND ONE OF THE ALTERNATIVE DATES COULD BE THE DAY AFTER BECAUSE UNDER THE BOARD'S RULES AND PROCEDURE, IF WE CANCEL PUBLIC MEETING BECAUSE OF INCLEMENT WEATHER, WE CAN HAVE IT THE FOLLOWING DAY WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH IT.
NOW THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED IT, HOPEFULLY IT WON'T HAPPEN.
ALRIGHT, WELL WITH THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION AND I WILL, OH, YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.
AND I'LL TURN IT BACK TO YOU ALL.
OKAY? UH, OKAY, I GET MOTION, I MEAN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.